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09-30-2006, 10:13 PM
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Boy, you're tough. While he can be knocked off his feet, and did cough up the puck in front of the net, I thought he showed a lot of smarts and ice presence, he backchecked responsibly, and I am pretty sure he led the team in shots on net. One in particular was a terrific one-timer in close that Lundquist made one of his best saves on. Though he is certainly not a banger, I predict he will end up being a prolific goal scorer, which is pretty much what the Bruins need.

I also thought Mara looked great, as did Alberts. And Boyes had a very strong game. And of course Savard -- what a good signing!
You call being the last man back on turnovers/ broken plays responsible?

Kessel had 2 shots on net all night. 1 in the 1st and 1 in the 3rd. Bergeron and Savard each had 5 shots.

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09-30-2006, 10:28 PM
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My Thoughts,

Savard was clearly our best player tonight. If he plays like that everynight he will lead our team in scoring.

Kessel looked like a highly skilled rookie, he will have his highs and lows.

Hoggan won a spot tonight, He worked hard evey shift and impressed me.

I think Stasny wins a spot on the 4th line, he just showed more today than Tenkrat. He also will get better with expierence, where as Tenkrat won't. Mowers, Stasny and Hoggan whould be a solid 4th line.

Timmy wins the starters job for opening night.

Our d was ok considering Chara,Jurcina were out. Alberts looks like a keeper, he played well tonight.

PK was brutal, also due to the Slovaks being out.

How about moving Muzz over to left wing and Kessel to Rw. Murray likes to be off to the left side on the PP, Kessel would be more comfortable on his natural shooting side. Its alot to put on a 18yr old to make the jump from collage and switch positions and learn to play on the off wing yet.


5 on 5 we were solid in the 2nd and 3rd.

Can't wait till Friday

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09-30-2006, 10:31 PM
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If Kessel stays, he stays on the first or second line. It is stupid to waste his offensive ability opening the bench door. Mara's penalties were deserved. The old stick between the legs play is a no-no in today's NHL. Kessel made some nice passes (witness Boyes' goal) and a quick release. Axelsson will be returned to the third line where he belongs. In standard PJ fashion, made a great move to split the D only to miss the net.

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09-30-2006, 10:33 PM
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My Thoughts,

Savard was clearly our best player tonight. If he plays like that everynight he will lead our team in scoring.

Kessel looked like a highly skilled rookie, he will have his highs and lows.

Hoggan won a spot tonight, He worked hard evey shift and impressed me.

I think Stasny wins a spot on the 4th line, he just showed more today than Tenkrat. He also will get better with expierence, where as Tenkrat won't. Mowers, Stasny and Hoggan whould be a solid 4th line.

Timmy wins the starters job for opening night.

Our d was ok considering Chara,Jurcina were out. Alberts looks like a keeper, he played well tonight.

PK was brutal, also due to the Slovaks being out.

How about moving Muzz over to left wing and Kessel to Rw. Murray likes to be off to the left side on the PP, Kessel would be more comfortable on his natural shooting side. Its alot to put on a 18yr old to make the jump from collage and switch positions and learn to play on the off wing yet.


5 on 5 we were solid in the 2nd and 3rd.

Can't wait till Friday

Tenkrat's speed drew calls all game. He sticks.

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09-30-2006, 10:41 PM
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Boy, you're tough. While he can be knocked off his feet, and did cough up the puck in front of the net, I thought he showed a lot of smarts and ice presence, he backchecked responsibly, and I am pretty sure he led the team in shots on net. One in particular was a terrific one-timer in close that Lundquist made one of his best saves on. Though he is certainly not a banger, I predict he will end up being a prolific goal scorer, which is pretty much what the Bruins need.

I also thought Mara looked great, as did Alberts. And Boyes had a very strong game. And of course Savard -- what a good signing!
I agree with you. Last year we had too many guys who could "grind" and not enough guys who could score. Kessel is what he is, a great scorer and playmaker. He doesn't have the all-around game that Bergeron has, but maybe he'll grow into it. I don't care if he doesn't hit anyone, not all scorers in this league do.

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09-30-2006, 10:55 PM
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when I was a kid Van Halen were legends- to see what has happened to David Lee Roth would be like going into a used car lot and having Phil Esposito come out and try and sell you a Ford Pinto. David Lee Roth should have made enough money to live on some remote island with one of Rod Stewart's former girl friends. Sad.
As ridiculous as Roth is these days, Eddie Van Halen is far worse. At least Roth is still enjoying his nutty life and can amuse you at times as he decends. Eddie is just bitter.
This is a band that was like Led Zeppelin from 1978-84 and 20+ years later are just a cartoon strip that can't even get into a museum in Cleveland. So sad.

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As ridiculous as Roth is these days, Eddie Van Halen is far worse. At least Roth is still enjoying his nutty life and can amuse you at times as he decends. Eddie is just bitter.
This is a band that was like Led Zeppelin from 1978-84 and 20+ years later are just a cartoon strip that can't even get into a museum in Cleveland. So sad.
Roth is brutal. Great backup band but he just makes you feel uncomfortable for him when he attempts to sing.

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09-30-2006, 11:23 PM
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Tenkrat's speed drew calls all game. He sticks.
He can stick around as the 13th or 14th forward, but Mowers, Hoggan, and Stastny are all better than he is.

Tenkrat is the forward version of Tanabe, world class speed, no brain, aversion to physical play. Not that he can't be a useful player once in a while, but he doesn't deserve a roster spot ahead of the 3 guys I mentioned.

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10-01-2006, 01:42 AM
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No doubt Boyes would be a great fit on a PP unit with Savvy and Bergy , but I don't think its such a great idea to put all our eggs in one basket.
That seemed to work pretty well for the Rangers on the PP today.

Maybe we should use a 5-forward power play like:

Kessel-Savard-Boyes
Bergeron-Murray


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10-01-2006, 05:53 AM
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Wow, how did I miss Van Halen posts??

Diamond Dave *IS* Van Halen and the Haggar years, to me anyways, ended the band as we knew and liked it.

Without Roth they are like Aerosmith without the great Steven Tyler. 'Nuff said.

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[QUOTE=Bruins4419;6620522]Be careful, you might be considered part of the Boynton fan club.

Yeah, I'm not a Boynton fan or supporter, but I'm not sure why there seems to be a need to belittle you for being one.

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10-01-2006, 07:52 AM
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Observations I had..

Bergeron looked good. He played his all around game just like Bergeron always does. He has a consisent game, and thats always a good thing to have.

Boyes played alright. He was hardly noticable until he scored. Hopefully he will pick it up and I have no doubt he will because he has the hockey smarts to be a great player.

Kessel can not play wing. He just looks very uncomfortable out there on it. He does shy away from the corners, but there isnt many players that are 18 that wouldnt. He has shown his skill and its elite for sure. I just think he will not suceed as well on the wing as he would at center. He needs to play center. He was out of position a few times because he natural plays like a center. Its why he is bumping into Bergeron a lot and why sometimes his point man was wide open on his side. He comes down too low because he is defending like a center. Its not his fault, some players are versatile and some arent. I just think he would best served to center either the third or fourth line. He needs to get comfortable first to the NHL and throwing him out there on a uncomfortable wing position against a teams best defenders does nothing for his confidence. Thats for sure. He will learn, and he came a hair's inch from pulling a sick move around 3 defenders on one shift. Sometimes he will pull that off and amaze us no doubt. Oh, and he will suprise alot of goalies because of his quick release.

Murray looked ok. He actually threw the body, which was very common of him after the Thornton trade last season. The quesiton is, do we want that Murray or the Murray that stayed high in the slot waiting for a Thornton pass. He has that type of playmaker in Savard now. Maybe he needs to change his game back?

Savard was wrecklessly good. Its the only way I can put it. He was the best player on the ice for the Bruins, but man he is like a wrecking ball out there, and I am not talking about just hitting people. He seriously reminded me how I use to play, falling down in the corners tripping bumping into everyone, yet somehow still controlled the puck. I think I have to get use to that, it just threw me off guard the way he played. I like his aggression though. Its needed.

Axy I love the guy he is always a hard worker and a good penalty killer. He just doesnt not play on a scoring line. He just couldnt hit the broad side of a barn unless some how the wind was blowing in that direction. He is another consistent player thats always dependable.

Prems impressed me. He really looked good and much faster than he did last year. He is a good third line center, but would be an excellent fourth line center I think. I say that only because in my mind I think I would move Kessel to center Donavan and Axey, just to add a little scoring threat to that line and let him play his natural position. Hoggan with Prems and Statsny/Mowers would make a very good and playable fourth line as well.

Donavan played well. He shyed a little more away from contact than I thought he would. I thought he would look like a more skilled Hoggan out there, but still he played well and happy about the signing. Almost had a nice goal. He has some wheels.

Statsny is going to be a good fourth line player and pk specialist. He will be nothing more than an average third liner or a good fourth liner. I still like his game, and has a little moxy to him. He stays I hope.

Tenkrat is Rico Fata. He has speed, he just doesnt do much with it. He is not a bad player, but I think he is the odd man out, though after scoring a goal he might have saved himself a spot on the team.

Mowers did his job, he provided energy and good defensive play, a typical fourth line player.

Hoggan I like his kid alot. He actually does have some puck skills and loves to throw the body. He is a great energy guy. I really hope he sticks with the team. He should after his preformance. He deserves it.

Stuart looked good. He jumped up into the play when needed and never got caught positionally. He will always be consistent and is a good second pairing defenseman.

Mara really got screwed. He played a good game except for penalties, two which are very questionable. He made a great pass for a sneakaway I'll use that mind numbing term Edward uses and showed good offensive instincts

Alberts is going to get better and again I am impressed with his play. His puck control needs a little work, but defensively he is soulnd and is a graet body checker.

Dempsey was ok. He does have some wheels, but I wouldnt play him alot he should be the 7th defenseman on this team. He whiffed on two one timers on the powerplay. He needs to hit those if he wants to stick around.

York, Brookbank please go away. They are too slow and York gets pushed around alot. They need to be scratched or sent to Providence.

Hannu he really has to come out of his net more or he will be a back up in no time. Its his biggest problem. He needs to play out of his net more. He gets beaten high a lot. He really needs to work on it. If I was PC I would put some feelers out there for the likes of Biron, Giugere and Tosokla. Just in case.

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10-01-2006, 07:57 AM
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So what was our overall preseason record?

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Has Hannu seemed better with his top shelf since last year???

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Has Hannu seemed better with his top shelf since last year???
No, Lou.

That's still where he's giving up the goals. All of the New Jersey shots beat him high, and it looked like they were going top-shelf every time.

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10-01-2006, 09:52 AM
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So what was our overall preseason record?
4 wins , 3 Losses 19 goals for, 17 goals against, 0-1-0 @ home, 4-2-0 on road


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No, Lou.

That's still where he's giving up the goals. All of the New Jersey shots beat him high, and it looked like they were going top-shelf every time.
My opinion, he is dropping too early so his glove is going down as the shot is rising. His flat butterfly is great for the low shots and screens but he is depending on it too much. As someone else said, he is also too deep in the net (especially when the puck is in the middle of the ice).

(on the plus side, they shoot there because they are just not going to beat him low that much.)

These are correctable issues, the talent is there, it is an issue of video analysis and practice, and more NHL experience. I expect his timing will improve as the season goes on, and that will help a lot.


It would also help if the best shooters on the other team didn't get a 3-count to set up free of defensive coverage.

The Bruins on the pk seemed to play a very tight box, too compressed and not challenging the points at all. Way too passive. The Rangers moved in closer and moved the puck extremely well. This puts more pressure on the goalie, who must continually move and set up again, and also forces him to stay deeper. I don't like the setup. I would rather a bigger gap in the middle with the goalie coming out a step more.

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My opinion, he is dropping too early so his glove is going down as the shot is rising. His flat butterfly is great for the low shots and screens but he is depending on it too much. As someone else said, he is also too deep in the net (especially when the puck is in the middle of the ice).

(on the plus side, they shoot there because they are just not going to beat him low that much.)

These are correctable issues, the talent is there, it is an issue of video analysis and practice, and more NHL experience. I expect his timing will improve as the season goes on, and that will help a lot.


It would also help if the best shooters on the other team didn't get a 3-count to set up free of defensive coverage.

The Bruins on the pk seemed to play a very tight box, too compressed and not challenging the points at all. Way too passive. The Rangers moved in closer and moved the puck extremely well. This puts more pressure on the goalie, who must continually move and set up again, and also forces him to stay deeper. I don't like the setup. I would rather a bigger gap in the middle with the goalie coming out a step more.
Bang-on analysis, Matt. I definitely agree. A lot of what I see reminds me of same of the same critiques I saw of Felix Potvin early in his career.

Hannu is what he is and there aren't going to be major style changes. Fans are going to have to come to grips with that and the fact that his athleticism and quickness are going to permit him to have success doing this, but at times there is going to be high adventure and he is going to give up some stoppable shots when the shooters have the skill to wire it to the top corners or up under the crossbar.

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Don't feel like reading the other 22 pages of this. But did anyone else notice that during warm-up that Statsny's jersey had him labeled as "Stasty"?

Also, new jumbotron is overwhelmingly big, but very beautiful.

P.S. Alberts sucked, hard.

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P.S. Alberts sucked, hard.


You're the only person I've seen say that.

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Yeah, I'm not a Boynton fan or supporter, but I'm not sure why there seems to be a need to belittle you for being one.
Thanks DC.

It's like I'm expected to hate Mara, which I don't. Just like I don't hate any other player that's been acquired in a trade. Do I still like the players that were traded (or signed elsewhere)? Yes, but I'm not going to or all of the time.

I haven't said anything bad about Mara either. I could understand a bit more if I was doing that. I hope he fulfills the Bruins and fans expectations, which I think he will.

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Thanks DC.

It's like I'm expected to hate Mara, which I don't. Just like I don't hate any other player that's been acquired in a trade. Do I still like the players that were traded (or signed elsewhere)? Yes, but I'm not going to or all of the time.

I haven't said anything bad about Mara either. I could understand a bit more if I was doing that. I hope he fulfills the Bruins and fans expectations, which I think he will.

Go Mara Go!
You've at least got Albert Andrews to cheer for, right?!

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For those of you who mentioned Murray had a good game I would like to know, aside from his lay up goal, what he did to impress.

I thought he was lethargic, didnt skate hard, did a lot of reaching instead of moving his feet and was piss poor defensively. I thought that playing with Savard (best player on the ice) he did virtually nothing to help the offense on ES. I really need to know what I missed.

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You've at least got Albert Andrews to cheer for, right?!
That's right , and Brads Stuart and Boyes... and the rest of the Bruins.

I'm a team gal first and foremost. Favorite players come second.

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No, Lou.

That's still where he's giving up the goals. All of the New Jersey shots beat him high, and it looked like they were going top-shelf every time.
I've been harping this about him since day 1.

He has that Hasek butterfly style but he goes down way too quick, counting on his agility to get back up square quickly, (one of the fastest I've ever seen).

Until he reads a shooter, (both figuratiuvely on the ice and from scouting reports), he's going to get burned by his tendancy to cover more ice percentagewise as his first option.

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