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01-01-2004, 07:46 PM
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Late round gem in the making

I haven't seen any WJC matches, but some of the posters in the WJC thread are raving about Korneev, whom they deem the #1 Russian defenceman. Looks like a steal in the 9th round, despite his size (5'11"). If he can eventually fill out to 200 pounds or so, over time, his upside is intriguing. Size-wise that would compare to Scott Niedermayer (6', 200).

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Jaroslav Halak as well who could turn out quite well.

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Jaroslav Halak as well who could turn out quite well.
Wow, they were raving about him too. I didn't know that he belongs to the Habs. It would be almost scandalous to pick up one of the better goalies in the tournament so late in the draft (9th rounder too!).

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Watch Tsn tommorow at 8:30, you will get to watch Halak.
He got 2 shutouts on the tournament so far.

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Watch Tsn tommorow at 8:30, you will get to watch Halak.
He got 2 shutouts on the tournament so far.
I wish it were that easy. I don't get TSN over here. I get the odd ESPN NHL game, usually a few days after it happened, and I usually know the score by then. For live hockey, I only get the Japanese league with a bunch of no-name players not related to Paul Kariya.

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I wish it were that easy. I don't get TSN over here. I get the odd ESPN NHL game, usually a few days after it happened, and I usually know the score by then. For live hockey, I only get the Japanese league with a bunch of no-name players not related to Paul Kariya.
Kariya's origin is japanese?

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Kariya's origin is japanese?
Japanese father, Canadian mother.

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Kariya's origin is japanese?
He's a Canadian of half Japanese descent, to my knowledge. Kariya is a common last name here. It has a meaning in Japanese: a temporary shelter.

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Why r u a habs fan if you live in Japan?

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Why r u a habs fan if you live in Japan?
Have a look at my name, which says it all. I am a Canadian expatriate from Montreal now living in Japan. Crossing the Pacific doesn't change my allegiance to the Canadiens.

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Korneev defense pairing is on the ice along with Ovechkin & Shkotov line , he's really the top d-men on that team .

Oh and as Komisarek8 said , Jaroslav Halak ( my avatar :p ) could turn up into a great late pick too .

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Halak

Unfortunately, after a great tournament, Halak blew the Quarter-final game for Slovakia today, by giving a soft goal at acritical juncture of the game..

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Korneev defense pairing is on the ice along with Ovechkin & Shkotov line , he's really the top d-men on that team .

Oh and as Komisarek8 said , Jaroslav Halak ( my avatar :p ) could turn up into a great late pick too .

Can he turn like Hasek who has been chosen late in draft ?

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Unfortunately, after a great tournament, Halak blew the Quarter-final game for Slovakia today, by giving a soft goal at acritical juncture of the game..
Yeah he was pettry weak today , 1 bad goal , 1 ''so-so'' goal and 2 goal hard to stop .

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Can he turn like Hasek who has been chosen late in draft ?
Who knows ?! It would be great .... his style is comparable to Khabibulin but Halak go down more often . Rollie Melanson could do wonder with Halak IMO .

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we could make this into a much more wide argument saying that our late picks of the last few years seem to be developing quite nicely, We could point a couple of names here and there;

Andrew Archer was a 5th round
Josef Balej was a third rounder
Tomas Plekanek was a third rounder
Michael Ryder was somwhere aroud the 6th round
Now Koroneev and Helak. I would say that our scouts made quite a good job in the past few years...

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I dont consider Plakenec and Balej ''late picks'' .

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Of the three drafts conducted by Savard, the 2003 is the most difficult to evaluate. Most of his picks were surprises, whereas players such as Higgins, Komisarek, Perezhogin, Plekanec, and Balej were at least talked about. I didn't expect him to pick Kastsitsyn, and I didn't know much about Urquhart and Lapierre. I had heard of Corey Locke because of his OHL stats. The real dark horse is Ryan O'Byrne. I've seen him play, but only after he was drafted. I wonder how they will make out as a group.

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we could make this into a much more wide argument saying that our late picks of the last few years seem to be developing quite nicely, We could point a couple of names here and there;

Andrew Archer was a 5th round
Josef Balej was a third rounder
Tomas Plekanek was a third rounder
Michael Ryder was somwhere aroud the 6th round
Now Koroneev and Helak. I would say that our scouts made quite a good job in the past few years...
andrei markov 162
michael ryder 216
andrew archer 203
andre deveaux 182
jonhathan ferland 212
mark flood 188
oksari kotpikari 217
+ korneev and halak ...

seem to good but if you look to the last years , there is not a lot of players that finally did it ;when they are on the junior leagues or playing for the ahl , some players are looking good , but they can't jump the last step.

Benoit Gratton i think is a good exemple; i am not convince that he has the tool from what i saw the games he played .Pirre Sévigny was dominating the AHL but never step higher

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Have a look at my name, which says it all. I am a Canadian expatriate from Montreal now living in Japan. Crossing the Pacific doesn't change my allegiance to the Canadiens.
I was in the exact same boat as you for two years. Lived in Yokohama and didn't see any Habs during that time. Thank God those two years were 2000 and 2001.

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I was in the exact same boat as you for two years. Lived in Yokohama and didn't see any Habs during that time. Thank God those two years were 2000 and 2001.
It's been almost 3 years for me. I plan to leave in Feb. 2005, which is when my current contract expires, to start making real money. Post-docs don't earn much, and I will have gotten by then the experience for which I came here. On another note, you seem to me like an SCTV fan, with a name like that...

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