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05-19-2013, 02:15 PM
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This guy has turned into the biggest Oilers troll this year. I'm not even 100% sure if he's an Oilers fan because he keeps making proposals which clearly make absolutely no sense for Edmonton.

Carlson had a down year this year and on top of that we don't need a PMD. We need another stay at home guy right now. Petry and Schultz move the puck around just fine.
Whatever, I make a proposal for a legit defenceman you have never witnessed before obviously, Carlson has a well rounded game defensively and offensively. John Carlson can play defence compared to Justin Schultz. It's a value for value trade.

I am a fan of Eberle believe it or not. I am excited to continue witnessing the Eberle-Hall show, incredible duo. In my opinion I believe we have three franchise players on offense in the lineup without him. I value Hall, RNH and Yakupov higher than Eberle. Paajarvi is a top six winger as well but at least we'll have three lines that can skate.


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05-19-2013, 02:46 PM
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This guy has turned into the biggest Oilers troll this year. I'm not even 100% sure if he's an Oilers fan because he keeps making proposals which clearly make absolutely no sense for Edmonton.

Carlson had a down year this year and on top of that we don't need a PMD. We need another stay at home guy right now. Petry and Schultz move the puck around just fine.
I don't agree, we need a power dman that can also move the puck. That is the type of dman that we need to play with Schultz. Of course he has to be left shooting also.

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05-19-2013, 03:13 PM
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Carlson is at least a #2 any way you slice it and would be Edmonton's best defenseman quite easily. He's far more valuable when his cap hit is factored in and the fact that he's a more complete player at his position.

Plus, Washington already has Ovechkin, Brouwer, Ward, Wilson and Fehr at RW.

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Plus, Washington already has Ovechkin, Brouwer, Ward, Wilson and Fehr at RW.
I'm sure Eberle doesn't automatically become a healthy scratch if inserted in the Caps lineup today.

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I'm sure Eberle doesn't automatically become a healthy scratch if inserted in the Caps lineup today.
Nobody is saying he'd be a healthy scratch for Washington. But RW is not an area of need, and upgrading from Brouwer to Eberle at 2RW certainly isn't worth losing Carlson. Right wing is unquestionably the deepest position on the Capitals. Hell, the depth at RW (both on the team an in the system as a hole) was part of why McPhee felt comfortable dealing Forsberg.

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I would rather have John Carlson, Good young Defensmen as value to many teams are at an premium right now. Small skilled forwards not so much!

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I would rather have John Carlson, Good young Defensmen as value to many teams are at an premium right now. Small skilled forwards not so much!
This is a ridiculously horrible blanket statement. I guess Crosby is worth less than Karlsson, good young d-men are worth more than small, skilled forwards. Give your head a shake

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Do caps fans really see Alzner as better than Carlson? From what i've seen, admitttedly not much this past season, Carlson was a better player than Alzner.

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Do caps fans really see Alzner as better than Carlson? From what i've seen, admitttedly not much this past season, Carlson was a better player than Alzner.
Alzner is a shut down defenseman who makes his partner better. He also plays the left side, a position where the Capitals aren't nearly as deep as on the right (Green, Carlson, Oleksy, Kundratek).

Alzner doesn't have the same upside as Carlson, but is clearly better at this stage in their careers.

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I'm sure Eberle doesn't automatically become a healthy scratch if inserted in the Caps lineup today.
And I'm sure the Oilers could find a spot for Patrick Kane but you'd hardly see them rush out to overpay for him would you now?

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And I'm sure the Oilers could find a spot for Patrick Kane but you'd hardly see them rush out to overpay for him would you now?
Depends on how much pure offense an organization wants. Minnesota.

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Think WAS has to include more before this deal becomes reality.

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Depends on how much pure offense an organization wants. Minnesota.
And even with a good top line and 2 2nd lines, Minnesota could not score goals to save their lives. They need to realize that they don't need more scorers, they need to can Yeo.

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Do caps fans really see Alzner as better than Carlson? From what i've seen, admitttedly not much this past season, Carlson was a better player than Alzner.
better? alzner is worth every bit of being the top 5 pick that he was. he plays a shutdown defensive game that is as good as most first pair veteran shutdown d do in this league and he's still a kid. because he is not a highlight maker either offensively or with big hits, he wont ever be particular expensive. lastly, he commands respect. he physically told lucic he was a cry baby for the entire league to see last playoffs and got away with it. he did the same thing to callahan this playoffs after he elbowed hillen.

carlson brings more skills. carlson and alzner are kids and a legit first pair. why would any team trade either of them? i am certain that the caps have no interest

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No way Edmonton is splitting up Petry-Smid. Easily one of the best shutdown pairings in the league. The only way Schultz ends up leaf frogging them in minutes is if we land one of the top 15 d-men in the league. No joke.
They are a terrible group at starting the transition. Smid should be no where near a top pairing because of how one-dimensional he is.

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Whatever, I make a proposal for a legit defenceman you have never witnessed before obviously, Carlson has a well rounded game defensively and offensively. John Carlson can play defence compared to Justin Schultz. It's a value for value trade.

I am a fan of Eberle believe it or not. I am excited to continue witnessing the Eberle-Hall show, incredible duo. In my opinion I believe we have three franchise players on offense in the lineup without him. I value Hall, RNH and Yakupov higher than Eberle. Paajarvi is a top six winger as well but at least we'll have three lines that can skate.
Stop insulting John Carlson.

The value on the deal is fair, the Caps just have no need for a RW right now. I wonder what their interest in Sam Gagner (65-pt scoring clip, young C) is if Ribeiro leaves. Obviously not at Eberle's value level but would Gagner+replacement D get it done for Caps to send one of Alzner/Carlson back?

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Stop insulting John Carlson.

The value on the deal is fair, the Caps just have no need for a RW right now. I wonder what their interest in Sam Gagner (65-pt scoring clip, young C) is if Ribeiro leaves. Obviously not at Eberle's value level but would Gagner+replacement D get it done for Caps to send one of Alzner/Carlson back?
nope. would love gagner in wsh even if ribeiro stays, but we're keeping alzner and carlson.

that said, i think green could be available.

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