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05-20-2013, 03:51 PM
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I want Diaby.

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I want Diaby.
He's ranked as, or near the top fighter in this draft.

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I want Diaby.
I want Diaby and Hayden. I don't care how much Timmins has to "reach" to get them. I'd rather he take them 34 and 36 then miss out on them later. I don't much care who he fills in the blanks with after that.

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I want Diaby and Hayden. I don't care how much Timmins has to "reach" to get them. I'd rather he take them 34 and 36 then miss out on them later. I don't much care who he fills in the blanks with after that.
I'm glad you're not the one making the picks for the Habs.

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I'm glad you're not the one making the picks for the Habs.
Don't worry. I NEVER get who I want in the draft, well, except for Galchenyuk, but that was a no-brainer.


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I want Diaby and Hayden. I don't care how much Timmins has to "reach" to get them. I'd rather he take them 34 and 36 then miss out on them later. I don't much care who he fills in the blanks with after that.
Hayden would be fine but Diaby would be a terrible pick early 2nd rd.

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Hayden would be fine but Diaby would be a terrible pick early 2nd rd.
Well, the way I look at where Diaby is concerned, is that everyone (me included) has been crying for a big, mean D-man who can clear the crease and back it up with hsi fists if called upon to do so since I don't know when.

Yes, we have Tinordi now, but he can't be on the ice all the time. Diaby seems to have the tools to be an NHLer although it will take him a few years to get there and it would appear that his upside is probably a 5th-6th dman, which is PERFECT. He's huge, and he's going to grow and will probably top out at around 240-250 lbs, and he can fight now although needs more experience and seasoning which he should acquire in the next few years. If he does, no one but NO ONE is going to want any part of him when he's 24-25 years old.

Plus, teams tend to put their meanest and most intimidating (and least talented) players on the 4th line which, as a 5th or 6th dman, are the guys Diaby will likely be facing. This leaves Tinordi to handle the shutdown job on the better players.

I figure there is not a chance in hell of Diaby being there when Habs pick at 55 and I don't want the players he's clearing out from the front of the net and pounding on to be Habs players while he's playing for Boston or Buffalo.

That's why I want Timmins to take Diaby at 34 or 36, because he won't be there at 55 and I shudder to think who will get him.

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=17733

NHL draft combine list
Strange, that list is the exact replica of the 2013 final prospect ranking from NHL Central Scouting.

I always tought invites to combine were taken from lists given by all 30 teams?

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Is there a rule I don't know about....but a notable admission for me would be Tyler Hill. No Matt Murphy is surprising for me too.
Those two not being on the NHL central scouting list may explain their omission...

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Diaby could easily go higher than most expect. His improvement over the season has been noticeable and obviously his style of play is coveted.

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Diaby could easily go higher than most expect. His improvement over the season has been noticeable and obviously his style of play is coveted.
this. Like McIlrath but not in the 1st rnd

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Well, the way I look at where Diaby is concerned, is that everyone (me included) has been crying for a big, mean D-man who can clear the crease and back it up with hsi fists if called upon to do so since I don't know when.

Yes, we have Tinordi now, but he can't be on the ice all the time. Diaby seems to have the tools to be an NHLer although it will take him a few years to get there and it would appear that his upside is probably a 5th-6th dman, which is PERFECT. He's huge, and he's going to grow and will probably top out at around 240-250 lbs, and he can fight now although needs more experience and seasoning which he should acquire in the next few years. If he does, no one but NO ONE is going to want any part of him when he's 24-25 years old.

Plus, teams tend to put their meanest and most intimidating (and least talented) players on the 4th line which, as a 5th or 6th dman, are the guys Diaby will likely be facing. This leaves Tinordi to handle the shutdown job on the better players.

I figure there is not a chance in hell of Diaby being there when Habs pick at 55 and I don't want the players he's clearing out from the front of the net and pounding on to be Habs players while he's playing for Boston or Buffalo.

That's why I want Timmins to take Diaby at 34 or 36, because he won't be there at 55 and I shudder to think who will get him.
Diaby won't be perfect for anything if he can't make the NHL. He is far from a lock, that's why you don't touch him in the 1st 2 rounds.

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Diaby could easily go higher than most expect. His improvement over the season has been noticeable and obviously his style of play is coveted.
This is exactly what I'm afraid of and I'm not sure taking him in the mid-30s is THAT MUCH of a "reach". The notorious "intangibles" he brings makes him highly desirable for a lot of teams imho. I'm sure Timmins will get us some gems with the #25 pick and the later picks. I REALLY don't want to miss out Diaby.

Edit: or Hayden ftm.

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Diaby won't be perfect for anything if he can't make the NHL. He is far from a lock, that's why you don't touch him in the 1st 2 rounds.
He's also projected to be a #5/6 dman, if not an extra defenceman. There are potential top line and top pairing players still likely available in the first two rounds, especially with our first three picks. You don't pick a Bordeleau when an Eriksson is available.

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He's also projected to be a #5/6 dman, if not an extra defenceman. There are potential top line and top pairing players still likely available in the first two rounds, especially with our first three picks. You don't pick a Bordeleau when an Eriksson is available.
Exactly. Drafting for need in the first 2 rounds, especially in a strong/deep draft like this year, is dumb.

Plus that #5-6 projection is a best case scenario, he could be a guy that never plays an NHL game because he has no hockey sense.

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Diaby won't be perfect for anything if he can't make the NHL. He is far from a lock, that's why you don't touch him in the 1st 2 rounds.
Quite honestly, isn't that true of any draft pick? I just happen to think the reward is worth the risk with Diaby.

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Quite honestly, isn't that true of any draft pick? I just happen to think the reward is worth the risk with Diaby.
This is true, cue the 2012 Entry Draft pick #33 - Sebastian Collberg - All fans expect he will automatically come from Sweden and join Galchenyuk and lead the Habs to the SC. Whoa the kid may not ever play also, our resident scout Grant has said Diaby won't be there in the 3rd round. Now I'll take his advice long before Carey Price whoops Moncton scout's advice on what his actual job really is scouting Pee-Wees hockey. So quit trying to mislead our fans with your misguided wisdom please.

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He's committed to Western Michigan, where Habs prospect Mike Cichy plays. It's a bit confusing because he was originally supposed to go to Michigan State, but he changed his mind.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/mike-mccarron/

In November 2012 he announced that he would play college hockey at Western Michigan instead of Michigan State

http://www.wmubroncos.com/ViewArticl...CLID=205819634
Hmm.. eliteprospects lied to me

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I want Diaby.
Me too. I think taking him with the first two second rounders would be too early though, and I can see a team falling in love with his tools and snagging him before the third second rounder.

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Quite honestly, isn't that true of any draft pick? I just happen to think the reward is worth the risk with Diaby.
What reward? He's not very good. If you want a goon, sign one in the summer. Plus why would you want a defenceman as an enforcer?

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What reward? He's not very good. If you want a goon, sign one in the summer. Plus why would you want a defenceman as an enforcer?
My god man obviously the defencemen are on the ice for longer shifts some like PK are on the ice for over 30 mins. in a game.

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What reward? He's not very good. If you want a goon, sign one in the summer. Plus why would you want a defenceman as an enforcer?
Thing is he's not Solely an enforcer, he happens to be pretty hard to play against and is adamant at playing against the opponent's best. His enforcing capabilities are just gravy to me. He's basically a slightly less mobile and effective Tinordi while being a better pugilist.

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Also just saw Marc Bergevin in the building. I understand Trevor Timmins and Ryan Jankowski are also here. #Habs #2013NHLDraft

The brass checking out London vs Portland.

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Also just saw Marc Bergevin in the building. I understand Trevor Timmins and Ryan Jankowski are also here. #Habs #2013NHLDraft

The brass checking out London vs Portland.
Bergevin probably looking at Seth Jones.

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What reward? He's not very good. If you want a goon, sign one in the summer. Plus why would you want a defenceman as an enforcer?
Don't want him for an enforcer, want him as a "policeman" ie. deterence. Remember Robinson? He played defence. And NO, I"m NOT suggesting Diaby is the next Robinson, so don't go there. What I am saying is that Diaby could be useful as a #5 or #6 Dman with a deterent factor mixed into his game.

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Also just saw Marc Bergevin in the building. I understand Trevor Timmins and Ryan Jankowski are also here. #Habs #2013NHLDraft

The brass checking out London vs Portland.
Plenty of mid-late 1st to early 2nd talent to watch.

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I agree with everything but isn't McCarron a RW ?
My hope would be for him to be converted to a LW. Though, having one of Gallagher, Kristo, or Collberg available for a LW should garner us a good one in return.

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