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05-16-2013, 08:46 PM
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I'm curious what that means to you.


I ask because various starters around the league have a bit of a range in their respective workloads. Miller's workload was quite heavy as a starter. He has averaged roughly 65 games the last 6 seasons and was generally in the top 10 in minutes played for goalies. I'm assuming thats not what you would expect from Enroth if he was made the starter. Or is it?
I mean anything the starter workload range, whether it's a 1a/1b split, or anything more. The point is, goalies need some form of consistency (something enroth has rarely ever had) to show if they can cut it or not.

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He looked great against Canada today, and it was a much better Canadian team than usual. First goal was a pretty perfect tip, and the 2nd was a point blank shot by Giroux that he'd probably like back, but wasn't a terrible goal by any means. The only shootout attempt he let in was a five-hole shot by Eberle.

Overall had 40 saves on 42 shots, 3/4 in the shootout.

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Enroth is going to be the perfect part for a 1a/1b tandem in net for us next year.

Enroth will probably never win the Vezina-trophy, but he has the tools to become a NHL starting goalie.

We're rebuilding. Let Miller walk and let"s see what our goalies in the minors can do between the pipes @ NhL level next year.

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05-17-2013, 04:19 PM
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My belief system:

1. Enroth is probably better than his record / stats under Ruff the past couple season show.

2. Enroth is probably not as good as his hot stint post-Ruff under Rolston shows.

3. Any / all of the numbers cited in the linked article need to be taken with grain of salt as opponent matchup / QoC, etc., factors a little bit into the numbers when comparing backup to starter on the same team.

4. At times, Enroth's 5-hole closes slower than the Octomom's.

5. We need to see a 50-55+ game single-season from Enroth to have a firmer opinion of his performance trajectory and asymptote.

6. None of the above probably matters much at all for the next Sabres season, in terms of Sabres team performance & final standings, etc.,

7. Enroth will be qualified by Buffalo and play for the Sabres next season. How much, if any, time he'll split with Miller and/or Hackett, I have no idea. He's obviously earned his chance to be given a majority role (50-55+ games) if Miller is moved.

8. I do not expect BUF to acquire another UFA vet backup, or trade for a goalie, unless Miller is moved in the offseason. And if Miller is traded, I still think it unlikely (but more possible).

9. Leggio will not be retained as a UFA by BUF, and should not be counted in Sabres / Amerks plans for '13-14. (And I don't understand why some posters believe so. I just don't see it that way.)

10. Sabres rebuild eventually emerges with Makarov or Hackett as the starter.
I agree with the first nine, hard to argue with ten.

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05-17-2013, 04:21 PM
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Yep. If he's good, gold! If he's not... draft gold! Hell, if they ship out the usual suspects this summer, he could be good and they're not going to score enough to win most nights as it is.
This is what I was kind of getting at. I think he could be legitimately good and if Miller goes, he should get the shot or at least the bulk over Hackett/Leggio.

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05-17-2013, 04:55 PM
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He was also incredible under Ruff, before he stunk up the joint. I think we just stumbled upon the meaning of the word "inconsistent," which is a polite way of saying "he sucks."
That's a pretty bold and ignorant statement considering the sample size we are using to judge him.

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05-19-2013, 05:37 PM
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Goaltender of the tournament.

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05-19-2013, 05:45 PM
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Goaltender of the tournament.
consistent starts + good team = consistently good goalie play

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That's a pretty bold and ignorant statement considering the sample size we are using to judge him.
"Sucks" was a touch too harsh. Perhaps "does not inspire confidence" is closer to what I mean.

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05-19-2013, 08:18 PM
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I am fine with an Enroth/ Hackett/ Leggio 1A/1B/1C setup next year and see what happens where both play 35 games...the remanding depends n injuries and what goalie is hot. Hackett gets some starts but because he has options left he does more in Rochester but they have got to see what he has before the end of the year.

Leggio/Enroth is one they could trade.

If by some unusual chance Miller is resigned to an extension then Enroth is dealt for something at the draft.

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I think Enroth has Now earned a spot on Sweden Olympic roster. Barring an injury or major collapse early next season.

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I think Enroth has Now earned a spot on Sweden Olympic roster. Barring an injury or major collapse early next season.
Meh. I'd rather he stay around Buffalo than fly to the other side of the world to get splinters behind Lundqvist.

Also, I think Fasth and Lehner, among others, might have something to say about Enroth being on the team.

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Meh. I'd rather he stay around Buffalo than fly to the other side of the world to get splinters behind Lundqvist.

Also, I think Fasth and Lehner, among others, might have something to say about Enroth being on the team.
I'd rather he be getting splinters and practicing with a superior squad, experiencing something that is probably a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Not only do I just not want to begrudge him the experience, I think it's likely to be beneficial in some way. There's always the chance the King gets hurt, but that aside he'd get some time in exhibitions.

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About as good as making Noronen a #1

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As others have said it's a win win making him the starter next season. If he proves that he is a legit starter then great. If not then we should have a solid pick next season. From there we can make it a competition between Hackett and Makarov.

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No denying Enroth played really well at the end of the season and in the WCs. I'd feel comfortable giving him a shot as a starter. If he stinks, then hello Ekblad, welcome to Buffalo. If he's any good, then great, we found Miller's successor.

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About as good as making Noronen a #1
...harsh.

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I love how some people like to overreact to one tournament.

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I love how some people like to overreact to one tournament.
Hey, nobody expected the US to compete

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I may stand alone, but I'd like Enroth to be the #1 next year. Hackett #2.

I think he's taken his licks and earned it.

Had one incredibly horrid stretch, but his ability to bounce back from that is admirable.

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Best goalie masks in the organization:

1. Enroth
2. Leggio
3. Hackett
4. Miller

Solved. Looks like it is time to trade Miller.

@artofdave: Matt Hackett, Buffalo Sabres, 2013 Hackett´s new #Sabres mask http://fb.me/VhMAHK20

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About as good as making Noronen a #1
Right, except for the fact that Enroth has played well at the NHL level over the course of multiple seasons and Nornonen never did.

Other than that you're spot on.

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I believe Enroth can excel as a starter. We've seen how good he was in his last few starts of the season (like the shutout against Philly where he was outstanding) and I think we can depend on him.

But, of course on these boards no one gives any player on this team a chance. *sigh*

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I believe Enroth can excel as a starter. We've seen how good he was in his last few starts of the season (like the shutout against Philly where he was outstanding) and I think we can depend on him.

But, of course on these boards no one gives any player on this team a chance. *sigh*
Ummm....huh? Did you not see Enroth last year? Dude's 5-hole was bigger than Octomom's or Michelle Duggar's. Plus, he was VERY susceptible to a quality-placed shot.

It's not that we're not willing to give him a chance. If Miller is traded, most of us are perfectly willing to give him a chance.

There's just a bunch of us that doubt that he can handle a true starter's load. And it's not an unfounded doubt. At all.


We've seen how good AND how bad he can be.

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