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Does anybody else feel the Jack Adams Award is meaningless?

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05-17-2013, 07:38 PM
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Does anybody else feel the Jack Adams Award is meaningless?

Every year, it's basically handed to a random coach who turned a bad team into a decent/good one.

Let's get down to basics: only one coach ever won more than one Jack Adams with the same team: Jacques Demers.

Scotty Bowman, who was basically the Wayne Gretzky of coaching won the award twice in 24 coaching years (if we discard seasons where the award didn't exist). Are we to assume he wasn't the best coach in the NHL in any other season?

The purpose of the award makes little sense. Even great teams can have great coaching, but they are overlooked most of the time.

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I agree with you 100%.

Another example - Mike Babcock is often considered the best coach in the game today, he's kept a job on a franchise with very high expectations, and he was the guy Canada selected as head coach in the last Olympics. But he never gets close to winning, since Detroit never performs above expectations, because the expectations for them are already high. Ironically, he'd probably have a better chance of winning the award if he were fired from Detroit and picked up by another team.

The Jack Adams, at least in modern times, goes to the coach of the "most surprising" team.

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I agree with you 100%.

Another example - Mike Babcock is often considered the best coach in the game today, he's kept a job on a franchise with very high expectations, and he was the guy Canada selected as head coach in the last Olympics. But he never gets close to winning, since Detroit never performs above expectations, because the expectations for them are already high. Ironically, he'd probably have a better chance of winning the award if he were fired from Detroit and picked up by another team.

The Jack Adams, at least in modern times, goes to the coach of the "most surprising" team.
It's either 'most surprising' or 'record breaking'. It took Scotty Bowman winning 62 games (most in the history of the game) with the Wings to win a Jack Adams with Detroit.

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In a 30 teams league, taking the best coach for a year without taking account of the playoff, seem very difficult to me.

Much easier to have the most improved team that we can give credit to a coach change if we want or a record breaking team (like Chigago this year) / supposely mediocre team making the playoff like ottawa with their injury.

Hard to see, not have the same coach winning year after year after year until a better coach came in the league (like babcock every year) if the trophy was really to the best coach, if such a think exist.

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... Nice. The Award that Don Cherry calls a notification that your about to be
fired. Spells doom. Im sure Jolly Jack got a chuckle out of that one. In Hell....

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The three nominees this year represented the three traditional categories the winners usually come from:

a) coach of team that improved a lot in the standings over previous season (Boudreau)

b) coach of team that persevered despite injuries to one or more key players (MacLean)

c) coach who has been good for years, but has never won the award (or hasn't won it in over a decade) (Quenneville)


The award is voted on by the broadcasters, and not the writers who vote on all the other awards.

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It's an alright award. But yeah, you can't really win it twice. Demers did, but even then he won it because in each year Detroit's points went up significantly. There are years where a coach wins it because it is impossible for them not to. 1977 and 1996 Bowman wins it just because the team had such a gaudy record. I guess you could say the same for Sather in 1986. Cherry won it in 1976 because the team got shaken up after the Esposito trade and they actually improved from 1975 to 1976. Which is something no one would have thought. I mean, were there other times Al Arbour was the best coach in the game other than 1979? For sure. A lot of people point to Pat Burns as a guy who should be in the HHOF just because he won this three times. However, you have to be fired from a team in order to win it with a new team.

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The three nominees this year represented the three traditional categories the winners usually come from:

a) coach of team that improved a lot in the standings over previous season (Boudreau)
Ridiculous nomination, as evidenced by the Wings/Ducks series. He was vastly outcoached by Babcock.

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b) coach of team that persevered despite injuries to one or more key players (MacLean)

c) coach who has been good for years, but has never won the award (or hasn't won it in over a decade) (Quenneville)
Two of the league's better coaches, both certainly worthy nominees. One of these two will win it; Ottawa made the playoffs despite three key injuries and Chicago had a massive season... hard to say. Quenneville has the history and reputation, so he's probably more likely.

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Bumping this because a thought popped in my head so I looked it up. Only 3 Jack Adams winners won the Cup the same season since its inception in 1974. '04 Tortorella, '77 Bowman, and '74 Shero. Very few even go deep in the playoffs.

Yes, it's a regular season award like all the others, but it's interesting that it's so few coaches going on to win that spring. The other main regular season awards have a lot more cup wins.

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