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05-11-2013, 01:05 PM
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I think "strategy" is being overly generous when referring to our PP.

It is also why I hope Sydor is getting fitted with cement boots and dropped in the damned river.
actually strategy is the common term, I believe the wild are currently using the umbrella strategy which is not working since we like to take a lot of point shots which get blocked, and then our one timers miss the net.

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05-11-2013, 01:18 PM
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I was being facetious.

I was trying to make a bad joke on how the people who coordinate our PP have their heads up their arses.

It is also way too obvious what they are trying to do, and it would seem that any high school hockey team could shut them down because of it.

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RE: Cammaratta



As a later round pick, why not? Cammaratta can flat out score. Watch the kid next season with the Gophers and you'll see what I mean. I may be a little biased as I've been watching him since he was Bantam age (he played with my son in the Advanced 15 camp a few years back).

His style of play is similar to Kane's.

I think he struggles mightily next year. He won't be able to get away with the same things he did in Waterloo, most notably cheating on his assignments and bouts of uninspired play.

He's no Rocco Grimaldi, he's no John Gaudreau; he doesn't skate well enough for his size (at this point) to be able to evade older, stronger, smarter competition; hockey sense alone (although he does think the game well) won't work at the NCAA level.

FWIW, when I saw him in Fargo for the Clark Cup playoffs he was a complete non-factor. Gabe Guertler will have more of an impact next year imo.


Just based off who I've seen and my own rankings, there are other guys I'd rather take late on a flier.

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What exactly is flier? I hear the term a lot with drafting and prospects.

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What exactly is flier? I hear the term a lot with drafting and prospects.

"taking a flier" basically means using a pick to take a player who is a bit of a project, but there is perceived upside there. Usually guys taken in the later rounds are those types of players. If he doesn't pan out, whatever- it was only a 7th round pick; but if they pan out then the scouting staff look brilliant.

Low risk, possible reward. Tyler Graovac may be an example of this; hampered by injuries that year, but he's got a nice skillset/tangibles.

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Hoping we are able to get our hands on a 1st so that Risto could be added to our pool..

Tho' i dont see it happening at all..

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Hoping we are able to get our hands on a 1st so that Risto could be added to our pool..

Tho' i dont see it happening at all..

Risto might be going top 10, maybe top 15. I don't think we would be trading the assets required to get that kind of a pick.

The one thing that will make me pay attention this draft given we don't have our 1st any more is the whole draft is being done in one day, all 7 rounds of it.

So we might be some movement back into bottom 10 of the first round if we can find a dance partner and the deal is right.

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"taking a flier" basically means using a pick to take a player who is a bit of a project, but there is perceived upside there. Usually guys taken in the later rounds are those types of players. If he doesn't pan out, whatever- it was only a 7th round pick; but if they pan out then the scouting staff look brilliant.

Low risk, possible reward. Tyler Graovac may be an example of this; hampered by injuries that year, but he's got a nice skillset/tangibles.
Technically, it would be a high risk/high reward pick but with an extremely low valued asset.

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Risto might be going top 10, maybe top 15. I don't think we would be trading the assets required to get that kind of a pick.

The one thing that will make me pay attention this draft given we don't have our 1st any more is the whole draft is being done in one day, all 7 rounds of it.

So we might be some movement back into bottom 10 of the first round if we can find a dance partner and the deal is right.
We do have two second round picks to play with and with the depth there is in the draft, some teams might not mind dropping from the first to get our two seconds.

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We do have two second round picks to play with and with the depth there is in the draft, some teams might not mind dropping from the first to get our two seconds.
What are the picks we hold in all the rounds? Some where conditionals and im too depressed about the season to find out.

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What are the picks we hold in all the rounds? Some where conditionals and im too depressed about the season to find out.
Here you go.

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We do have two second round picks to play with and with the depth there is in the draft, some teams might not mind dropping from the first to get our two seconds.
As of now, we only have our 2nd rounder, we do have two 3rd rounders though.

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As of now, we only have our 2nd rounder, we do have two 3rd rounders though.
And the two third rounders are New Jersey's 3rd (#70) from the Zidlicky trade (received it conditionally when he played in 75% of the first two rounds in 2012 and the Devils advanced to at least the ECF)* and San Jose's third (TBD) from the James Sheppard trade (we all remember that trade). Minnesota's third went to Philadelphia for Darroll Powe and has been traded a couple more times to boot.

*It is funny to read now how the Devils making the Eastern Conference Finals with Marek Zidlicky can't help Minnesota's chances to get Parise. Sorry New Jersey fans who are obviously reading this.

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Whoops my bad.

But still, CF doesn't mind pulling off the trigger and we could see some movement up to get another 2nd.

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So who in the 2nd round would be interesting and help us out the most? Any ideas Dan or FRB? You guys seem to know the most when it comes to this subject.

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If we are lucky we could end up with Zadorov.. And that is a big IF

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Ian mcCoshen in the 2nd? maybe we can get tom vannelli in the 3rd round. lets stock up on defense.


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My favorite Finn of the draft:


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Yes, Lehkonen is really small, Barkov is close to NHL ready.

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Really small? Smallish maybe but not really small. 17 years of age, 5'11'' and 161 lbs.

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3rd round (hopefully)

oliver bjorkstrand. portland winterhawks
will butcher usa-18 or keaton thompson

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If we are lucky we could end up with Zadorov.. And that is a big IF
My only guess as to how we end up with Zadarov is if he falls to 20's and we trade up.

Because all i've seen is he's going top 15

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3rd round (hopefully)

oliver bjorkstrand. portland winterhawks
will butcher usa-18 or keaton thompson
Bjorkstrand I think is going to be a mid-2nd round pick.

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Yes, Lehkonen is really small, Barkov is close to NHL ready.
Really small? He's close to Granlund's size, possibly even a little bigger. He's also a good skater and good at scoring goals. Anyway, he'll probably go on the 2nd or 3rd round. I've heard scouts have very differing opinions of him, which makes it very difficult to predict when he's going to get picked. If someone thinks highly enough of him, he could even be a late 1st round pick. His concussion issues from this season and his overall lack of self-preservation instinct on the ice bring even more insecurity on his status in the draft. The potential for a 2nd line scoring winger is there, but he needs to bulk up a hell of a lot if he's going to play the way he does with that smallish frame of his.


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