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05-23-2013, 03:13 PM
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Sorry I wasnt clear. If they aren't sold on Barkov or drouin at 4 (whichever is left) I'd rather the preds trade down than pick lindholm or nichuskin with the pick. In addition to the usual Russian risk, I'm worried nichuskin's game doesn't translate. He is big and strong and fast but I'm worried he won't be a prolific scorer or elite passer- the upside is there but I don't like the risk on him.

I wouldn't be any more worried about nichushkins game translating that any other top picks. You never know with any of these guys until they hit the NHL. Nichushkin could be amazing or a flop. Same with Mack, drouin, barkov,

I just really hope the forward we leave this draft with is Lindholm. I think barkov, drouin, Mack, and nichushkin all have way more potential than him. Just my two cents. I see an A level of forward prospects which is drouin, Mack, barkov and nichushkin.
Then I see a B level which is monahan, Lindholm, lazar

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05-23-2013, 03:29 PM
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I wouldn't be any more worried about nichushkins game translating that any other top picks. You never know with any of these guys until they hit the NHL. Nichushkin could be amazing or a flop. Same with Mack, drouin, barkov,

I just really hope the forward we leave this draft with is Lindholm. I think barkov, drouin, Mack, and nichushkin all have way more potential than him. Just my two cents. I see an A level of forward prospects which is drouin, Mack, barkov and nichushkin.
Then I see a B level which is monahan, Lindholm, lazar
Im confused.. you want us to get the "B" level player rather than the "A" level??

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05-23-2013, 03:32 PM
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Im confused.. you want us to get the "B" level player rather than the "A" level??
Think maple meant dont leave with?

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Think maple meant dont leave with?
That's exactly what I meant! Hahaha
I get typing so quick and forget what I'm saying sometimes lol.

I definitely want the A level, not B!
Too funny lol.

But I still think the fact that nichushkin has gotten out of his khl contract shouldn't change anything, barkov is still the way to go, drouin and Mack will still be top three as well I believe.

How did he get out of contract anyhow?? I know we weren't to happy when radulov did that to us, but I don't know all the details about this either. Barkov has better all round game I think. Only thing nichushkin may be better in us skating.


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At this point in time I'm ok with either Drouin or Barkov. I think both are going to have very good NHL careers. If I had to pick one, I'd go with Barkov just because he's a natural center but both can play that position. I don't really have much to contribute that already hasn't been said.

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05-24-2013, 01:50 PM
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At this point in time I'm ok with either Drouin or Barkov. I think both are going to have very good NHL careers. If I had to pick one, I'd go with Barkov just because he's a natural center but both can play that position. I don't really have much to contribute that already hasn't been said.
por que ? in the top 5 ... Nichushkin & Drouin are the pure wingers ... MacKinnon & Barkov are the pure Center men

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There is Jones plus four pretty safe bet forwards if in fact Nichushkin does come over. The big question that gets answered in about five weeks is where do the three teams ahead of us rank them so we then get whomever is highest remaining on our board.

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There is Jones plus four pretty safe bet forwards if in fact Nichushkin does come over. The big question that gets answered in about five weeks is where do the three teams ahead of us rank them so we then get whomever is highest remaining on our board.
Based on poile and his history. I think he ranks then like this,

1. Mackinnon
2. Barkov
3. Drouin
4. Nich

Safest picks always with this man, but really, he can't go wrong with any, I'm only leary of nichushkin because be is already dishonouring contracts a la radulov. But the kid is an amazing hockey player.

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Based on poile and his history. I think he ranks then like this,

1. Mackinnon
2. Barkov
3. Drouin
4. Nich

Safest picks always with this man, but really, he can't go wrong with any, I'm only leary of nichushkin because be is already dishonouring contracts a la radulov. But the kid is an amazing hockey player.
Or Malkin.

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Or Malkin.
Did not know this, malkin broke his khl contract to come to North America?

Now that I think of it, don't know if the khl was around then because I don't care about that league whatsoever, but I know Sergei fedorov 'defected' to come here. Was that also same idea as what nichushkin is doing?!

So you think there is zero risk of the flight factor or leaving the NHL after a few seasons and going back to Russia like radulov?! I guess you can never tell, hindsight is 20/20.

Russians just freak me out because of damn radulov!
We have such a high pick in such a top end talented draft, just don't want is getting screwed!!

I do really like nichushkins game though. But I think I still like barkov more. Still curious who Tampa and Florida take after avs take jones.

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The KHL didn't exist when Malkin was around but if memory serves me he broke his contract with his Russian team at the time to come here to the NHL. If it wasn't him it may have been Ovie. Peter Stastny defected years ago and was the first of his kind.

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Malkin definitely slipped out of Russia under questionable circumstances.. Im thinking he was in Finland for a junior tournament or something and didnt fly home with his team and instead came to North America. It was a big deal at the time.

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Malkin definitely slipped out of Russia under questionable circumstances.. Im thinking he was in Finland for a junior tournament or something and didnt fly home with his team and instead came to North America. It was a big deal at the time.
Yeah fedorov did same thing.

My question is, should we be concerned whatsoever about nichushkin?!

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Yeah fedorov did same thing.

My question is, should we be concerned whatsoever about nichushkin?!
My favorite Russian did the same thing ... Alexander Mogilny

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05-25-2013, 12:27 AM
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Yeah fedorov did same thing.

My question is, should we be concerned whatsoever about nichushkin?!
Fedorov had to defect from the Soviet Union, slightly different in magnitude from walking out on a contract.

Nichushkin has stated his desire to play in North America this year. If Poile really wants him, he'll almost assuredly be available. If he isn't, that means Tampa Bay took him, and we get MacKinnon, Drouin, or Barkov. We're in a great situation regardless.

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Fedorov had to defect from the Soviet Union, slightly different in magnitude from walking out on a contract.

Nichushkin has stated his desire to play in North America this year. If Poile really wants him, he'll almost assuredly be available. If he isn't, that means Tampa Bay took him, and we get MacKinnon, Drouin, or Barkov. We're in a great situation regardless.
Yeah, Tampa could throw a wrench in things if they picked nich instead of Drouin. That would be a really tough choice to make between Barkov and Drouin. We need a #1 center so badly, and Barkov looks like he could potentially be a really good player, but Drouin has some of the flashiest highlights around. If this scenario goes down you know we're going to be comparing these two players forever.

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Nichushkin might be out of his contract and he might want to come over right away... and he will probably do that and things will be good.

But what happens in 2, 3, 4... years from now? Radulov was over here for 6 years before running home.

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Josh Cooper of the Tennessean was on Edmonton radio today and said he thinks the Preds may be scared off Barkov because of his shoulder injury.

http://www.630ched.com/Podcasts/Episodes.aspx?PID=2254

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Josh Cooper of the Tennessean was on Edmonton radio today and said he thinks the Preds may be scared off Barkov because of his shoulder injury.

http://www.630ched.com/Podcasts/Episodes.aspx?PID=2254
more gamesmanship.

no way does anyone with actual knowledge of the Preds draft board let something like that leak if its true. Could just as well be that they really want barkov and hope by talking him down he will still be there at 4

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False rumours again... Barkov is in full practice condition at summer( most likely beginning of the summer) confirmed by father Barkov couple weeks ago and his team doctor who actually took care of the injury. I don't know where these guys pull their informations but they know nothing. It's obvious that preds like him alot and is strong candidate at their pick.

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This is nuts!
Barkov, mackinnon, drouin, nichushkin are all going to be snipers in the NHL IMO, and we are going to get one of them!!!

This could be out best draft for the first round ever!!!

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Josh Cooper of the Tennessean was on Edmonton radio today and said he thinks the Preds may be scared off Barkov because of his shoulder injury.

http://www.630ched.com/Podcasts/Episodes.aspx?PID=2254
Cooper got his so-called information on Barkov's injury from Igor Eronko on Twiiter. Eronko's information was outdated and even false on some details. I have to say that all of this is highly unprofessional, but I guess it can be expected when dealing with a Euro prospect and you have limited resources. I'm sure the Preds have asked for Barkov's x-rays (Tampa did) so at least they know the truth even if reporters don't.

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Nichushkin might be out of his contract and he might want to come over right away... and he will probably do that and things will be good.

But what happens in 2, 3, 4... years from now? Radulov was over here for 6 years before running home.
Radulov was known for issues prior to the draft. He slid down the draft board for a reason.

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Yeah, Tampa could throw a wrench in things if they picked nich instead of Drouin. That would be a really tough choice to make between Barkov and Drouin. We need a #1 center so badly, and Barkov looks like he could potentially be a really good player, but Drouin has some of the flashiest highlights around. If this scenario goes down you know we're going to be comparing these two players forever.
If that's the case, we better be sprinting up to the podium to take Drouin.

This isn't like the NFL/NBA draft where you can plug and play a player. These kids probably won't be here for 2-3 years, and then probably not in their prime for another 2 or so. Who knows what the team will look like at that point. Center might be a strength, Wing might be a weakness. Who knows.

Got to take BPA.

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Radulov was known for issues prior to the draft. He slid down the draft board for a reason.
Yup and our scouts still overlooked it

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