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Indo-EDGE jerseys.. what's the problem with them?

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05-23-2013, 03:51 PM
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Indo-EDGE jerseys.. what's the problem with them?

Indo-EDGE jerseys, or Reebok EDGE Authentic jerseys made in Indonesia. I don't know why everybody has a problem with them. Care to explain why exactly?

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Reebok Edges are made in Canada, and Indo-Edges are made in Indonesia. They have a big drop in quality and aren't that much cheaper. Most players wear the Edge 2.0s, which aren't even available at retail either.

I'm sure others here have better jersey knowledge and can talk more about it.

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I'm thinking of buying an authentic, and the only ones available are indo-edges. I wonder why 2.0's aren't available at retail?

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I'm thinking of buying an authentic, and the only ones available are indo-edges. I wonder why 2.0's aren't available at retail?
I wish I could tell you. The 2.0s are similar to the 1.0s, but the arms and front are made of airknit and are cut a little baggier, and the 1.0s have a better version of the fabric the Premier replicas are made of.

Supposedly there is talk of making the 2.0s available soon. I think the Indo-Edges are made of airknit, but it's thinner than the game weight.

If you're not a stickler, the Indo-Edges are fine. But I can understand why many wouldn't like them.

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Well, you can pay more money for a higher quality garment made by fairly compensated workers, or you can pay slightly less for something made by an indentured teenage factory worker in Java.

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I'll bite.

- The fight strap itself is extremely thin, and would likely tear apart if it were to be subjected to actual game use. Think of how much force an actual fight strap can withstand.

- The attachment of the strap is white (not the color of the jersey, just always white) with jersey-colored stitching. The stitching itself looks like it was done by a blind man with muscle tremors. The twill of the attachment itself is also extremely thin.

- The Reebok wordmark logo on the back of the neck isn't even sewn down. The $0.000004 it would take to stitch that down was apparently too much of an effort.

- The material of the entire jersey is somewhere between 550 (old airknit replica) and 6100 (old airknit authentic). It's not the same, it's not better, it's just...different. And yes, it's worse.

- It's the same price as an actual regular authentic would be.

- It was advertised originally by Reebok as "on-ice authentic". It's not. No player has ever worn an Indo-Edge on the ice, because it wouldn't last the game. Players still wear Edge 1.0s; Martin Erat's gold Nashville jerseys actually had to be custom-made by hand since Reebok only made the 2.0 for the Predators post-switch.

That's my problem. Reebok has basically assumed that we're all a bunch of idiots, and that teams will buy anything since they're a bunch of idiots as well. Frankly, **** Reebok. I'm tired of their ****. They created something unfit for actual use, then lied about it. Is it a middle price point? Pfft, c'mon. This is Reebok we're talking about. There's people to gouge.

Reebok has claimed for years that they take bootlegging and counterfeiting seriously, then try to charge $250-300 for a jersey that's, at best, marginally better than a bootleg. It's damn near criminal.

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Wow, had no idea the Reebok "Authentics" had gotten this bad, it's pretty ridiculous.

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Here is some pictures of the jersey. They make mistakes similar to a fake jersey. Guess they haven't worked out all the issues yet.

https://www.facebook.com/AntiIndoEdge/photos_stream

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Well, you can pay more money for a higher quality garment made by fairly compensated workers, or you can pay slightly less for something made by an indentured teenage factory worker in Java.
Yes. Poor quality aside, it's pretty sick that the Indo-Edge is only $50 cheaper, but it likely made by a small kid that got paid barely anything to make it.

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Here is some pictures of the jersey. They make mistakes similar to a fake jersey. Guess they haven't worked out all the issues yet.

https://www.facebook.com/AntiIndoEdge/photos_stream
Wait... so this is an official or licensed jersey??

Honestly, the market for knockoffs wouldn't be so massive if the companies charged a fair price for a quality product.

I have ordered official gear from nhl.com, paid 200$+ for it and was disapointed, went to a knock off site and ordered 3 jerseys for half the price and all look/felt better than the official gear.

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Wow, had no idea the Reebok "Authentics" had gotten this bad, it's pretty ridiculous.
What makes it more ridiculous is that they had to create this entirely new middle ground between a 1.0 and a 2.0. Most of the league wears the 2.0 (which is made from the same material as the old 6100 airknit), some wear 1.0. No one wears Indo. To basically create this out of nothing is crazy.

And to add to it, Reebok got stuck with so many 1.0s that they ended up dumping huge quantities on SVP Sports up in Canada last summer. Included in that dumping were massive numbers of 2.0s that were going away that Reebok couldn't move any longer, everything from the Calgary Heritage Classic jerseys to the Maple Leaf ones that look like practice jerseys.

SVP was charging something like $60 a pop for these things. Fully licensed, 100% authentic, and $60.

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Wait... so this is an official or licensed jersey??

Honestly, the market for knockoffs wouldn't be so massive if the companies charged a fair price for a quality product.
That's an Indo. Notice the lack of neck tagging (replaced by that green strip tag), and that the code is 7231A. The 1.0 is 7187A, 2.0 is 7287A. All neck tagging on the 1.0 and 2.0 says 7187A; it's the sleeve tags that are different.

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Where can I find jerseys made in canada? I have authentic and replica jerseys that i've bought from the Oilers store and from Pro hockey life but they say they are made in Indonesia.

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Where can I find jerseys made in canada? I have authentic and replica jerseys that i've bought from the Oilers store and from Pro hockey life but they say they are made in Indonesia.
Depends what team you're looking for.

MeiGray (who handles gameworns for a bunch of teams) occasionally lists surplus blanks through their eBay storefront; there are almost always some on their website in the clearance section as well. I've picked up a couple that way for less than $100 apiece.

There are a few guys in Ontario who picked up huge numbers from the SVP sale and have them on eBay. Individuals can occasionally luck into them from odd sources; I got two extremely tough ones less than a month ago this way.

You can always PM me a list of what you're looking for as well, and I can keep an eye out. Just know that a 2.0 is basically a size 52 and up; I've yet to see anything smaller (and only rarely have I seen a 52).

(Recommended simple eBay search)


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they are pretty much trash.

and in the Avs case, they are sickeningly ugly as well.

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Depends what team you're looking for.

MeiGray (who handles gameworns for a bunch of teams) occasionally lists surplus blanks through their eBay storefront; there are almost always some on their website in the clearance section as well. I've picked up a couple that way for less than $100 apiece.

There are a few guys in Ontario who picked up huge numbers from the SVP sale and have them on eBay. Individuals can occasionally luck into them from odd sources; I got two extremely tough ones less than a month ago this way.

You can always PM me a list of what you're looking for as well, and I can keep an eye out. Just know that a 2.0 is basically a size 52 and up; I've yet to see anything smaller (and only rarely have I seen a 52).

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Awesome thanks for the info!

Also I'm looking for a Justin Schultz jersey


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Sorry for the bump but, are the A and C patches on Indo Edge's full sized like they are supposed to be and not ridiculously small like the A on my premier?

Here's the A on the premier...


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Where can I find jerseys made in canada? I have authentic and replica jerseys that i've bought from the Oilers store and from Pro hockey life but they say they are made in Indonesia.
icejerseys.com & coolhockey.com claim that they sell Blackhawks Edge jerseys made in Canada with the Reebok wordmark. Can't say for certain because I haven't inquired yet.

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How much are those indo-edge ones in the states?
I can get those in around $20 - $30 but not that easy to find

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Reebok Edge

I just purchased a Reebok Authentic Patrice Bergeron. I had no idea they were produced in Indonesia. I always thought they were produced in Canada. I used to have an Reebok Edge 1.0 from 2004-05. That jersey was produced in Canada. I thought it was pretty much the same as the CCM.
The current Reebok premier jerseys are garbage. I'll never buy another one. After 1 year the numbers and patches faded. I remember how well constructed the CCM replicas were back in the 1990s.
I was googling my current jersey. I guess we're calling them indo - edge. It's totally worth the money. I love it. Reebok did an excellent job. I just don't like the premiers.

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