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05-23-2013, 10:57 PM
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Seriously?



Dude READ. No excuse for you not understanding me there. This is embarrassing

Also half of what you wrote there is opinion and not fact. The PP failed. Fact. The PP cost us the game. Opinion. There are levels of blame to assign but to ignore the majority of the game which is played 5 on 5 and to ignore the goals which could have been saved and normally are saved by the best goalie on earth is just poor analysis
It is indeed embarrassing when you don't remember what you posed
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Opinion the offense utterly no showed and embarrassed themselves but they should have never had to play in OT if it wasn't for Hank giving up two bad goals.
For some reason you didn't post that key word.

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05-23-2013, 10:58 PM
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I still don't think that the Hagelin goal is as big of a gaffe on Rask's part as people make it out to be.
He fell down and moved his stick out of the path of the puck on a half speed backhander.

He deserves all the scrutiny.

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For all the bad luck Rangers have had, that goal was mighty lucky.

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It is indeed embarrassing when you don't remember what you posed

For some reason you didn't post that key word.
This comment makes literally zero sense. How is that a key word explain yourself

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I'm dying to know why.
I mentioned it a couple of pages back, but since it's been brought up again...

That was one of the most bizarre deflections I've ever seen. Drastic change of speed. Drastic change of direction. Rask was committed to handling it as if it were still coming straight on and reacted. His muscles told his body to go one way, physics told his body to go the other and he fell. As it was, he's still slightly moving to the left of the net when he swipes at the puck with his stick, which he does manage to touch, but not enough. All of his inertia was going the wrong way. But the speed change is really what gets him here. It threw off all of his timing to make up for the direction change.

I'm honestly not sure there's a goalie in the world who stops that puck once committed to it coming straight on. Too many factors going against you.

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05-23-2013, 11:02 PM
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I mentioned it a couple of pages back, but since it's been brought up again...

That was one of the most bizarre deflections I've ever seen. Drastic change of speed. Drastic change of direction. Rask was committed to handling it as if it were still coming straight on and reacted. His muscles told his body to go one way, physics told his body to go the other and he fell. As it was, he's still slightly moving to the left of the net when he swipes at the puck with his stick, which he does manage to touch, but not enough. All of his inertia was going the wrong way. But the speed change is really what gets him here. It threw off all of his timing to make up for the direction change.

I'm honestly not sure there's a goalie in the world who stops that puck once committed to it coming straight on. Too many factors going against you.
Most goalies I'd suspect would catch their balance first seeing the speed and trajectory of the puck. He sort of panic'd and fell over. The fall killed him. I get what you're saying though. I think he just got caught at the absolute worst moment and had a brainfart (panicing and the resulting fall) but most goalies would make that save and not make that brainfart

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This comment makes literally zero sense. How is that a key word explain yourself
should be pretty simple to digest unless you are trying to tap dance around it. Go back and reread the exchanges.
Remember your own words "Facts vs opinions".

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If you are referring to all the posts above yours, they are talking about game 1. Haven't read anyone getting on Hank for today
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He was tonight I dunno why but the other guy and I are talking about game 1
that's what i get for skimming just my page

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05-23-2013, 11:03 PM
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This was the first playoff game I missed since I started watching I think. I saw the last few minutes and the end in OT.

BTW, I was thinking recently, I don't think the Rangers have had a multiple goal comeback in the playoffs since the lockout. Am I right?

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Here's another angle


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Brassard, imho, was our best skater...by a MILE, tonight.

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Can you name bigger gaffes? Just wondering. I'm including the context of the moment also. Not just the physical act of the derp, but the ensuing momentum swing, too.
How about Richter allowing a goal from center ice against the Penguins in 1992?

Or Salo allowing a similar type of goal from the neutral zone against Belarus in the Olympics in 2002?

Or, if we can include non-goalie gaffes, Martin Erat trying to score on the powerplay with a one goal lead and less than a minute left in game 5 in 2010, Nashville vs Chicago, turning the puck over and allowing the game to get into OT?

There are other goalie ones too. Plenty of laughable moments to go around. This one was all about physics.

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should be pretty simple to digest unless you are trying to tap dance around it. Go back and reread the exchanges.
Remember your own words "Facts vs opinions".
If I was trying to paraphrase you as if I was posting YOUR opinion then this comment would make sense. But it was MY opinion so your comment makes zero sense and since you can't explain I guess you agree. Based on the discussion and the point I was making your comment literally makes no sense.

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Brassard, imho, was our best skater...by a MILE, tonight.
McD was pretty good too.

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Oh and that Jonny Boychuk hit was one of my favorites in recent memory. Completely clean, just catching a guy (idiot) with his head down, and nobody was hurt.

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Brassard, imho, was our best skater...by a MILE, tonight.
Best part of the Gabby-trade. I can't believe we got him + Moore + Dorsett for Gaborik!

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If I was trying to paraphrase you as if I was posting YOUR opinion then this comment would make sense. But it was MY opinion so your comment makes zero sense and since you can't explain I guess you agree. Based on the discussion and the point I was making your comment literally makes no sense.
Can't follow your twists and turns.
Fact is the PP blowing late in regulation cost us game 1 not Hank.

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Most goalies I'd suspect would catch their balance first seeing the speed and trajectory of the puck. He sort of panic'd and fell over. The fall killed him. I get what you're saying though. I think he just got caught at the absolute worst moment and had a brainfart (panicing and the resulting fall) but most goalies would make that save and not make that brainfart
He definitely got caught in between. A lot like an infielder committing an error on a bad hop.

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Yep. That was the worst.

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McDonagh played an OUTSTANDING game today

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Here's another angle

That angle shows real well that he's still moving past the post, while trying to stop himself with his glove and his right skate as he swipes at the puck.

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To think that this essentially saved our season. Wow.
I'm still not exactly sure what's going on here...

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That angle shows real well that he's still moving past the post, while trying to stop himself with his glove and his right skate as he swipes at the puck.
what that angle shows is one of the, if not THE softest goal ever given up in a playoff game.


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McDonagh was our best player tonight along with Lundqvist.

That was the most dynamic I've seen McDonagh play in all 3 zones since last years playoffs. Not quite sure why he doesn't turn it up like that more often.
Seems that torts keeps the blue line on a tight defensive leash. Make the safe plays and not pinch unless necessary. When they turned it on tonight, maybe they were playing on instinct.

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what that angle shows is one of the, if not THE softest goal ever given up in a playoff game.

Instead of enjoying this win, some are finding a way to blame Hank for game 1 loss, go figure.

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