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10-04-2006, 02:19 PM
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Bouillon might get operated again...

I am surprised nobody reported this, but yesterday Michel Villeneuve and François Gagnon reported an of the record talk they had with Francis Bouillon. Apparently, he is not convinced his knee is ok and he might be operated again. This would mean for him a few other months off the ice. This makes the Niinimaa trade looking very important, and may explain why we might see Souray been kept with the team untill the end of the season.

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I am surprised nobody reported this, but yesterday Michel Villeneuve and François Gagnon reported an of the record talk they had with Francis Bouillon. Apparently, he is not convinced his knee is ok and he might be operated again. This would mean for him a few other months off the ice. This makes the Niinimaa trade looking very important, and may explain why we might see Souray been kept with the team untill the end of the season.
They said that we shouldn't be surprised not to see him AT ALL during this season....

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I've been wondering about this. I seem to recall that the Habs were concerned about his knee prior to resigning him and waited for test results before engaging in negotiations. Did they just miss it? Did they not care? Did Bouillon pull a fast one?

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How long does he have to be out before his contract doesn't count against our cap [or we can spend over our cap as much as his contract is worth]?

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Long term, if he's out all year his salary won't count against the cap

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I'm thinking that Bouillon himself had no idea it was so serious an injury.

I'm not familiar with all the details of the CBA, but would this mean that his salary would be covered by insurance until he returns and, as such, free up cap space? Does he need to go on the IR?

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I love it how everyone is worried while last year so many people were saying that Franky means nothing to this team and that he can easily be replace blah blah blah...

Get well soon, Cube!

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It was discussed in this thread: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=296461

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I love it how everyone is worried while last year so many people were saying that Franky means nothing to this team and that he can easily be replace blah blah blah...

Get well soon, Cube!
Well, currently for the year 07-08, Gainey can count on Dandenault, Bouillon, Komisarek, Streit and O'Byrne.

Suddenly, he might look more important for several posters here.

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If he is gone for the duration of the seaosn that will blow hard. And you can almost bet your bottom doallar that unless Streit and Niinimaa really step up none of Rivet or Souray will be delt before the deadline!

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I dont see Habs trading their own defencemen, unless we are out of playoffs picture and selling. All the better ones are UFA and only good for rentals.

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I love it how everyone is worried while last year so many people were saying that Franky means nothing to this team and that he can easily be replace blah blah blah...

Get well soon, Cube!
I don't think everyone is worried. And yes, he can easily be replaced. He is the team's No 6 defenseman and not a Norris candidate. Case in point, Gainey acquired Niinimaa rather easily. Then there is Cote when he comes back from injury in a month or so. Streit is a good No 7 and costs far less. Bouillon not playing this season adds almost 2 million more to the kitty and, if Niinimaa plays to potential, may have helped us become a better team this year ironically enough.

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Habs would be smart to get Cube operated on ASAP incase he is to miss the whole season and use that available $1,875,000 + $3,000,000 = $4,875,000 to address a need in UFA or trade. Bondra or Leclerc could be cheap at or under $1,000,000 for one year options.

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I think the Habs have enough depth at D to tolerate his absence. However, this talk about his missing the entire season may be baseless gossip.

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I bet we trade for Lang now, if Boullion goes on LTIR.

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I love it how everyone is worried while last year so many people were saying that Franky means nothing to this team and that he can easily be replace blah blah blah...

Get well soon, Cube!
Well they are right!!!

Bouillon was easily replaceable during the offseason but now all the D's have been signed. It's a completly different context.

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The acquisition of Niinimaa makes much more sense now.

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The acquisition of Niinimaa makes much more sense now.
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I love it how everyone is worried while last year so many people were saying that Franky means nothing to this team and that he can easily be replace blah blah blah...
Just goes to show how well Bouillon played last season... You, on the other hand, need to take a pill.

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I am surprised nobody reported this, but yesterday Michel Villeneuve and François Gagnon reported an of the record talk they had with Francis Bouillon. Apparently, he is not convinced his knee is ok and he might be operated again. This would mean for him a few other months off the ice. This makes the Niinimaa trade looking very important, and may explain why we might see Souray been kept with the team untill the end of the season.
The fact that losing Boullion actually hurts our defence, is a sad state of affairs regarding our defensive depth.

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The fact that losing Boullion actually hurts our defence, is a sad state of affairs regarding our defensive depth.
Bouillon is a quality 5-6 D with speed...he also give great hits. Dont forget last year durring the first month he was our best D and not necessarily because the others were playing like crap.

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Bouillon is a quality 5-6 D with speed...he also give great hits. Dont forget last year durring the first month he was our best D and not necessarily because the others were playing like crap.
His hits are few, and far between. His reach in quite inadequate, and he can rarely clear the front of the net.

Useful player when used sparingly? Yes. A bonafide #6 or 7 dman? Nope, only in Montreal.

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His hits are few, and far between. His reach in quite inadequate, and he can rarely clear the front of the net.

Useful player when used sparingly? Yes. A bonafide #6 or 7 dman? Nope, only in Montreal.

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His hits are few, and far between. His reach in quite inadequate, and he can rarely clear the front of the net.

Useful player when used sparingly? Yes. A bonafide #6 or 7 dman? Nope, only in Montreal.
http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app?fetc...tssPlayerStats

18th in the league (2nd in the team) for hits... few hits huh ?

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Everyone says our D is soft, but then you see those hits stats posted by radir and we have two D from our team in the top 30 of the whole league for hits and both only played 67 games (Cube) and 71 games (Kommy - with limited ice time) respectively!

Souray and Rivet play a little hard nosed too, the pundits and critics in the media world obviously don't look at the numbers.

I think the experts under estimate this team, which is a good thing because I like being the under dog or dark horse.

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