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Marc Staal wants mandatory visor use/UPD - NHLPA vote results to NHL 6/4

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05-27-2013, 06:25 PM
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Marc Staal wants mandatory visor use/UPD - NHLPA vote results to NHL 6/4

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...to-100-percent

Yet another call for mandatory visors. Wonder if it'll come up (finally) this summer with competition committee and BOG approval.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...to-100-percent

Yet another call for mandatory visors. Wonder if it'll come up (finally) this summer with competition committee and BOG approval.
Have to get the NHLPA on board with visors first. Maybe get Kevlar socks included as well.


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And neck guards. Make them into some fashionable tactlenecks.

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Visors are mandatory in major junior, European leagues, IIHF-sanctioned competitions, and the American Hockey League. A full cage is mandatory in the NCAA. Every player coming into the NHL from other levels have experience wearing a visor.

They should been made mandatory in the NHL several years ago, with a grandfather clause for those who are already in the league. Anything done now would be long overdue.

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fighting is the reason visors are not required in the nhl. the nhlpa wont sign off on visors til they decide they are ready for that.

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Have to get the NHLPA on board with visors first. Maybe get Kevlar socks included as well.
Yep, if the NHLPA request such a rule, I would expect the NHL to have the rule in place as fast as the paper work can be prepared, in case the union changes its mind.

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...nhl-on-june-4/

Actually... the NHLPA has taken a vote and will give the results to the NHL on June 4.

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There are a tonne of things the NHLPA should be doing to protect their union members.

- Full PPE during warm-ups and practices
- Visors
- Helmets done up properly (i.e. no Kassian strap)
- Mouthguards stay in the mouth (i.e. no Kane chewing)
- Kevlar socks
- Neck guards
- Soft-capped shoulder and elbow pads
- Longer gloves
- Hybrid or No Touch Icing
- Allow the NHL to levy larger penalties for dangerous behaviour

Just to start. The players don't seem to give a crap about themselves or each other.

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There are a tonne of things the NHLPA should be doing to protect their union members.

- Full PPE during warm-ups and practices
- Visors
- Helmets done up properly (i.e. no Kassian strap)
- Mouthguards stay in the mouth (i.e. no Kane chewing)
- Kevlar socks
- Neck guards
- Soft-capped shoulder and elbow pads
- Longer gloves
- Hybrid or No Touch Icing
- Allow the NHL to levy larger penalties for dangerous behaviour

Just to start. The players don't seem to give a crap about themselves or each other.
I agree with all of that. I said years ago that they should enforce full facial protection. Geez, they can already whip off the helmets quickly if they really want to (for a fight). They often don't have the helmets on tight anyway.

Not only are these steps going to protect the players from injury (or at least more than NOT doing it), it will save the NHL and organizations more money and help the players preserve their health and thus, they will be more productive (at least, potentially - health wise) to their team. For everyone, it's WIN, WIN.

They can always ask the equipment manufacturers for 'better' equipment that allows them to see better, lighter but still protective guards etc.

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...nhl-on-june-4/

Actually... the NHLPA has taken a vote and will give the results to the NHL on June 4.
Why the wait for a big reveal? Why not simply say, "here's how we voted" and allow both sides an opportunity to fully prepare for the meeting?

I don't get the NHLPA sometimes...

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It's at the competition committee meeting they'll be revealing the results.

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We should wrap them in bubble wrap and then complain about the speed of the game.

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It's at the competition committee meeting they'll be revealing the results.
Is there not a separate committee for player safety?

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Is there not a separate committee for player safety?
You mean the NHL (only) one that Shanahan heads up? Excluding the R&D camp, really haven't seen much regarding coming from committee (especially regarding actual safety issues); don't recall anything WRT improved equipment (e.g., helmets, pads).

The competition committee is the joint NHL-NHLPA committee that recommends rule changes, etc., which are then sent to the BOG for final approval.




http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...t-weeks-talks/

Poll options seem to be: status quo (freedom of choice), grandfather, mandatory

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it will probably end up as 'freedom of choice.'

in the past whenever it's been brought up, players were apparently overwhelmingly in support of that option.

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I used to be against visors, until i got puck to the eye.

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I bet that Marc will receive a lot less pucks to the face now that Tortorella is gone.

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We should wrap them in bubble wrap and then complain about the speed of the game.
I tend to fall more on the side of more protection than less protection, but I laughed at this.

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There are a tonne of things the NHLPA should be doing to protect their union members.

- Full PPE during warm-ups and practices
- Visors
- Helmets done up properly (i.e. no Kassian strap)
- Mouthguards stay in the mouth (i.e. no Kane chewing)
- Kevlar socks
- Neck guards
- Soft-capped shoulder and elbow pads
- Longer gloves
- Hybrid or No Touch Icing
- Allow the NHL to levy larger penalties for dangerous behaviour

Just to start. The players don't seem to give a crap about themselves or each other.
MOD That sounds awful, these are grown men who know the risk. Neck guards and longer gloves, you couldn't get me to wear either of those, and I don't make millions of dollars to play. I think most guys can handles a little pain, visors are understandable, vision is not typically repairable, but bumps on bruises are.

Lastly, if you haven't ever played hockey with full gear, you wouldn't have any idea how incredibly HOT you can get, neck guard would be awful. I sweat like I'm in a sauna in full gear, anything else would be unbearable.

And the shorter gloves still protect the wrist, and way better for dexterity, leave the gloves alone.


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Soft-capped shoulder and elbow pads are very sensible though. Reduce the damage to those receiving hits!

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MOD That sounds awful, these are grown men who know the risk. Neck guards and longer gloves, you couldn't get me to wear either of those, and I don't make millions of dollars to play. I think most guys can handles a little pain, visors are understandable, vision is not typically repairable, but bumps on bruises are.

Lastly, if you haven't ever played hockey with full gear, you wouldn't have any idea how incredibly HOT you can get, neck guard would be awful. I sweat like I'm in a sauna in full gear, anything else would be unbearable.

And the shorter gloves still protect the wrist, and way better for dexterity, leave the gloves alone.
MOD Neck guards are mandatory in pretty much every league except the NHL. They don't bother you in any way and can literally save your life.

Sorry, but I don't sweat from my neck very often.


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MOD Neck guards are mandatory in pretty much every league except the NHL. They don't bother you in any way and can literally save your life.

Sorry, but I don't sweat from my neck very often.
MOD

And your neck might not sweat, but you realize your head and neck trap in more heat then the rest of your body? Any idea why people wear scarves in the winter?

Maybe read this if you are naive to body heat and the correlation with your head and neck.
http://howtorunamarathon.net/Maintai...emperatur.html


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And your neck might not sweat, but you realize your head and neck trap in more heat then the rest of your body? Any idea why people wear scarves in the winter?

Maybe read this if you are naive to body heat and the correlation with your head and neck.
http://howtorunamarathon.net/Maintai...emperatur.html
Do they trap in more heat or emit more heat? Why protect a part of the body from the elements that doesn't need it? Do you wear gloves in the winter because your hands trap in heat? Your example has absolutely no correlation to your point.

We should let players go onto the ice without helmets on if we're really that worried about their body temperature and how a 1 ft piece of protective material around their necks impacts it. I mean, goalies (who play the entire 60 minutes of a game) are forced to wear them but players are going to be overheating left, right, and centre if we force them to? Give me a break.


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I agree with staal, visors should be mandatory in the NHL.

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Neck guards are mandatory in pretty much every league except the NHL.
Pretty sure that's not true. Hockey Canada requires them up through juniors, but outside of that it's up to leagues and individuals to set their own rules AFAIK. They certainly aren't mandatory in the pro leagues.

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