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10-02-2006, 09:54 PM
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They are both playing huge roles on our team this season. Which will be better? Which will finish with more points?
I think Higgins perhaps

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10-02-2006, 09:58 PM
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Higgins will do slightly better

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10-02-2006, 10:44 PM
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I remember last year when Higgins & Plekan were playing together on the power killing, they kept having 2 on 1 and did an awesome job, would be killer to see them together on the PK this year, they could add more pts!
lol they did have alot of 2 on 1's but what they REALLy had were alot of PK breakaways together!

For PP id use Ryder/ Koivu / Kovalev

but for PK id definately use Plekanec / Higgins

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10-03-2006, 12:06 AM
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Im expecting both having about the same offensive stats.. Pleks, playing with Kovy and Sammy, getting some PP time, should be enough to have a 60-65 pts season... will make the line very dangerous, outplaying the opposition every shifts, will end the year about +20..

Im expecting Higgins to have about the same stats, maybe will reach 70 pts this year if he and Koivu stay healthy all the season long... Just like Pleks, Higgins has a great hockey sense, he is an amazing all around player with the skills to play on a first line... Both are high level performers, the type of players you win with.

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10-03-2006, 12:14 AM
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Pleks has always been better offensively as he outscored Higgins every year in the AHL. Pleks will now have a chance to prove now that he will play on the 2nd line.
By every year you mean 1 AHL year? Pleck 2nd and Higgins 1st.

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10-03-2006, 02:19 AM
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Which will be better? Which will finish with more points?
higgins in answer to both your questions.

though pleks is good

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10-03-2006, 02:42 AM
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although higgins obviously had the better rookie year, I think that pleks has the ability to be just as effective as higgins. Its just a matter of stepping up and showing carbo that he belongs in the top 6.

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10-03-2006, 04:23 AM
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Higgins vs Plekanec, I need to make a choice between these two as well; which to get on an offical rbk red habs jersey.

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10-03-2006, 06:09 AM
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By every year you mean 1 AHL year? Pleck 2nd and Higgins 1st.
Two AHL seasons, read your facts my friend...

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10-03-2006, 06:28 AM
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Face-offs last year : Kovalev: 48% Ribeiro: 44% .
Please anybody can take a face-off better than Ribs and that didn't keep him away from pp. Get the 3 guys that are more likely to get it done; if one happens to be a face-off specialist, great ! If not, too bad ! If we ever get a PP at the end of a game with a face-off in the off zone, we'll get Plekanec out there, and that's the end of it
I believe Kovalev prefers staying on his wing and you dont want to start messing with $4.5M player like that. He only took a small fraction of draws when designated guy was waved off. Putting Latendresse there in the middle is just crazy, fun experiment on the preseason, but wont fly when the real games begin.

Plekanec had a success rate slightly over 50%. Only Koivu was better of the regular faceoff men. He will do just fine.

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10-03-2006, 06:50 AM
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Pleks is very very fast, and good with the puck. He is very good at faceoffs. He CAN shoot but it's not his first choice. He always takes a fraction of a second to read the play and possible pass. Pleks has that ability to intercept passes and creat turnovers. Look for his wingers to get lots of good passes for those quick one-timers.

Higgins is smart, a little bigger a tad slower but NOT a slow player.
Higgins is better along the boards than Pleks. When in a good position Higgins will shoot first and ask questions later thats why Koivu has good chemistry with him. Higgins works very hard to constantly be in a "Good Position" for Koivu. Look for Higgins to bury rebounds all year.

A note on Latandresse, I hope injuries dont forced him into tons of ice time too fast. At 19 he WILL make mistakes as he learns and the Habs will just have to live with them. Over all it's most important that Tender makes his IMPACT near the playoffs.
As long as Carbo does not throw him to the wolves too soon and lets Tender develop a bit along the year, I see Tender asserting his "eyes of the hunter" by years end.

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10-03-2006, 10:56 AM
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Higgins all the way, although I'm definitly one of Plek's biggest fans. FInally a chance to shine offensively.

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10-03-2006, 07:54 PM
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I would tend to believe that Pleks has an edge over Higgins, Pleks averaged pretty close to the same PPG as Higgins last season and this without the PP/top line minutes that Higgins played. In addition he did it as the go to guy, he forced every one of these points. Higgins on the other hand only started to produce once he started playing with Koivu.

Now he gets linemates that can complement him, hopefully sometime during the year they will make few additional changes of if chimistry is good between pleks and Kovalev, look for Plek to be one of the top 3 point producer for this team... perhaps even higher then Koivu.

For Higgins, I guess it will depend a lot on how hot Ryder will be this year. My guess is that he will be as hot as Ryder or better. So hope Ryder as a good season, but mostly hope koivu stays healthy.

Now, this does not mean I do not like them both.

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10-03-2006, 09:43 PM
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Apples Oranges, which is better? They are not the same type of player and they are not playing with the same types of linemates...why bother comparing?
They'll both do just fine and that's ok by me
Well said.

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10-04-2006, 03:25 AM
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I believe that Higgins is on a roll. Remember, after the Olympics, he was the second highest scorer in the NHL. I believe that Plecanek might be more skilled but Higgins' experience last year could be the difference. Higgins should have more points but Plecanek will also have a great year. I think Higgins will have most of the habs' goals this year. If there's one player that has a chance to score 40-50 plus goals this year, it's him although it's not likely ...

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10-05-2006, 12:47 PM
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u boys jokin right? Why even entertain this rediculous idea IMHO...Higgins is gonna produce more than plekanec, he's a sniper but can set goals up as well ... he's going to develop into a considerably better offensive player ( bout 15-25 more goals than plek per season, 10-20 more points ). Also, his defensive game at the current moment is where I see Plekanec's ceiling for defensive play.

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u boys jokin right? Why even entertain this rediculous idea IMHO...Higgins is gonna produce more than plekanec, he's a sniper but can set goals up as well ... he's going to develop into a considerably better offensive player ( bout 15-25 more goals than plek per season, 10-20 more points ). Also, his defensive game at the current moment is where I see Plekanec's ceiling for defensive play.
Well Pleks is going to play with 2 offensive players in Kovalev and Samsonov. Higgins will play with Koivu and Ryder. I think it's pretty fair to say that it will pe close.

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10-05-2006, 01:10 PM
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u boys jokin right? Why even entertain this rediculous idea IMHO...Higgins is gonna produce more than plekanec, he's a sniper but can set goals up as well ... he's going to develop into a considerably better offensive player ( bout 15-25 more goals than plek per season, 10-20 more points ). Also, his defensive game at the current moment is where I see Plekanec's ceiling for defensive play.
Plekanec projected production over entire last season was 35-36 points ... thats only couple points less than Higgins 38 and he didnt have Koivu and Ryder as his linemates after Olympic break. I'm willing to give edge to Higgins in scoring goals, but be surprised to see him get more than 10 points over Plekanec.

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10-05-2006, 01:13 PM
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I'm not sure what the answer is to the question but I'm sure glad we have them both on our team.

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I think this will be Pleks coming out party this year. If he's centre for Kovy & Samy he will get more pts then Higgins imho


Yes!! Pleks will score more than Higgins...just slightly though.

Pleks.......27 goals
Higgins....24 goals

I know this is high, but I have to stay positive.

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it seems to me that plex is overretted by our fans.

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most of you guys are overratting plekanec

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most of you guys are overratting plekanec
Maybe its because you havent realized his potential yet...wait and see...

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most of you guys are overratting plekanec
Saying favorable things about Plekanec doesn't necessarily mean overrating him. How good does he have to be before you stop saying he's overrated?

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