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While I wold be surprised if Wang opened the cash drawer to sign Hank, that could change depending on what happens with Season Ticket Sales heading into the Barclays...signing Hank for the last season in NVMC could generate some ticket sales in Brooklyn because Hank is well recognized in the Metro Area.
The Fish Sticks are probably the only team I could see offering Hank 10+M per year (as a cap number).

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Chicago, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh would all benefit even more having Lundqvist in net. I know the cap would likely mess with some things (although Philly could buy out Bryz to make room?)
Philly can't fit him with the Cap. Chicago would have to buy out a number of players or trade them. Pittsburgh the same. Too much work for those teams to fit Lundqvist.

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I wouldn't give him more than 5 years, his style is hard on the knees and hips.
$8 million for five years would eat up an awful lot of cap room....

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Philly can't fit him with the Cap. Chicago would have to buy out a number of players or trade them. Pittsburgh the same. Too much work for those teams to fit Lundqvist.
Ah okay. I think if any of those three teams traded one of their high end forwards to make room, they'd be of more benefit with Lundqvist in the back end to steal some games for them though.

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While I wold be surprised if Wang opened the cash drawer to sign Hank, that could change depending on what happens with Season Ticket Sales heading into the Barclays...signing Hank for the last season in NVMC could generate some ticket sales in Brooklyn because Hank is well recognized in the Metro Area.
Wang and Snowstorm already got all ridiculous when they signed Goalie 2021 to his asinine contract. Would not put anything past them where Hank is concerned.

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I wouldn't give him more than 5 years, his style is hard on the knees and hips.
I'd give him 8. He doesn't have to be our #1 the last year or two. But he's the most important player on this team for the next 5 for sure.

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Ah okay. I think if any of those three teams traded one of their high end forwards to make room, they'd be of more benefit with Lundqvist in the back end to steal some games for them though.
My main thought with that is that it's just too much work to fit one player. Chicago, especially, has built their team around skaters. I don't see them changing up their system that much.

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Chicago, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh would all benefit even more having Lundqvist in net. I know the cap would likely mess with some things (although Philly could buy out Bryz to make room?)
Chicago has already been covered in this thread. Philly is already 3.2 mil over next years cap, with 8 UFA's and 3 RFA's to be signed.

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My main thought with that is that it's just too much work to fit one player. Chicago, especially, has built their team around skaters. I don't see them changing up their system that much.
You're right about Chicago, and Detroit has built their team around skaters too. So has San Jose. And Pittsburgh. And Boston.

Things that make you go hmmmm......

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You're right about Chicago, and Detroit has built their team around skaters too. So has San Jose. And Pittsburgh. And Boston.

Things that make you go hmmmm......
Trust me. I am with you on that one. That's why I have an 8M max for Lundqvist. And even then I cringe a bit.

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You're right about Chicago, and Detroit has built their team around skaters too. So has San Jose. And Pittsburgh. And Boston.

Things that make you go hmmmm......
You're right, we get it, we should trade our entire roster and get some good skaters that can hold the puck and score. Getting rid of Lundqvist and adding a 3 mil goalie won't change anything other than we'll end up getting scored on a hell lot more. We need to change a huge part of the current roster.

You've been saying you don't want Lundqvist here unless he resigns for that he has now or less for like 5 pages now, WE GET IT.

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You're right, we get it, we should trade our entire roster and get some good skaters that can hold the puck and score. Getting rid of Lundqvist and adding a 3 mil goalie won't change anything other than we'll end up getting scored on a hell lot more. We need to change a huge part of the current roster.

You've been saying you don't want Lundqvist here unless he resigns for that he has now or less for like 5 pages now, WE GET IT.
It's a public message board. Stop acting like your posts are the only ones that should be on it.

We get it. You don't want to read certain things. Put JG and myself on your ignore list so we don't bother you so much.

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$8 million for five years would eat up an awful lot of cap room....
Yeah it's a big chunk o'change, around 11% if the 2014-2015 cap goes up to 70 million from 64.3.

If I'm Sather I see if any goalies (Loungo) fall victim to compliance buyouts and go from there

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Wang and Snowstorm already got all ridiculous when they signed Goalie 2021 to his asinine contract. Would not put anything past them where Hank is concerned.
But that's because Wang had a Bromance with Dipi

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Yeah it's a big chunk o'change, around 11% if the 2014-2015 cap goes up to 70 million from 64.3.

If I'm Sather I see if any goalies (Loungo) fall victim to compliance buyouts and go from there
I can't say I disagree with that logic. At least it could give us a bargaining chip.

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You're right, we get it, we should trade our entire roster and get some good skaters that can hold the puck and score. Getting rid of Lundqvist and adding a 3 mil goalie won't change anything other than we'll end up getting scored on a hell lot more. We need to change a huge part of the current roster.

You've been saying you don't want Lundqvist here unless he resigns for that he has now or less for like 5 pages now, WE GET IT.
Except that I didn't say anything above that you attributed to me.

But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a perfectly illogical rant, right?

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You're right about Chicago, and Detroit has built their team around skaters too. So has San Jose. And Pittsburgh. And Boston.

Things that make you go hmmmm......
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The sick irony is that our defensive team would probably have won a Cup pre-lockout (if we had the same team as we do now). Oof.

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You're right, we get it, we should trade our entire roster and get some good skaters that can hold the puck and score. Getting rid of Lundqvist and adding a 3 mil goalie won't change anything other than we'll end up getting scored on a hell lot more. We need to change a huge part of the current roster.

You've been saying you don't want Lundqvist here unless he resigns for that he has now or less for like 5 pages now, WE GET IT.
Want to tell me the salaries of the Cup Winning goalies since the 04-05 lockout? I can pretty much guarantee that aside from Tim Thomas the majority had team friendly contracts.

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Let me first say that I LOVE Hank, and hope to heck we find a way to re-sign him to a cap-friendly contract that works for both Hank and us. Nothing would make me happier than to see Hank hoist the Stanley Cup in a Rangers uniform.

That said, I think it's fair to note that these are currently the highest paid goalies in the NHL in 2013:

1. Rinne - Nashville - no playoffs
2. Lundqvist - New York - won one round.
3. Price - St Louis - knocked out in first round
4. Ward - Carolina - no playoffs
5. Miller - Buffalo - no playoffs
6. Backstrom - Minnesota - knocked out in first round
7. Kiprusoff - Calgary - no playoffs
8. Bryzgalov - Philadelphia - no playoffs
9. Luongo - Vancouver - knocked out in first round
10. Thomas - did not play

Just sayin'...

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Trust me. I am with you on that one. That's why I have an 8M max for Lundqvist. And even then I cringe a bit.
8 million IMO even is way too much. But if we want Hank we will probably fork that over to keep him. That's not to say don't sign him. However, Sather and friends should start to research some damage control strategies just in case...

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Want to tell me the salaries of the Cup Winning goalies since the 04-05 lockout? I can pretty much guarantee that aside from Tim Thomas the majority had team friendly contracts.
Of course. But what would change? Unless we fire Tort to change the system and add some players that actually perform, we'll most likely be in an even worse situation than we are in now.

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Let me first say that I LOVE Hank, and hope to heck we find a way to re-sign him to a cap-friendly contract that works for both Hank and us.

That said, I think it's fair to note that these are currently the highest paid goalies in the NHL in 2013:

1. Rinne - Nashville - no playoffs
2. Lundqvist - New York - won one round.
3. Price - St Louis - knocked out in first round
4. Ward - Carolina - no playoffs
5. Miller - Buffalo - no playoffs
6. Backstrom - Minnesota - knocked out in first round
7. Kiprusoff - Calgary - no playoffs
8. Bryzgalov - Philadelphia - no playoffs
9. Luongo - Vancouver - knocked out in first round
10. Thomas - did not play

Just sayin'...
Who is after Thomas? I am basically counting him out right now. Just wondering, to be honest (I don't know).

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Of course. But what would change? Unless we fire Tort to change the system and add some players that actually perform, we'll most likely be in an even worse situation than we are in now.
Well, we can't add players that perform with Hank having a giant contract.

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Who is after Thomas? I am basically counting him out right now. Just wondering, to be honest (I don't know).
I only saw the top ten, but probably Fleury.

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