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05-30-2013, 04:27 PM
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Noob-stick

I'm new to hockey, started less than a year ago.

Am using a bauer vaporXVI with a p88 curve.

I have a really hard time stick handling(big time), shooting is better however, wrister mainly.

Today at shinny I used some young guy's stick lol(sherwood t70 underover)http://www.prohockeylife.com/composi...y-stick-p-7209

Is where he said he got it, so chances are he had the Stastny curve.

As soon as I started stick handling with it, was like night and day, like my hands just got softer and my speed increased, even though it seemed his was heavier.

So what is it? Is it the fact that his was a heel curve, and mine was a mid curve?

Was it the fact that I used white tape my blade and his was black?

Was it because I cut my stick 1" down even though I'm 6' tall and it should be longer?(He was shorter than me, with a longer stick)

Do bauer sticks just plain blow?

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05-30-2013, 06:54 PM
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I'm thinking placebo effect.

You could try experimenting with the height of your stick. For someone who is new, I'd say it's more likely something like that than the equipment you're using.

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I made that mistake of thinking a different curve made me do certain things better but regretted almost everything and am back using what I used when I first started if I were you I would just stick to the basics and work on your tech without worrying about the different things when you get good you'll be able to do everything with any stick

And just IMO the color of tape has nothing to do with anything ever

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Sounds like the lie and or length of the stick. The P88 has a lower lie than the P92.

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05-30-2013, 11:59 PM
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Sounds like the lie and or length of the stick. The P88 has a lower lie than the P92.
I believe they share the same lie of 6.

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I believe they share the same lie of 6.
Naw, the p88 is definitely a little lower. I used it and didn't like it.

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They're both listed at lie 6, and the P92 has a lie 5 version as well.

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I would say length of stick was most likely the culprit here. Though I find its easier to stick handle with a shorter stick. Lie could be a factor, I bought a s19 with a lie of 5 and it's the worst stick I've used. You just got to find what works for you, I always thought the P88 was the perfect curve for me then I tried the P92.

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I would say length of stick was most likely the culprit here. Though I find its easier to stick handle with a shorter stick. Lie could be a factor, I bought a s19 with a lie of 5 and it's the worst stick I've used. You just got to find what works for you, I always thought the P88 was the perfect curve for then I tried the P92.

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Unless you stick-handle exclusively on your heel or toe, lie isn't as significant as many people think.

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Naw, the p88 is definitely a little lower. I used it and didn't like it.
I use both the P92 and P88. While they are both technically a lie 6, the difference in blade rocker definitely makes the P88 play lower. P88 has a shorter blade too.

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Well today I'm going to pro hockey life to buy a wood extension for the butt end of my stick, see if that does anything. If not guess I'll have to buy a new stick, because the only other one I have is the sherwood 5030, coffey, which is just as short as my bauer.

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Guessing the Sherwood blade had better puck feel and the puck wasn't bouncing as much?

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05-31-2013, 03:23 PM
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Exactly right, Jarick. The stick had an overall better feel to it, the blade felt lighter, therefore easier to stick handle.

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Well today I'm going to pro hockey life to buy a wood extension for the butt end of my stick, see if that does anything. If not guess I'll have to buy a new stick, because the only other one I have is the sherwood 5030, coffey, which is just as short as my bauer.
You could also just try working on your stick-handling technique more. I know that helped me be comfortable with a variety of sticks. My favorite stick handling-wise is the APX in a P88. Shooting-wise it's the same stick, but with the P14 pattern.

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Exactly right, Jarick. The stick had an overall better feel to it, the blade felt lighter, therefore easier to stick handle.
There's a couple ways to get really good feeling blades.

First, you could get a high end stick, nearly all of them have good feeling blades that are light. That's why we're always talking about clearance high end sticks that you can find for a little over $100!

The other is to get a wood blade. If you have a tapered shaft, a tapered wood blade feels pretty light and cushions the puck really well. Or in a pinch, a wood stick will feel great but usually heavy overall.

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Am using a bauer vaporXVI with a p88 curve.
Playing with a XVI is like playing with a slab of cement. I don't recommend buying really expensive sticks until you're sure you know what you want, but keep in mind that the XVIs were designed to be low end tanks.

Makes a good backup, though. It will probably outlive you!

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And that stick was low end years ago. A low end stick now is still tons better in blade feel than that ever was.

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06-07-2013, 10:16 PM
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i bought that stick back in 2010 for $100, so I must have overpaid, big time.
What would a good low end stick be/cost, for...let's say, bauer, easton, sherwood or warrior.

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i bought that stick back in 2010 for $100, so I must have overpaid, big time.
What would a good low end stick be/cost, for...let's say, bauer, easton, sherwood or warrior.
Bauer Supreme One30 is a decent low end stick. A little heavy but not too bad. If you look for mid level sticks on sale/clearance you can get better value though. Something like the Vapor x40 is relatively light and can be had for about $60 on sale.

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i bought that stick back in 2010 for $100, so I must have overpaid, big time.
What would a good low end stick be/cost, for...let's say, bauer, easton, sherwood or warrior.
maybe. the difference in value at each price point improved greatly from that lineup. I compare the X:40 and X4.0 to something around the XXII and XXV.
the sweet spot for value nowadays is at 100. check out the stick guide for some examples

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i bought that stick back in 2010 for $100, so I must have overpaid, big time.
What would a good low end stick be/cost, for...let's say, bauer, easton, sherwood or warrior.
I have a Sherwood N8 with a Ryan curve. I love it. It's $99.00 and it has a great feel. Not low end and not high end.

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Playing with a XVI is like playing with a slab of cement. I don't recommend buying really expensive sticks until you're sure you know what you want, but keep in mind that the XVIs were designed to be low end tanks.

Makes a good backup, though. It will probably outlive you!
And.... thanks to two stick breakages this week, the XVI is once again my backup.

Man, I hope my Tron 405 lasts a couple of months so I can try to pick up a bargain stick somewhere.

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