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05-30-2013, 04:16 PM
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Alexei Emelin

How do you guys feel about the play of or player Alexei Emelin?
Who does he play with on the blue line?

Edmonton just signed a KHL defence man (Belov) and reports indicate that he is very similar to Emelin.

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How do you guys feel about the play of or player Alexei Emelin?
Who does he play with on the blue line?

Edmonton just signed a KHL defence man (Belov) and reports indicate that he is very similar to Emelin.
Heavy hitter. VERY good at timing hits. Ok defensively and a bit underrated offensive game.

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He was one of our better defensemen this year. Him and Subban were the anchors of our D. This became abundantly clear once Emelin went down.

He played with Markov for a large part of the season.

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How do you guys feel about the play of or player Alexei Emelin?
Who does he play with on the blue line?

Edmonton just signed a KHL defence man (Belov) and reports indicate that he is very similar to Emelin.
From what I understand, they are nothing alike.

Belov is a offensive Dman while Emelin is defensive minded.

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05-30-2013, 04:43 PM
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He was one of our better defensemen this year. Him and Subban were the anchors of our D. This became abundantly clear once Emelin went down.
I like Emelin.. but he wasn't THAT good.

Him and Markov had a lot of difficulties in their defensive game late in the season.

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I like Emelin.. but he wasn't THAT good.

Him and Markov had a lot of difficulties in their defensive game late in the season.
Then your understanding of the game and mine are completely different. Emelin was a key contributor on our defense and probably our second most effective defenseman after Subban.

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I like Emelin.. but he wasn't THAT good.
Yes... he actually was.

He was better than Markov, Gorges, Diaz, Drewiske, Boullion, Kaberle, and Weber. Him and Subban were (In my opinion) the only consistently reliable defensemen.

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Him and Markov had a lot of difficulties in their defensive game late in the season.
Markov was defensive liability. Emelin, was not.

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Once healthy he should:
1)Be on the left side of a pairing
He hits better on that side, it's his natural side, and he would be the ideal partner for Subban, because he is strong, physical, and is very mobile. MB should go out and find a physical guy for Markov, and let Emelin play on the top pairing, he can handle it (especially if he's with Subban)

2)Play on the PP
He should be with Diaz on the second wave. He has so much untapped offensive ability; He's a good passer, skater, and has an accurate point shot which would do wonders for tips and rebounds. It's not like they'll play much anyway with Subban-Markov having the majority of PP time. He has to be better than Gorges or Boullion.

I really like what Emelin brings for us but I think he'd be even more effective if he wasn't the only guy to play the way he does. Adding tinordi helps, but if MB can find another mean Dman, the load will be taken off of him a bit and I think he'd thrive with support.

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From what I understand, they are nothing alike.

Belov is a offensive Dman while Emelin is defensive minded.
Dmitry Chesnokov ‏@dchesnokov 54m
@JasonGregor pretty established. Should be able to fight for a spot right away (similar to Emelin).

Dmitry is a very well plugged in KHL reporter. He suggests that Belov is similar to Emelin, hence me wanting to know how good he is and what MTL fans think of him.

The majority of you guys seem to really like Emelin.

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He seems to suggest that he is as established as Emelin so that, like him, he should be NHL ready. Not necessarily that he plys like him. I'm just guessing though but that's what this reads like to me.

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He's not similar to Emelin. Similar in that he's a prime aged Russian defenceman coming over for the 1st time. That's it.

Belov from the little I remember and reports is that he's a fast-skating (for his size) offensive defenceman despite what his stature implies.

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He seems to suggest that he is as established as Emelin so that, like him, he should be NHL ready. Not necessarily that he plys like him. I'm just guessing though but that's what this reads like to me.
i read it the same way.

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The only thing that's like Emelin is that he's probably NHL ready.

Belov is a 3rd pairing with PP duties type of player. Almost the exact opposite of Emelin.

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He needs to get back on the left side. He was fine on the right but he is not comfortable making open ice hits on the right side. It's blatantly obvious. I though him and Diaz made an okay pair 2 years ago. They'd be an ideal 3rd pairing.

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Dmitry Chesnokov ‏@dchesnokov 54m
@JasonGregor pretty established. Should be able to fight for a spot right away (similar to Emelin).

Dmitry is a very well plugged in KHL reporter. He suggests that Belov is similar to Emelin, hence me wanting to know how good he is and what MTL fans think of him.

The majority of you guys seem to really like Emelin.
He is clearly stating that the similarity is in the fact that he is NHL ready like Emelin was.

They are completely different D-men.

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I like Emelin.. but he wasn't THAT good.

Him and Markov had a lot of difficulties in their defensive game late in the season.
He led the league in body checks until he got injured, Emelin is our best physical player.

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Dmitry Chesnokov ‏@dchesnokov 54m
@JasonGregor pretty established. Should be able to fight for a spot right away (similar to Emelin).

Dmitry is a very well plugged in KHL reporter. He suggests that Belov is similar to Emelin, hence me wanting to know how good he is and what MTL fans think of him.

The majority of you guys seem to really like Emelin.
I think he meant that as in he'll be able to fight for a spot, just like Emelin did, not that they're the same type of player.

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He was one of our better defensemen this year. Him and Subban were the anchors of our D. This became abundantly clear once Emelin went down.

He played with Markov for a large part of the season.
Just no.

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Emelin -Subban
Markov -Gorges
No problem

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Emelin's transition to the NHL wasn't over in an instant. While he did not have to spend time in the AHL he was scratched at time in his first year and it took him a while to adapt. After half a season he really got going however, and was playing even better the next year. Some would argue J. Martin or Cunneyworth could have had him play more in his rookie season but then again, they probably had their reasons.

You can likely expect Belov to have a similar transition, don't expect him to jump in in a key role right away but he'll probably be NHL ready from the get go.

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Emelin -Subban
Markov -Gorges
No problem
Stop. You make too much sense Those are good pairings, I hope Therrien tries them.

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Heavy hitter. VERY good at timing hits. Ok defensively and a bit underrated offensive game.
This sums up Emelin, for me at least.

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Emelin -Subban
Markov -Gorges
No problem
Its too bad Gorges has to go back to his off side but I think that this is the best way to do it with Tinordi - Diaz as the bottom pairing.

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Emelin -Subban
Markov -Gorges
No problem
Emelin - Subban
Markov - Gorges
Tinordi - Diaz
Bouillon - Weber/Drewiske

PMD and DFD on each pair, gotta like that.

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Once healthy he should:
1)Be on the left side of a pairing
He hits better on that side, it's his natural side, and he would be the ideal partner for Subban, because he is strong, physical, and is very mobile. MB should go out and find a physical guy for Markov, and let Emelin play on the top pairing, he can handle it (especially if he's with Subban)

2)Play on the PP
He should be with Diaz on the second wave. He has so much untapped offensive ability; He's a good passer, skater, and has an accurate point shot which would do wonders for tips and rebounds. It's not like they'll play much anyway with Subban-Markov having the majority of PP time. He has to be better than Gorges or Boullion.

I really like what Emelin brings for us but I think he'd be even more effective if he wasn't the only guy to play the way he does. Adding tinordi helps, but if MB can find another mean Dman, the load will be taken off of him a bit and I think he'd thrive with support.
Agree with a lot of this but I don't think him playing his offside is an issue, it really doesn't matter in regards to hitting, he played LD and RD in his first year, actually I rather have Emelin play RD rather than Gorges or Tinordi,because when playing your offside, you are on your backhand more when passing, and Emelin's passing skills are very underrated and better than both Tinordi and Gorges.

His hitting numbers went down last year but that was because he he didn't throw a lot of those hits that would put him out of position like he did in his first year, that's the only problem I would have with a Emelin Subban pair, both like to go for the hit that sometimes leaves them out of position.

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Just no.
Oh yes, that's right! I forgot that Markov, Gorges, Diaz, Boullion, Kaberle, and Weber were all better and more reliable than Emelin this year! Oh yeah, and the team completely didn't crumble when Emelin got hurt. Sorry for that one!

Did you even watch the Habs play this season? Because i'm sure anybody who even moderately paid any attention to them would know that Emelin was one of our better D this year.

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