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05-18-2013, 02:16 PM
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why should the Hawks trade 2 good/better prospects for 1??

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they should see what people will give them for their 1st + Bolland.

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One period into this Halifax-Portland game and I'm officially on the Nic Petan bandwagon. He's only 5'9", but damn is this kid dynamic. He reminds me of Kane out there. He's fast, outstanding hands and he was making plays all over the place, speaking to his vision and hockey sense.

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05-30-2013, 10:32 PM
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the highest we select will be 27?

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05-30-2013, 11:04 PM
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The highest the Hawks can select is 28th, I believe.

The highest seed eliminated in this round (Chicago) picks 28th, Cup champs pick 30th and the runner-ups pick 29th.

Could be wrong, but I believe that's how it works.

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05-30-2013, 11:14 PM
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The highest the Hawks can select is 28th, I believe.

The highest seed eliminated in this round (Chicago) picks 28th, Cup champs pick 30th and the runner-ups pick 29th.

Could be wrong, but I believe that's how it works.
i'll take your word for it...i find the whole thing (for the teams that make the playoffs) confusing.

...i've kept pushing trade proposals on Edmonton...but it was just tonight it occurred to me how late our pick had gotten. I think it would be hard to deal it to move up unless we're given up something impressive...but for the teams who are picking in the top 10, they'll be picking again (i.e. 2nd round) not long after we pick...so will be picking up a similar level player any way.

assuming we do keep the pick, i wouldn't mind Stan just picking the player w/ the highest ceiling irrespective of the risk/downside...any "safe pick" is likely just going to yield the same player who already have in the system several times over.

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05-30-2013, 11:25 PM
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Andre Burakovsky's your man then. Great skater, hands, and shot. Even has a fair bit of size (6'1", 180lbs).

The only problem? He didn't produce as much as scouts expected him to this year. But if you're looking for a homerun pick, it'd be him and he could very well be around at the tail end of the 1st round.

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05-30-2013, 11:55 PM
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Andre Burakovsky's your man then. Great skater, hands, and shot. Even has a fair bit of size (6'1", 180lbs).

The only problem? He didn't produce as much as scouts expected him to this year. But if you're looking for a homerun pick, it'd be him and he could very well be around at the tail end of the 1st round.
...and he's swedish...and we know the Hawks like Swedes.

looking at various draft lists, fucale seems all over the place - if he's still there at 28+ i'm fine if they grab him (although we all know that Fiddy wouldn't approve).

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05-31-2013, 05:10 AM
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the highest we select will be 27?
L against Kings = #28
L against BOS/PIT = #29
Cup Winner = #30

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from the looks of where we will be picking, and seeing how our team lacks that physical size forward (especially if we lose Bickell) I would like to see the Hawks take Michael McCarron from the USNDP.. At 6'5 225lbs the kid has solid hands and decent wheels as well, he literally is a Bickell clone...He takes a few years to develope and continue to get comfortable with that massive frame, but I would love to see Bowman sng up this giant!

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Saw 1 or 2 mocks where Ristolainen went late twenties. Don't think it will happen but he falls we gotta take him. Otherwise Im still kind of interested in Bailey.

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Yeah, trade up for Ristolainen if we can. That would be the perfect pick for this team, big strong D-man.

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05-31-2013, 01:29 PM
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L against Kings = #28
L against BOS/PIT = #29
Cup Winner = #30
no, you forgot to include the cup loser. that team picks 29.

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McCarron I think skates better than Bickell but his stats do not suggest grade A power forward scorer...don't think he can impact a topsix role on the first 2 lines...SO DO you use a first round pick on just a third line guy or role guy? Hard yo bypas all that great D-men talent like Bowey McCoshen,Bigras,Heatherington and Morin all who will be at least 2nd pairing NHL d-men..Bowey can skate like Keith but at neatly 6'2 and 20O can handled guys with the body better...+41 with Kelowna...McCoshen a 2 way like Seabrok at 63...produces points good shot from the point on Pp good hockey sense...Bigras solid and physical...probably more SAH type. ..Heatherington impressed at the U-18s boosted his stocl as scouts did not buzz on him early due to injury but came on when he got back in play amd rose up the charts. ..big upside at 6'4 196 and can skate...just a bit of catching up to do in his development but could be a steal because hebis just scratching the surface of what he could become...Morin at 6'6 is another with an upside wr don't know yet where it will playeau...You know whay ypu are hetting woth Bowey McCoshen and Bigras...all pretty solid in thrir own styles and abiloty but with Healtherington and Morin they are not yet as advanced but the talent is there andtjat huge size sucj that once they caycj up on the lrarning curve of figuring put the game better you cpuld have very special D men but theu are too good talent wise to bust so not projecyd merely a bit less advamced in my view...It would hatd to bypass any of thrse D-men for just a Bickell clone...exceptt faster...
OR hard to bypas a potentisl franchise goalie which O think Tristan Jarry may become...I think he is the best goalie of this draft...I also like Phillipe Desrosiers who is my 2nd tated goalie..Avoid Zach Fucale...overhyped IMO...yes he is a workhorse bit O dp mot thonl hr id yhay gppd dtopping pucks...out of redpect fpr thr cpnsendid draft rayongs putting him as the top goalie in the draft I wpn't drop him below 5th on My goalie rankings but every gut feeling says Avoid...so if the Hawks tale him I predict he will Bust...If the Hawks bypass Jarry or Desrosiers to take Fucale they are somply nuts.. IF THE HAWKS GO FORWARD then either McCarrom for a role or a kid who impressed.me for Canada at theU-18s..Nick Baptiste..I know Central Scoutong only had him at #61 NA skater but thay is nuts after how he petformed at the U-18s..6'2 OVER 200 lbs already but a baby of this draft with an AUH birthdate..lotsof upside time on the development curve to come..could be a steal..good 2 way player already..works hatd...his upside tome is better thanMcCarrons and I think more talent..still for what he has in that big body size, a role guy like McCarron is a need but i do not yhonk he is the BPA over Baptiste.
Anyway...deep draft lots of ways Stan can go...we cannot get them all..But maube Stan trades a player to get us snother first rounder...depends when that pick is as to what we then take with our own pick if wr have it still...

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05-31-2013, 02:50 PM
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no, you forgot to include the cup loser. that team picks 29.
That'd be us in his scenarios

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That'd be us in his scenarios
oh, i see now. sorry.

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tsn is airing its combine special right now.

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Wont we move up a pick, or does NJ not have to forfeit it until next year?

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Wont we move up a pick, or does NJ not have to forfeit it until next year?
no later than next year...so they can forfeit it this year if they want...or next year.

they probably will do it next year b/c they have a high-ish pick this year.

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from the looks of where we will be picking, and seeing how our team lacks that physical size forward (especially if we lose Bickell) I would like to see the Hawks take Michael McCarron from the USNDP.. At 6'5 225lbs the kid has solid hands and decent wheels as well, he literally is a Bickell clone...He takes a few years to develope and continue to get comfortable with that massive frame, but I would love to see Bowman sng up this giant!
There are some guys I like more than McCarron, but I wouldn't mind that pick. It sounds like he could be headed to London too, so I'll get to see a lot of him.

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06-01-2013, 03:32 AM
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I still like the idea of getting Compher, trading up with our pick + Bolland or hope for a guy to fall a bit to us like Ristolainen or Wennberg

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no later than next year...so they can forfeit it this year if they want...or next year.

they probably will do it next year b/c they have a high-ish pick this year.
And the draft is in New Jersey this year. It will definitely be next year. They're morons for not forfeiting it last summer when it was 29th.

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I heard an interesting comment recently (on TSN) quoting a scout. Words to the effective that this draft class is the strongest he's seen, possibly ever, and picks 10 thru 40 are all pretty much the same caliber of talent, depending on what a team is looking for. Dam, I wish Hawks had kept that 2nd or 3rd rounder. There's bound to be some pretty good players available in those slots.

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I heard an interesting comment recently (on TSN) quoting a scout. Words to the effective that this draft class is the strongest he's seen, possibly ever, and picks 10 thru 40 are all pretty much the same caliber of talent, depending on what a team is looking for. Dam, I wish Hawks had kept that 2nd or 3rd rounder. There's bound to be some pretty good players available in those slots.
Still might trade to get those picks back. Or one of them at least.

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I heard an interesting comment recently (on TSN) quoting a scout. Words to the effective that this draft class is the strongest he's seen, possibly ever, and picks 10 thru 40 are all pretty much the same caliber of talent, depending on what a team is looking for. Dam, I wish Hawks had kept that 2nd or 3rd rounder. There's bound to be some pretty good players available in those slots.
Chicago can recoup a pick in the off-season if they trade anyone.. and if not, that's fine. You can trade picks when you have a system like Chicago's.

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