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06-01-2013, 10:00 AM
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Under the premise Burns is moved back to D? Otherwise he fills that need.
Thats what i'm assuming.

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And please get some kids that will shoot the puck more than pass!

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And please get some kids that will shoot the puck more than pass!
And then after moving Clowe. Buying Havlat out. Thornton being traded for Steve Ott. We will have a top 6 full of shoot first guys, who hit the goalie in the chest!

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06-01-2013, 10:53 AM
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And then after moving Clowe. Buying Havlat out. Thornton being traded for Steve Ott. We will have a top 6 full of shoot first guys, who hit the goalie in the chest!
At least they'd be shooting.

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I have a LONG list of players I really like...this is a really, really strong draft.

I have very little doubt that DW will move at least 1 of their 2nd round picks either in a trade for a player or to trade up so I have no idea where the Sharks might end up drafting.

Anyhow, the players I'm interested both in the 1st and 2nd rounds are Erne, De la Rose, Zykov, Compher, Dickinson, Duclair, Gauthier, Klimchuk, Rychel.

I also like McCoshen, Heatherington & Morin and figure if the Sharks use two of their 2nd round picks one will be on a defenseman.

There's more players I could list here but again, I have no idea where they'll be drafting. If they move up I'd really love Horvat, Burakowsky or Shinkaruk. I'm also a huge fan of Domi but I don't see him staying on the board for very long.

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Under the premise Burns is moved back to D? Otherwise he fills that need.
Erne is a player you would take anyway IMO.

From what I've seen and read, he is a great skater, he is physical, has a good two way game, has a very good shot, good to very good hands, and strong. He can make plays too. Can't have enough of these types of players.

He reminds me of TJ Oshie. He is bigger and a better shooter than Oshie though.

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Sharks need some RW's in a big way, especially if Havlat isn't on the team next year. But using the draft to fill that need right away is a tall order.

Erne sounds like a good fit. Wilson needs to do his due diligence and investigate the character concerns though.

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I would like Ryan Hartman.

From the limited play I have seen he is good defensively and hits everything.

Also love having Sharks prospects playing for team USA at the WJC.
We need someone with more upside than Hartman. He seems like a lock to be a 3rd or 4th liner, and if you get really lucky might top out as a 2nd liner.

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I have a LONG list of players I really like...this is a really, really strong draft.

I have very little doubt that DW will move at least 1 of their 2nd round picks either in a trade for a player or to trade up so I have no idea where the Sharks might end up drafting.

Anyhow, the players I'm interested both in the 1st and 2nd rounds are Erne, De la Rose, Zykov, Compher, Dickinson, Duclair, Gauthier, Klimchuk, Rychel.

I also like McCoshen, Heatherington & Morin and figure if the Sharks use two of their 2nd round picks one will be on a defenseman.

There's more players I could list here but again, I have no idea where they'll be drafting. If they move up I'd really love Horvat, Burakowsky or Shinkaruk. I'm also a huge fan of Domi but I don't see him staying on the board for very long.
I like all the forwards you mentioned with exception to Gauthier and Rychel. Rychel just gives off a strange vibe to me, don't ask me to explain it, although admittedly I only caught one of his CHL games so I'm no expert. And Gauthier, I just don't think he has much offensive upside to him, although I'd love to hear your thoughts.

I also really, really like McCoshen and Heatherington. Heatherington reminds me a ton of Vlasic, and McCoshen reminds me of Ryan McDonagh. I know I'm generally against picking defensemen in the first two rounds, but those two and Madison Bowey are three guys I'd be okay with in the second round. Hate Sam Morin though.

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Erne is a player you would take anyway IMO.

From what I've seen and read, he is a great skater, he is physical, has a good two way game, has a very good shot, good to very good hands, and strong. He can make plays too. Can't have enough of these types of players.

He reminds me of TJ Oshie. He is bigger and a better shooter than Oshie though.
Erne will never touch Oshie's defensive play.

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06-01-2013, 12:50 PM
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I would like Ryan Hartman.

From the limited play I have seen he is good defensively and hits everything.

Also love having Sharks prospects playing for team USA at the WJC.
Yes!

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Yes!
Adam Erne's American and a much better player and a lock for Team USA...

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Adam Erne's American and a much better player and a lock for Team USA...
We could easily take both with our number of picks in the 1st & 2nd round.

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Adam Erne's American and a much better player and a lock for Team USA...
I have a feeling Danny O'Regan will be on team USA next year and yes, Erne's the better player.

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We need someone with more upside than Hartman. He seems like a lock to be a 3rd or 4th liner, and if you get really lucky might top out as a 2nd liner.



I like all the forwards you mentioned with exception to Gauthier and Rychel. Rychel just gives off a strange vibe to me, don't ask me to explain it, although admittedly I only caught one of his CHL games so I'm no expert. And Gauthier, I just don't think he has much offensive upside to him, although I'd love to hear your thoughts.

I also really, really like McCoshen and Heatherington. Heatherington reminds me a ton of Vlasic, and McCoshen reminds me of Ryan McDonagh. I know I'm generally against picking defensemen in the first two rounds, but those two and Madison Bowey are three guys I'd be okay with in the second round. Hate Sam Morin though.
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I don't think Bowey will be around in the 2nd round but I really like him too.

Gauthier's usage this season could be why his offensive upside seems questionable. He went up against the other teams top players, lots of D-zone draws, etc. His size, skating, hands, hockey sense are all very good. Taking him at 20 might be a little bit of a reach but I really like his game.

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Here was the Moderator 2 round draft (Nem was our main GM, I gave an opinion or two)


1- Colorado: Seth Jones, D, Portland Winter Hawks WHL
2- Florida: Nathan MacKinnon, C, Halifax Mooseheads QMJHL
3- Tampa Bay: Jonathon Drouin, LW/C, Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL
4- Nashville: Aleksander Barkov, C, Tappara, SM-Liiga
5- Carolina: Sean Monahan, C, Ottawa, OHL
6- Calgary: Elias Lindholm, C, Brynäs, Elitserien
7- Edmonton: Darnell Nurse, D, Sault Ste. Marie, OHL
8- Buffalo: Rasmus Ristolainen, D, TPS, SM-Liiga
9- New Jersey: Hunter Shinkaruk, LW/C, Medicine Hat, WHL
10- Dallas: Valeri Nichushkin, F, Dynamo Moscow, KHL
11- Philadephia: Ryan Pulock, D, Brandon, WHL
12- Phoenix: Max Domi, C, London, OHL
13- Winnipeg: Frederik Gauthier, C Rimouski, QMJHL
14- Columbus: Anthony Mantha, LW, Val d'Or, QMJHL
15- NY Islanders: Curtis Lazar, C, Edmonton, WHL
16- Buffalo: Nikita Zadarov, D, London, OHL
17- Ottawa: Robert Hagg, D, Modo, SEL
18- Detroit: Samuel Morin, D, Rimouski, QMJHL
19- Columbus: Ryan Hartman, F, Plymouth, OHL
20- San Jose: Bo Horvat, C, London, OHL
21- Washington: Alexander Wennberg, C/LW, Djurgarden, SEL
22- Toronto: Kerby Rychel, LW, Windsor, OHL
23- Vancouver: Josh Morrissey, D, Prince Albert, WHL
24- Columbus: Arturri Lehkonen, RW, KalPa Kuopio, SM-Liiga
25- Calgary: Zachary Fucale, G, Halifax, QMJHL
26- Boston: Steve Santini, D, New York, EJHL
27- Montreal: Valentin Zykov, RW, Baie-Commeau, QMJHL
28- Anaheim: Andre Burakovsky, LW, Malmö, SEL
29- Calgary: Adam Erne, RW, Quebec, QMJHL
30- Chicago: John Hayden, C, US-Under 18, USHL

31- Florida: Ian McCoshen, D, Waterloo, USHL
32- Colorado: Nic Petan, C, Portland, WHL
33- Tampa: Mirco Müller, D, Everett, WHL
34- Montreal: J.T. Compher, C, UNTDP, USHL
35- Carolina: Shea Theodore, D, Seattle, WHL
36- Montreal: Michael McCarron, RW, UNTDP, USHL
37- Edmonton: Zack Nastasiuk, RW, Owen Sound, OHL
38- Buffalo: William Carrier, LW, Cape Breton, QMJHL
39- New Jersey: Chris Bigras, D, Owen Sound, OHL
40- Dallas: Madison Bowey, D, Kelowna, WHL
41- Philadelphia: Dillon Heatherington, D, Swift Current, WHL
42- Phoenix: Morgan Klimchuk, C, Regina, WHL
43- Winnipeg: Connor Hurley, C, Edina, USHS
44- Columbus: Linus Arnesson, D, Djurgårdens, SEL
45- Anaheim: Tommy Vannelli, D, USTDP, USHL
46- Minnesota: Brett Pesce, D, UNH, NCAA
47- St. Louis: Jason Dickinson, LW/C, Guelph, OHL
48- Detroit: Marko Dano, C/RW, Slovan Bratislava, KHL
49- San Jose: Marc-Olivier Roy, C, Blainville-Boisbriand, QMJHL
50- San Jose: Anthony Duclair, LW, Quebec, QMJHL

51- Washington: Jimmy Lodge, C/W, Saginaw, OHL
52- Toronto: Laurent Dauphin, C, Chicoutimi, QMJHL
53- Dallas: Jacob De La Rose, F, Leksand, SEL
54- LA: Keaton Thompson, D, USNDTP, USHL
55- Buffalo: Emile Poirier, LW, Gatineau, QMJHL
56- Dallas: Tristan Jarry, G, Edmonton, WHL
57- Montreal: Justin Bailey, C/RW, Kitchener, OHL
58- Edmonton: Nicholas Baptiste, RW, Sudbury, OHL
59- Winnipeg (Compensatory): Pavel Buchnevich, C, Cherepovets, MHL
60- San Jose: Zach Sanford, LW, Middlesex, EJHL
61- Winnipeg: Eric Roy, D, Brandon, WHL

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We need someone with more upside than Hartman. He seems like a lock to be a 3rd or 4th liner, and if you get really lucky might top out as a 2nd liner.

I agree his potential does not seem as high as the others. But the way he plays I would hope he turns into a Ryan Callahan someone who is a 2nd liner that can lead the team and play defensively.

He just really stood out at the WJC to me. Also the Cherry vs Orr game.

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Here was the Moderator 2 round draft (Nem was our main GM, I gave an opinion or two)
I just don't see Horvat dropping to 20 and I'd 100% take Burakowsky over him if both were available.

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I don't think Bowey will be around in the 2nd round but I really like him too.

Gauthier's usage this season could be why his offensive upside seems questionable. He went up against the other teams top players, lots of D-zone draws, etc. His size, skating, hands, hockey sense are all very good. Taking him at 20 might be a little bit of a reach but I really like his game.
Yeah, I think Bowey could rise. I see a ton of potential in him.

I have no doubt that Gauthier was used that way, but even then you usually see a flash of offensive potential at least. At the U18's, he didn't show anything offensively at all, which is what worries me. I think his creativity and vision is limited.

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Would it be worth trading down and collecting more picks?

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Erne will never touch Oshie's defensive play.
Yeah, probably not.

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Would it be worth trading down and collecting more picks?
I don't think so. They can get a very good player at 20 in this draft.

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Would you guys wanna do a Sharks board mock draft? Noticed the CBJ board doing one and thought it would be cool. Theirs had them picking Bo Horvat at 14.

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What is the lowest pick that would be a top six NHL ready forward? Any?

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3rd pick imho

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What is the lowest pick that would be a top six NHL ready forward? Any?
There are several forwards in this draft that might be able to step right into an NHL lineup but I doubt the Sharks will be drafting one of them.

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What is the lowest pick that would be a top six NHL ready forward? Any?
In my opinion, Mackinnon is the only lock to be playing in the NHL next season (besides Jones). However, it wouldn't be surprising to me to see Drouin, Nichushkin, Barkov, and or Monahan in the NHL next season, the latter two in a Couturier role.

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