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06-01-2013, 10:44 PM
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if you don't improve the team (and trading current players for "futures" is not doing that), you're basically giving hank every reason to walk out the door next off season.
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06-01-2013, 10:46 PM
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If you don't improve the team (and trading current players for "futures" is not doing that), you're basically giving Hank every reason to walk out the door next off season.
Signing Horton improves the team...giving him 6 or 7 mil, while improving the team in the short term KILLS them long term.

Hortons a good player, not worth more than 4-4.5 mil.

Henriks not leaving. If hes prepared to leave you can get a kings randsom for him at the deadline.

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Signing Horton improves the team...giving him 6 or 7 mil, while improving the team in the short term KILLS them long term.

Hortons a good player, not worth more than 4-4.5 mil.

Henriks not leaving. If hes prepared to leave you can get a kings randsom for him at the deadline.
I'm not saying Horton necessarily.. I'm saying improve the team period.

kings ransom or not, if we lose him we're screwed.

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Uh, sure.

Buffalo would have to be insane to make that trade.
with that idiot Regier in charge anything with Buff is possible.

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with that idiot Regier in charge anything with Buff is possible.
Regier is far from an idiot. Please do not just say things...

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Some info to help you be The GM

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013 Status Team Drafted
1 D McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) $1,300,000* RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2 D Sauer, Michael (LTIR) $1,250,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #40 NYR (2005)
3 F Stepan, Derek (ELC) $875,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHLR2 #51 NYR (2008)
4 F Hagelin, Carl (ELC) $875,000* RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007)
5 F Zuccarello, Mats $700,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
6 F Ferriero, Benn $700,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
7 D Pyett, Logan $600,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
8 F Palmieri, Nick $577,500 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
9 F Mashinter, Brandon $550,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted


UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013 Status Team Drafted
1 F Clowe, Ryan $3,625,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
2 D Hamrlik, Roman $3,500,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Washington (1992)
3 D Eminger, Steve $750,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Washington (2002)
4 D Gilroy, Matt $650,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
5 D Collins, Sean $600,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
6 F Segal, Brandon $550,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
7 D Vernace, Mike $525,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #201 San Jose (2004)

TRADE GUIDELINE
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (39)

NEW YORK RANGERS (17)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
2 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
3 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
4 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
5 G Lundqvist, Henrik $6,875,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)
6 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
7 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
8 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
9 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
10 F Pyatt, Taylor $1,550,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
11 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
12 G Biron, Martin $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
13 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
14 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
15 F Dorsett, Derek $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
16 F Nash, Rick (NMC) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
17 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (22)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
18 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
19 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009)
20 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHLUndrafted
21 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #140 NYR (2009)
22 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #130 NYR (2010)
23 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
24 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
25 F Newbury, Kris $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
26 D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2015Connecticut Whale/AHLUndrafted
27 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHLR1 #10 NYR (2010)
28 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #15 NYR (2011)
29 F Thomas, Christian (ELC) $970,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R2 #40 NYR (2010)
30 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHLR6 #157 NYR (2010)
31 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000 RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010)
32 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015 Playing for Team Sweden at WC R2 #57 PHX (2010)
33 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
34 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
35 D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333 RFA 2016London Knights/OHLUndrafted
36 F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167* RFA 2016 Saskatoon Blades/WHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
37 F St. Croix, M. (ELC) $665,000 RFA 2016 Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL R4 #106 NYR (2011)
38 D Noreau, Samuel (ELC) $645,000 RFA 2016Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ R5 #136 NYR(2011)
39 F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $583,333 RFA 2016 Sudbury Wolves/OHLUndrafted

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are a few more here I believe)
Pos PlayerTeam Drafted
D Pashnin, Mikhail HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA R3 #72 NYR (2011)
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/CCHA R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D Andersson, Calle Malmö /HA R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F Spelling, Thomas Oskarshamn/HA R5 #142 NYR(2012)

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013
  • #65 - 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
  • #75 - 3rd round Columbus (acquired in Nash trade)
  • #80 - 3rd round NYR
  • #110 - 4th round NYR
  • #170 - 6th round NYR
  • NO 1st rounder - #19 - (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
  • NO 2nd rounder - #49 (traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013)
  • NO 5th rounder - #140 - (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
  • NO 7th rounder - #200 - (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)
  • NYR Draft picks in 2014
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR*
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR*
  • 6th round NYR
  • 6th round Columbus (for Marian Gaborik)
  • 7th round NYR**
  • * - Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th - round pick to San Jose in 2014 if this condition is not met.)
  • ** - Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)


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06-02-2013, 04:26 AM
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Regier is far from an idiot. Please do not just say things...
>Tyler Myers' contract that paid him 12 mill last year
>Christian Ehrhoff (while a good player)'s ridiculous contract.
>Ville Leino's contract
>Starting out his BUF tenor very well, worse every year. Haven't been a serious contender since Drury, Afinogenov, and Briere were the team.
>Good scout, but not good at anything else.

He might not be an idiot but he is a very dumb GM.

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06-02-2013, 05:12 AM
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>Tyler Myers' contract that paid him 12 mill last year
>Christian Ehrhoff (while a good player)'s ridiculous contract.
>Ville Leino's contract
>Starting out his BUF tenor very well, worse every year. Haven't been a serious contender since Drury, Afinogenov, and Briere were the team.
>Good scout, but not good at anything else.

He might not be an idiot but he is a very dumb GM.
Myers was paid $12M as a huge signing bonus of $10M. That's Pegula money talking and wanting to lock-up their (supposed) franchise defenseman for a long time at a very reasonable cap hit of $5.5M. That Myers regressed couldn't have been foreseen, and I still think he'll turn things around and be worth his cap. He's not right now. It was a smart move to make and helped show their new identity, that they were committed to spending and doing what it took to become an ideal destination. To be relevant. Ehrhoff (along with Regehr) were also part of that. Hoff's contract is way too long, definitely, but that's what it took to get him to Buffalo. He's been great for them so far and he has a few good years left I believe. His cap hit is small for what he brings to the table. Leino is just a mystery. That was silly. He'll be bought out I'm sure... and maybe Ehrhoff as well due to the length of the contract with the new CBA rules.

Either way, Regier isn't an idiot. He's a GM who has made a few mistakes here and there (like they all have...) but nothing massively crippling to the team.

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06-02-2013, 06:30 AM
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Putting a tall, scrawny, 18-year-old kid on your blueline smacks of stupidity to me. Resting your hopes on that same kid at age 19-20 also smacks of stupidity.

It's no surprise Myers regressed. He should've had at one more year in junior to bulk up at the very least. He was an accident waiting to happen, and when it did, say bye-bye to his confidence.

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06-02-2013, 08:37 AM
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Putting a tall, scrawny, 18-year-old kid on your blueline smacks of stupidity to me. Resting your hopes on that same kid at age 19-20 also smacks of stupidity.

It's no surprise Myers regressed. He should've had at one more year in junior to bulk up at the very least. He was an accident waiting to happen, and when it did, say bye-bye to his confidence.
Putting a capable player in your lineup "smacks of stupidity" ? I call it invaluable experience at the highest level... Did you watch him play? Seriously, I'd stick Myers in my bottom four then, now whenever. .. Let's not exaggerate..

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>Tyler Myers' contract that paid him 12 mill last year
>Christian Ehrhoff (while a good player)'s ridiculous contract.
>Ville Leino's contract
>Starting out his BUF tenor very well, worse every year. Haven't been a serious contender since Drury, Afinogenov, and Briere were the team.
>Good scout, but not good at anything else.

He might not be an idiot but he is a very dumb GM.
that is one reason i suggested that trade

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Not sure why Maloney thinks they need help on the blue line.

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I like this for the most part. Couple of notes:

- Asham is under contract for another season.
- Vigneault would be my second choice, but I'd be content with him — Eakins is my #1
1) Damn. I don't know. Doubt another team will take him. He could be 13th/14th forward for the first half of the season.
2) I don't know much about Eakins. What I do know is that we need experience. Eakins could turn out to be a stud in the NHL, I don't know. We were 1 step away from Stanley Cup last year. We have the pieces. When the team was energized and healthy this year, it was incredibly hard to beat them this year. Thing is (and part of why Torts probably got the boot) is that he couldn't motivate them anymore. You need experience in that room, Eakins has none in the NHL. He's a guy you bring in when your team is up and coming/rebuilding, not a guy you risk your franchise and shot at the SC (only legit one since '94).

Vigneault, i'm split on Tippet and Ruff. Would love Laviolette if he's fired.

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Free agents suck. The Rangers have been down that road before.

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Free agents suck. The Rangers have been down that road before.
THIS! I am sick of seeing us overspend on weak FA's that are not worth the value they are signed for.

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Rangers need more size down the middle


how about Zack Smith to NYR for Michael St. Croix, 3rd (Fla)

Rangers need to upgrade their 4th line... i wonder if some Rangers fans notice that.. there is a reason the past 2 years the 4th lines from other teams made the Rangers look horrible..

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I like Horton. ..4 yrs @ 4.5 (75) per. Should Boston win the cup, his price will increase. .. Go Pens!!! lol

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Rangers need more size down the middle


how about Zack Smith to NYR for Michael St. Croix, 3rd (Fla)

Rangers need to upgrade their 4th line... i wonder if some Rangers fans notice that.. there is a reason the past 2 years the 4th lines from other teams made the Rangers look horrible..
I'd do it for sure. Zack Smith is pretty good.

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I'd do it for sure. Zack Smith is pretty good.
provides grit toughness younger than Boyle.. Rangers can shop Boyle for more depth or move him to the wing... Rangers need to upgrade their bottom lines. trading for Dorsett helped a little.. personally id start Lindberg on the 3rd with Boyle on the wing.. Boyle plays better on the wing.. let him take the important faceoffs...

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I like Horton. ..4 yrs @ 4.5 (75) per. Should Boston win the cup, his price will increase. .. Go Pens!!! lol
maybe he stays on the Bruins.. he has good history there. i can see him flopping as an UFA. he fits well on that team.. if i was him, id stay on a winning franchise.

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provides grit toughness younger than Boyle.. Rangers can shop Boyle for more depth or move him to the wing... Rangers need to upgrade their bottom lines. trading for Dorsett helped a little.. personally id start Lindberg on the 3rd with Boyle on the wing.. Boyle plays better on the wing.. let him take the important faceoffs...
Only problem is, we traded our FLA 3rd in a package of picks for Ryane Clowe.

If we get Zack Smith, I expect him to center the 3rd line.

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maybe he stays on the Bruins.. he has good history there. i can see him flopping as an UFA. he fits well on that team.. if i was him, id stay on a winning franchise.
According to capgeek, the Bruins have some cap issues this off season: 17 $64,300,000 $58,379,643 $737,500 $6,657,857
http://www.capgeek.com/bruins/cap-calculator/

17 roster players and 6.66 to spend. Rask is an RFA and Horton, Ference and Khodobin as UFA.

Rask and Horton easily bust that 6.66.

That said, that total amount of 58.3 includes the LTIR of Savard.

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and how do you expect we better the team then??

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and how do you expect we better the team then??
Trades and Drafting, was that not obvious?

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