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06-02-2013, 06:50 PM
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The Post article from today actually mentioned something about timing. Then again, it's not definite... more like speculation.



http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...iEiFPWJZAPHl5I
To me, that little tidbit (that they are going to wait until late June) is a smokescreen--they have to make a number of decisions regarding the roster before then, starting with what to do about Richards. If they wait to the end of the month before even making a decision on a coach, that means he'll get no imput into a number of important decisions.

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06-02-2013, 06:51 PM
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To me, that little tidbit (that they are going to wait until late June) is a smokescreen--they have to make a number of decisions regarding the roster before then, starting with what to do about Richards. If they wait to the end of the month before even making a decision on a coach, that means he'll get no imput into a number of important decisions.
The reality is "what to do about Richards" is a business decision, not a coaching decision. He'll be bought out because not doing so is potentially catastrophic.

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06-02-2013, 07:03 PM
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He has to die eventually...so yeah, nothing is forever.

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Oh god I would hate it if this team hired AV, but still better than Messier.
Whys that, just curious.

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06-02-2013, 07:10 PM
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Whys that, just curious.
The defensive system would change. The Canucks don't block many shots. I'll give him that.

Offensively, he's Torts without the attitude. Same dump and don't chase ****ing useless nonsense we're trying to move away from. If not for the Sedins I don't think that team would ever score, and we have nothing even close to the Sedins.

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The reality is "what to do about Richards" is a business decision, not a coaching decision. He'll be bought out because not doing so is potentially catastrophic.
You might want to check Brook's column in the Post today.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_...7pqeHqYi3ZehIP

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06-02-2013, 07:23 PM
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What worries me is the Sedin factor, more than their PO record.

They gloat and brag about a bunch of players in Vancouver, guys like Bieksa, Edler, Sami Salo, Kesler and co, and many others over the years, have supposedly been the best in the league. But from my point of view, they are an extreme top line team. The Sedins won concecutive Art Ross Trophy's lately. They are spending a ton of ice time in the attacking zone, every night, no matter who they play against. And I can guarantee you that the Sedin's basically aren't coached. They do their thing, and would do it with every single coach in this league or the AHL.

So AV has basically only coached the 2nd to 4th line in Van. More or less atleast.
valid point but at the same time, i think the majority of torts detractors would argue that he would still have a job if he let top end players like nash and gaborik 'do their thing' instead of trying to force them to play the same game that brian boyle does.

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The defensive system would change. The Canucks don't block many shots. I'll give him that.

Offensively, he's Torts without the attitude. Same dump and don't chase ****ing useless nonsense we're trying to move away from. If not for the Sedins I don't think that team would ever score, and we have nothing even close to the Sedins.
This.

Whenever I watched the Canucks, the only line that has consistently impressed me if the Sedin line. No other line kept any sort of pressure.

Give me Eakins. Maybe Boucher. Tippett and Babcock would obviously be preferable, but they don't look very realistic. No Ruff/AV/Maurice/Wilson.

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You might want to check Brook's column in the Post today.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_...7pqeHqYi3ZehIP
Brad Richards, who still is far more likely to be an amnesty buyout later this month than a candidate for the club’s first-line center slot when camp convenes in September.

Of course there's always a chance...but it's still unlikely he's back. Just too much potential
for crippling the team if he happens to get injured. He'll play elsewhere next season.

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Gretzky wasn't a good coach. The Rangers aren't exactly in a position to take a gamble.
Not saying I want to see Gretzky as coach, but a lot of coaches are failures in their first opportunity. Some even in their second and third tries. And then it all falls into place.

I would rather they try someone new though, then the typical retreads. I know trottier didn't work, but that should have no bearing on the decision.

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Of the four names in the title, I only want one of them (Eakins).

I'm frightened.

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The defensive system would change. The Canucks don't block many shots. I'll give him that.

Offensively, he's Torts without the attitude. Same dump and don't chase ****ing useless nonsense we're trying to move away from. If not for the Sedins I don't think that team would ever score, and we have nothing even close to the Sedins.
Our offensive system actually's isn't that bad. The problem is that we spend most of the game in our own zone. They actually score at a quiet a good rate for how little time they attack every game

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06-02-2013, 08:37 PM
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If we hire Messier or Gretzky, I will seriously reconsider being a Ranger fan. Gretz sucked in Phoenix and Mess has ZERO coaching experience.

Let them replace Gernander for all I care, but keep them away from the big club.
I hear what you're saying, but you know and I know that would last for maybe one period. You're a ranger fan and you will be back.

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I hear what you're saying, but you know and I know that would last for maybe one period. You're a ranger fan and you will be back.
Yeah I know, I was exaggerating, but I'd still probably cry in a corner if one of them is hired.

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This.

Whenever I watched the Canucks, the only line that has consistently impressed me if the Sedin line. No other line kept any sort of pressure.

Give me Eakins. Maybe Boucher. Tippett and Babcock would obviously be preferable, but they don't look very realistic. No Ruff/AV/Maurice/Wilson.
AV grudges hard too. Neglects rookies/youngins.

Dishonoring his family.

Give me Eakins or give me death...or Tippet or Babcock or Boucher...they'd be okay tioo

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Not saying I want to see Gretzky as coach, but a lot of coaches are failures in their first opportunity. Some even in their second and third tries. And then it all falls into place.

I would rather they try someone new though, then the typical retreads. I know trottier didn't work, but that should have no bearing on the decision.
I watched Gretzky coach in Phoenix for four years. You could harshly say he had one year of experience repeated four times. That's a little strong becasue I did see some growth but he did not flourish and the talent wasn't 25 points different the next year. Part of that was coaching underachievement and part was overachievement by Tippett.

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From Zipay:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...from-1.5387616

Eakins as an assistant? I'm thinking he'll get better offers.

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tsn.ca/nhl Insider trading video from yesterday.
I also saw Dreger on there yesterday. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he say all of that was just his best guess? I wasn't really paying attention. I remember the Rangers were picked to go with Vigneault, I think Dallas with Ruff, and Maurice and Eakins were both considered possibilities for both Edmonton and I think Vancouver. Can't remember.

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Dreger's best guesses:

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Of the four names in the title, I only want one of them (Eakins).

I'm frightened.
what makes you want eakins?

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Yea, that post made zero sense.
I think he meant, that when the music stops, there will be candidates (quite a few) that still wouldn't have jobs... When there's so few openings but a bunch if candidates... U dont have to "lure" anyone.

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Can anyone who knows Tippets style give me a brief rundown on the game he plays?

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Maurice is such a funny looking ****. My dad would have a field day with him. Hope we hire him just for teh lulz.

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