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06-01-2013, 06:27 PM
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If that's true he should've been traded.
Trade a prospect for what? He was unproven and who knows how many years before he gets a sniff of the NHL? If he opts to go back into the draft, don't the Jets get a consolation pick in response to that?

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06-01-2013, 06:27 PM
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Weird situation. We have three options:

a) we signed him but it's not official yet (for whatever reason)
b) we wanted to sign him but he doesn't want to be part of the franchise
c) we didn't sign him because we chose not to (no idea why)

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06-01-2013, 06:29 PM
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Trade a prospect for what? He was unproven and who knows how many years before he gets a sniff of the NHL?
A pick. Any pick. 5th rounder for all I care

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If he opts to go back into the draft, don't the Jets get a consolation pick in response to that?
Only 1st rounders. You get a compensation pick in the same position a full round lower.

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06-01-2013, 06:37 PM
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If memory serves me correct, the Coyotes traded Jared Staal to Carolina just before the signing deadline and got a pick in return. So it wouldn't be unprecedented if the Jets traded Yuen for a pick.

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Until Pronman tweets we didn't sign him, I'm taking it easy. He's tweeting a bunch of unsigned prospects right now.

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06-01-2013, 06:44 PM
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What the **** do you think I'm talking about?!
Why in the hell would I be mad about signing a nothing prospect? Meh. Maybe he becomes something who knows.

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06-01-2013, 07:05 PM
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And there we have it:

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I was waiting on this one to be sure. Winnipeg did not sign 2011 4th round pick D Zach Yuen. Think he will certainly be picked as a re draft

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Yuen's name is no longer listed on the team's prospect list...

http://jets.nhl.com/club/roster.htm?type=prospect


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I honestly don't care either way.

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Yuen's name is no longer listed on the team's prospect list...

http://jets.nhl.com/club/roster.htm?type=prospect

That was quick haha

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06-01-2013, 07:15 PM
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really it's not an end of the world deal but it doesn't seem logical to me

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Will we get an explanation for this decision from TNSE do you think? Or will this remain a mystery?

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Is he right handed or left handed? If its right, not signing him makes more sense to me

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06-01-2013, 08:33 PM
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Will we get an explanation for this decision from TNSE do you think? Or will this remain a mystery?
If we do, I'd be very surprised if there was any decent insight into it.

This will all become somewhat clearer come draft day. If he goes undrafted or in the 7th round, meh, no big deal. Just another prospect we parted ways with. If he goes around where he did in 2011, then the explanation will have been made for us. Yuen clearly did have some trade value, and the Jets front office lost sight of that.

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06-01-2013, 08:33 PM
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Is he right handed or left handed? If its right, not signing him makes more sense to me
LH.

Very curious, this. It'll be interesting to see if the media will delve into this at all, and if Chevy will discuss the non-signing.

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06-02-2013, 01:36 AM
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It's a good thing we traded up to be able to get this kid...sheesh.

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LH.

Very curious, this. It'll be interesting to see if the media will delve into this at all, and if Chevy will discuss the non-signing.
I don't anticipate we will hear much. Probably won't get much more than a dismissal of the issue by Rick and Gary.

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06-02-2013, 05:54 AM
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It's a good thing we traded up to be able to get this kid...sheesh.
yes, because we all know the draft and drafting slots is highly correlated to guaranteed NHL success - especially when you are looking at picks after the 1st round

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06-02-2013, 10:23 AM
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The sky is falling .....The sky is falling........ The sky is falling........... Yes I think we should have signed Yeun . I have been following him since we drafted him, I liked his plus/minus +40 stat 2 yrs ago but that tailed off this year when his team was no longer such an offensive threat. All said this is not a Justin schultz situation like Anahiem faced last year, its a minor setback. I think the fans in St Johns should be more upset as I saw him spending most of his 3 yrs Elc on the Rock. I would have liked his depth on D (at this stage I give him a 1/4 chance of playing more than 10 games in the NHL).

If you would have asked me a month ago I was extremly concerned that we may be in this situation with Lowry at this time, when he was not signed with a month to go until June 1st. I do think the Jets should identify who they want to ELC sooner and not procastinate so much............. I Know Chevy "there is a process that must be followed"............. but sometimes, for the fans the process sucks.

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06-02-2013, 04:09 PM
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I liked Yuen, I remember on draft day he was touted as being great value in round 4. That said, I think if the choice was Brassard OR Yuen, Brassard makes a bit more sense due to organizational depth (or lack there of on RW). Sure, LHD is kind of weak too, but D overall is pretty strong right now so I'd like to have some added RW depth.

Not signing him is a little odd, although perhaps they're hoping to get some great guys in the top 3 rounds this year and don't want extra spots towards the 50 contract limit being taken up.

So, the 2011 draft has produced:
Round 1 - Mark Scheifele, C - signed
Round 2 - no pick
Round 3 - Adam Lowry, LW - signed
Round 3 - Brennan Serville, D - NCAA
Round 4 - Zachary Yuen, D - not signed
Round 5 - Austen Brassard, RW - signed
Round 6 - Jason Kasdorf, G - NCAA
Round 7 - Aaron Harstad, D - NCAA?


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I liked Yuen, I remember on draft day he was touted as being great value in round 4. That said, I think if the choice was Brassard OR Yuen, Brassard makes a bit more sense due to organizational depth (or lack there of on RW). Sure, LHD is kind of weak too, but D overall is pretty strong right now so I'd like to have some added RW depth.

Not signing him is a little odd, although perhaps they're hoping to get some great guys in the top 3 rounds this year and don't want extra spots towards the 50 contract limit being taken up.

So, the 2011 draft has produced:
Round 1 - Mark Scheifele, C - signed
Round 2 - no pick
Round 3 - Adam Lowry, LW - signed
Round 3 - Brennan Serville, D - NCAA
Round 4 - Zachary Yuen, D - not signed
Round 5 - Austen Brassard, RW - signed
Round 6 - Jason Kasdorf, G - NCAA
Round 7 - Aaron Harstad, D - NCAA?
The Jets defensive depth doesn't really exist. The defensive group in St. John's is pretty sad.

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06-02-2013, 05:59 PM
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I liked Yuen, I remember on draft day he was touted as being great value in round 4. That said, I think if the choice was Brassard OR Yuen, Brassard makes a bit more sense due to organizational depth (or lack there of on RW). Sure, LHD is kind of weak too, but D overall is pretty strong right now so I'd like to have some added RW depth.

Not signing him is a little odd, although perhaps they're hoping to get some great guys in the top 3 rounds this year and don't want extra spots towards the 50 contract limit being taken up.

So, the 2011 draft has produced:
Round 1 - Mark Scheifele, C - signed
Round 2 - no pick
Round 3 - Adam Lowry, LW - signed
Round 3 - Brennan Serville, D - NCAA
Round 4 - Zachary Yuen, D - not signed
Round 5 - Austen Brassard, RW - signed
Round 6 - Jason Kasdorf, G - NCAA
Round 7 - Aaron Harstad, D - NCAA?
Not really...

LHD depth for the Jets seems to be consensus:
Enstrom
large drop
Stuart
Kulda (RFA, possibly gone to KHL)
Melchiori/Yuen (which one 1st depends who you talk to)
large drop
Chiarot/O`Neill
Sol

RW depth for the Jets seems to be consensus:
Wheeler
<- spot for Chevy's hypothetical wish list for this offseason
large drop
Thorburn/Peluso
Kubalik (possible KHL and expiring)
Kosmachuk
Saponari
Brassard/Cisse
Lasu

... then you can add in that Scheifele, Burmistrov, Wright, O`Dell, Klingberg, Telegin and Olsen have all taken time on the RW


Also, almost any guy from the next draft would be 2-4 years for possibility of contract. Even Lowry used up his full Jr eligibility before being signed to an ELC. (what holden said below)

IMO it's something either A didn't like B or B didn't like A anymore... it happens


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06-02-2013, 06:03 PM
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I liked Yuen, I remember on draft day he was touted as being great value in round 4. That said, I think if the choice was Brassard OR Yuen, Brassard makes a bit more sense due to organizational depth (or lack there of on RW). Sure, LHD is kind of weak too, but D overall is pretty strong right now so I'd like to have some added RW depth.

Not signing him is a little odd, although perhaps they're hoping to get some great guys in the top 3 rounds this year and don't want extra spots towards the 50 contract limit being taken up.

So, the 2011 draft has produced:
Round 1 - Mark Scheifele, C - signed
Round 2 - no pick
Round 3 - Adam Lowry, LW - signed
Round 3 - Brennan Serville, D - NCAA
Round 4 - Zachary Yuen, D - not signed
Round 5 - Austen Brassard, RW - signed
Round 6 - Jason Kasdorf, G - NCAA
Round 7 - Aaron Harstad, D - NCAA?
Unless the player is a double overager any player drafted this year will not be taking spots towards 50 contract limit (even if signed, unless they make the NHL/AHL team).

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06-02-2013, 07:03 PM
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Unless the player is a double overager any player drafted this year will not be taking spots towards 50 contract limit (even if signed, unless they make the NHL/AHL team).
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Didn't know that about the limit, Holden, so that's something I've learned there. As far as the D depth goes, I meant more overall than RHD/LHD. Again , there must have been something that spooked them off, or perhaps they're targeting some LHD prospects in the draft. Chevy and Co. have proven they're not shy of going off the board a bit

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