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2013 Draft Thread IV–June 30 3pm–8 16 38 52 69 129 130 143 159 189–Draft Primer in OP

Mod Edit: 2013 Draft Threads – Part-1, Part-2, Part-3 – Welcome to Part-4!

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GDT: 2013 NHL ENTRY DRAFT – SUN JUN 30 – 3:00PM ET – TV: NBCSN/NHLN-US, TSN – WEB: NHL.COMCHAT

Rd
Pick
Pos
Player & Thread
Team/League
Height
Weight
Stat Line
YouTube
Interview
1
008
        
1
016
        
2
038
        
2
052
        
3
069
        
5
129
        
5
130
        
5
143
        
6
159
        
7
189
        


BUFFALO-CENTRIC NEWS & NOTES

Articles, Blogs & Previews


6.10 – Sabres to host draft party on June 30 (Press Release – Sabres.com)

6.10 – Draft Preview: Top 10 Forwards (Kris Baker – SabresProspects.com)

6.17 – Buffalo Sabres draft primer: Part I (Mike Repertorio – NYHJ)

6.17 – Draft Preview: Top 10 Defensemen (Kris Baker – SabresProspects.com)

6.20 – Movin' on up? Not likely (Chris Ryndak – Sabres.com)

6.21 – Regier doubtful Sabres will land top pick (Bill Hoppe – Olean Times Herald)

6.21 – Moving up in draft may be mission impossible (John Vogl – Buffalo News)

6.23 – Bucky Gleason cleans house as Sabres’ GM for a day (Bucky Gleason – Buffalo News)

6.23 – Buffalo Sabres 2013 Draft Preview (Kris Baker – SabresProspects.com)

6.24 – Sabres in middle of expected wild week for NHL (Mike Harrington – Buffalo News)

Interviews & Pressers

5.30 – Kevin Snow interviews Kevin Devine at the 2013 NHL Scouting Combine. <4:58>

6.04 – Kevin Snow interviews NHL.com's Mike Morreale at the 2013 NHL Scouting Combine. <4:34>

6.12 – WGR's Howard Simon Show interviews Kevin Devine. <20:18>

6.20 – Complete pre-draft press conference with Darcy Regier and Kevin Devine. <29:11>

6.21 – WGR's Hockey Hotline interviews Darcy Regier. <27:48>

6.25 – WGR's Howard Simon Show interviews TSN scout Craig Button. <14:39>

6.25 – 2013 NHL Draft Ranking Special with TSN's Bob McKenzie. <21:58>

6.25 – 2013 NHL Mock Draft with TSN scout Craig Button. <22:37>

6.25 – Pipeline Show's Draft Preview with ISS head scout Ross MacLean (Part-1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) <120:00>


DRAFT GUIDE ROUNDUP

Final Rankings


CSS, Future Considerations ($), Hockey Prospect ($), ISS, McKeen's ($), Pronman, THW, TSN Button, TSN McKenzie.

Junior Resources

Buzzing the Net, DraftSite, ESPN ($), Future Considerations ($), HF, Hockey News, Hockey Prospect ($), Hockey
Prospectus
, Hockey Writers, Last Word on Sports, McKeen's ($), NEHJ, NHL.com, OHL Prospects, OHL Writers,
Pipeline Show, Red Line Report ($), Reel Hockey Scouting ($), Scout.ca ($), Scouting Report, Sportsnet, TSN,
World of Junior Hockey, WHL From Above.

Mock Drafts (Tally)

Kris Baker, Buzzing The Net, Draft Site, Fansided, FC Herasymiuk, FC Nickolet, HF Staff, Hockeybuzz, Hockey Guys,
ISS Mattson, Last Word on Sports, McKeen's, MyNHLDraft, NHL Numbers, NHL EC Scout, NHL Hoffner, NHL Morreale,
NHL Kimelman, NHL WC Scout, SB Nation, THN Kennedy, THW, TSN Button, Webbsporten.


SCOUTING COMBINE SUMMARY

2013 NHL Scouting Combine
(Toronto, ON)

5.26 – NHL.com's 'Combing the 2013 NHL Combine' blog (Adam Kimelman, Mike Morreale – NHL.com)

5.31 – TSN's 2013 NHL Draft Combine Special. <45:30>

6.01 – Combine fitness results (Adam Kimelman – NHL.com)

2013 Buffalo Sabres Combine Participants (at First Niagara Center w/49 or so unknowns)

CSS
Pos
Skaters
Team/League
Height
Weight
GP
G
A
P
PIM
Confirmed w/Link
EU 003
RC
Brynas/SWE
6.00
181
48
11
19
030
002
EU 005
LC
Djurgarden/SWE-2
6.01
174
46
14
18
032
014
EU 008
LD
MODO/SWE
6.02
193
27
00
01
001
002
EU 013
LD
Djurgarden/SWE-2
6.01
179
31
00
01
001
008
NA 005
LC
Ottawa/OHL
6.02
187
58
31
47
078
024
NA 006
LW/C
Medicine Hat/WHL
5.10
181
64
37
49
086
044
NA 009
LD
Everett/WHL
6.03
176
63
06
25
031
057
NA 013
RW
Owen Sound/OHL
6.01
190
62
20
20
040
032
NA 017
LW
Windsor/OHL
6.01
205
68
40
47
087
094
NA 020
RW/C
Edmonton/WHL
6.00
190
72
38
23
061
047
NA 025
LW
Regina/WHL
5.11
180
72
36
40
076
020
NA 026
LW
Quebec/QMJHL
6.00
210
68
28
44
072
067
NA 027
LD
Prince Albert/WHL
6.00
186
70
15
32
047
091
NA 033
RW
Portland/WHL
5.08
165
71
46
74
120
043
NA 036
LW
Portland/WHL
5.11
157
65
31
32
063
010
NA 038
RW
Kitchener/OHL
6.03
186
57
17
19
036
034
NA 039
LW
Gatineau/QMJHL
6.01
183
65
32
38
070
101
NA 049
RD
USNTDP/USHL
6.02
207
56
00
13
013
042
NA 063
LC
Kingston/OHL
6.02
204
66
17
31
048
040
NA 072
LC
Quebec/QMJHL
5.11
185
31
09
16
025
056
NA 074
LD
Shawinigan/QMJHL
6.01
180
61
07
21
028
057
NA 168
LD
Gatineau/QMJHL
6.03
181
68
01
07
008
086

CSS
C
Goalies
Team/League
Height
Weight
GP
GAA
MIN
SO
SV%
Confirmed w/Link
NA 001
L
Halifax/QMJHL
6.01
181
55
2.35
3162
2
.909
NA 005
L
Mississauga/OHL
6.02
198
46
3.02
2504
0
.906
NA 007
L
Rimouski/QMJHL
6.01
182
43
3.07
2305
1
.900
NA 009
L
PEI/QMJHL
6.02
198
46
2.81
2521
5
.911


LOCAL DRAFT-ELIGIBLE PROSPECTS (WNY & Southern Ontario)

Ranked Prospects

CSS
Pos
Prospect
Team/League
Height
Weight
GP
G
A
P
PIM
Birthplace
038
RW
Kitchener/OHL
6.03
186
57
17
19
36
34
Williamsville, NY
062
LC
USNTDP/USHL
5.11
183
44
13
14
27
19
West Seneca, NY
101
LD
Guelph/OHL
6.06
210
67
03
12
15
59
Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON
138
LW
Nobles/USHS-MA
6.01
160
15
08
10
18
18
Buffalo, NY
143
LC
Fargo/USHL
5.11
165
50
20
23
43
15
Eden, NY
156
RC
Guelph/OHL
5.08
164
50
12
19
31
25
St. Catharines, ON
197
LW
Niagara/OHL
5.10
190
68
14
16
30
58
Welland, ON
206
RD
Nobles/USHS-MA
6.02
189
27
12
15
27
42
Buffalo, NY

Recent Interviews

6.06 – Kevin Snow interviews Justin Bailey ahead of the 2013 NHL Entry Draft. <7:34>

6.13 – Kevin Snow interviews Sean Malone at the 2013 NHL Scouting Combine. <4:30>

6.25 – WGR's Howard Simon Show interviews Justin Bailey ahead of the 2013 NHL Entry Draft. <8:53>


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Anyone Think Justin Bailey will be on the Sabres radar? What round he expected to go in, 2nd/3rd? Wouldn't mind grabbing him in the draft somehow.
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Had a good time at the @BuffaloSabres combine today pic.twitter.com/F9S7INHFCw



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Three CalgaryFlames.com mock draft results from May 30: (A) Monahan, Fucale; (B) Nurse, Morrissey; and (C) Lindholm, Shinkaruk.

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All done at the Leafs fitness testing and off to Buffalo Sabres Combine tonight! #LivingTheDream

Link: https://twitter.com/S_Marty95/status/341210573788311552


Remember that Martin's family have been Buffalo STH since the lockout .. he also is the first goalie confirmed for our combine.

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Confirmed for Buffalo combine: Bailey + Erne + Etchegary + Hagg + Labbe + Lindholm + Martin + Monahan + Poirier + Rychel + Santini + Wennberg + 63 or so others


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Also, if current heights / body types interest you, check THIS link, as their images from the NHL combine provide numbers for some of the prospects. For instance, here's Artturi Lehkonen looking at least 5'11.25" and Rasmus Ristolainen breaching 6'4":




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Also, if current heights / body types interest you, check THIS link, as their images from the NHL combine provide numbers for some of the prospects. For instance, here's Artturi Lehkonen looking at least 5'11.25" and Rasmus Ristolainen breaching 6'4":



Rasmus looks pretty chubby. He will fit right in with Myers as under conditioned defenseman.

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Rasmus looks pretty chubby. He will fit right in with Myers as under conditioned defenseman.
Glad you're not jumping to conclusions based on nothing.

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Rasmus looks pretty chubby. He will fit right in with Myers as under conditioned defenseman.
Dude's 18 years old. Looking at him you can tell he has a very good frame, quite dissimilar to Myers'.

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Rasmus looks pretty chubby. He will fit right in with Myers as under conditioned defenseman.
Drew Doughty was much larger and doughier during the draft and the season or two after that. He still is a true franchise #1 dman and a top 10 dman In the league.

A lot of the top players are hardly top notch physical specimens. I'd actually say that hockey is the sport where average looking players physically can be the best players in the league.

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I can't seem to find a list of the invitees, but does anyone know how many of the players Buffalo actually drafted last year attended their combine? Were both Grigorenko and Girgensons there?

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I can't seem to find a list of the invitees, but does anyone know how many of the players Buffalo actually drafted last year attended their combine? Were both Grigorenko and Girgensons there?
Grigorenko was not there.

Kea and Austin were there. I'm not sure about the others.

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Grigorenko was not there.

Kea and Austin were there. I'm not sure about the others.
Logan Nelson was there, as was Ullmark.

Lepkowski and Navin two years ago.

Looking for my lists now...

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Can't find it...could only find the list of players we brought in after the combine for interviews last year....not sure if accurate...

Morgan Rielly
Brady Vail
Cody Ceci
Matt Finn
Adam Pelech
Justin Kea
Tom Wilson
Scott Kosmachuk
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Draft-Defensemen Dissection: Volume 1 - Nikita Zadorov

From now until the draft, I will be analyzing a handful of the top draft-eligible defensemen for this upcoming draft. I've collected tons of full games (where I can), highlights, scouting reports, articles, and everything relevant, and picking them apart and going over them with a fine-toothed comb. Feel free to pass right over the writeups, or read and comment on my observations.

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Volume 1

Nikita Zadorov, London

ISS: 8th | CS: 22nd (NA) | THN: 14th

As I watched more film on him, and regurgitated a handful of the Knights' early season games, particularly two in November, my view of his NHL potential became murkier and murkier. He would look the part of a defensive stalwart and a top-4, stay-at-home fixture on some nights, and he'd look like a bottom pairing guy on other nights. Also failed to bring the same game on a shift-by-shift basis, which is maddening for a blueliner...

Pros: he has size you can't teach...6'5, 230lbs... he's a positive presence in the crease in the defensive zone, and seems to be good with his stick in an annoying way. Not easy to play against in the tight areas. Good shot with some zip behind it when he has time. When play is sustained in his zone for longer stretches, he's not running around too much, which indicates positional discipline...full games I watched were early in the year, and all indications are that he grew immensely as the year went on, telling me he's coachable and willing to improve. Uses his size to separate opposition from puck

Cons: not as imposing in open ice as he should be with his size...takes himself out of the play when trying to connect on the big pop...takes a long time to get his shot off...despite being relatively willing to fight, he's not a good fighter, swinging his paws like a cat. First pass needs work. Invisible in a bad way too often in the highlights I've seen

FAVORITE: awesome, awesome, AWESOME gap control for a guy with his size... when you're a bigger defenseman, more often than not you lose a bit of foot speed, thus increasing the cushion you allow between yourself and the opposing rusher to compensate... almost all of the standout rushes against him were kept tight to his lanes, stick length away, head always up focusing on the chest as he should be

HATE IT: he takes shifts off...often... you can coach that out of a player, but give me a smaller, less imposing guy who plays hard every shift and I'm happy

Standout Draft Moment: absolutely obliterated Anthony Mantha in the Top Prospects game with a clean check

If we took him at 8, I'd... be mad at passing up on about 4 other guys likely still available that I prefer for a variety of reasons

If we took him at 16, I'd... accept it & not love it, though the size and potential would be a decent addition to the pipeline

Ridiculously-specific Comparable, Best Case: He'd end up playing like Andrej Meszaros did in his first two seasons in Ottawa, but do so in a Larry Robinson body

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In buffalo ... I guess #dead #exhausted



https://twitter.com/25mueller/status/340943992508260352

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https://twitter.com/petan19/status/341342404156198912



Nic Petan
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In buffalo ... I guess #dead #exhausted



https://twitter.com/25mueller/status/340943992508260352

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Nic sounds thrilled.

Bets on how long before people overreact and say they wouldn't draft him because he hates Buffalo?

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In Buffalo... I guess.


He also didn't capitalize "Buffalo". No chance he's getting drafted by the Sabres.




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Really, really want this guy:



Looks like Nick Backstrom just way more tenacious on the puck. If he's still around at 5-7, I hope they make a move to jump up a few spots to get him.

Edit: Not sure why the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4x9D3uRqEU) isn't working...

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If we took him at 8, I'd... be mad at passing up on about 4 other guys likely still available that I prefer for a variety of reasons

If we took him at 16, I'd... accept it & not love it, though the size and potential would be a decent addition to the pipeline
Great write up....
But the part quoted above doesnt make sense....
You'd hate him at 8, because there are 4 guys you'd prefer (that puts Zadarov at 12)... but you wouldn't love getting your #12 at #16?

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Scenario one:

You're Regier. The draft board takes a strange turn when Yzerman decides to take Nichuskin over Drouin. Regier ponies up a huge package, inculding one of Hodgson or Grigorenko, to move from No. 8 to No. 4. Who are you taking at four, Drouin or Barkov?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
BUF (NSH): ???

Scenario two:

You're Regier. The draft board has fallen in your favor after Nichuskin and a couple of defensemen are taken in the first seven picks. What are you doing if the draft board falls this way?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
NSH: Drouin
CAR: Ristolainen
CGY: Barkov
EDM: Nurse
BUF: ???

Do you go Lindholm or do you go Monahan and why?

Disclaimer: I know the above scenarios aren't even remotely likely, just trying to generate some discussion (and you never know - nobody expected Forsberg or Grigorenko to fall so far last year).

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Scenario one:

You're Regier. The draft board takes a strange turn when Yzerman decides to take Nichuskin over Drouin. Regier ponies up a huge package, inculding one of Hodgson or Grigorenko, to move from No. 8 to No. 4. Who are you taking at four, Drouin or Barkov?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
BUF (NSH): ???
If we gave up one of our 2 young offensive centers, i'd say we had to take Barkov.

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Scenario two:

You're Regier. The draft board has fallen in your favor after Nichuskin and a couple of defensemen are taken in the first seven picks. What are you doing if the draft board falls this way?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
NSH: Drouin
CAR: Ristolainen
CGY: Barkov
EDM: Nurse
BUF: ???

Do you go Lindholm or do you go Monahan and why?

Disclaimer: I know the above scenarios aren't even remotely likely, just trying to generate some discussion (and you never know - nobody expected Forsberg or Grigorenko to fall so far last year).
Lindholm, higher offensive ceiling

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Really, really want this guy:



Looks like Nick Backstrom just way more tenacious on the puck. If he's still around at 5-7, I hope they make a move to jump up a few spots to get him.

Edit: Not sure why the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4x9D3uRqEU) isn't working...
If Regier can't swing a deal to get MacKinnon, I want Lindholm. Love the tempo he plays the game at, and plays physical.

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Scenario one:

You're Regier. The draft board takes a strange turn when Yzerman decides to take Nichuskin over Drouin. Regier ponies up a huge package, inculding one of Hodgson or Grigorenko, to move from No. 8 to No. 4. Who are you taking at four, Drouin or Barkov?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
BUF (NSH): ???

Scenario two:

You're Regier. The draft board has fallen in your favor after Nichuskin and a couple of defensemen are taken in the first seven picks. What are you doing if the draft board falls this way?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
NSH: Drouin
CAR: Ristolainen
CGY: Barkov
EDM: Nurse
BUF: ???

Do you go Lindholm or do you go Monahan and why?

Disclaimer: I know the above scenarios aren't even remotely likely, just trying to generate some discussion (and you never know - nobody expected Forsberg or Grigorenko to fall so far last year).
Scenario 1: my choice is between Barkov and Lindholm.

Scenario 2: Lindholm

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Scenario one:

You're Regier. The draft board takes a strange turn when Yzerman decides to take Nichuskin over Drouin. Regier ponies up a huge package, inculding one of Hodgson or Grigorenko, to move from No. 8 to No. 4. Who are you taking at four, Drouin or Barkov?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
BUF (NSH): ???

Scenario two:

You're Regier. The draft board has fallen in your favor after Nichuskin and a couple of defensemen are taken in the first seven picks. What are you doing if the draft board falls this way?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
NSH: Drouin
CAR: Ristolainen
CGY: Barkov
EDM: Nurse
BUF: ???

Do you go Lindholm or do you go Monahan and why?

Disclaimer: I know the above scenarios aren't even remotely likely, just trying to generate some discussion (and you never know - nobody expected Forsberg or Grigorenko to fall so far last year).
1st scenario: Barkov
2nd: Lindholm

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Scenario one:

You're Regier. The draft board takes a strange turn when Yzerman decides to take Nichuskin over Drouin. Regier ponies up a huge package, inculding one of Hodgson or Grigorenko, to move from No. 8 to No. 4. Who are you taking at four, Drouin or Barkov?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
BUF (NSH): ???

Scenario two:

You're Regier. The draft board has fallen in your favor after Nichuskin and a couple of defensemen are taken in the first seven picks. What are you doing if the draft board falls this way?

COL: Jones
FLA: MacKinnon
TB: Nichuskin
NSH: Drouin
CAR: Ristolainen
CGY: Barkov
EDM: Nurse
BUF: ???

Do you go Lindholm or do you go Monahan and why?

Disclaimer: I know the above scenarios aren't even remotely likely, just trying to generate some discussion (and you never know - nobody expected Forsberg or Grigorenko to fall so far last year).
I haven't seen any of these players play but I threw darts at the board and here is my order.
Drouin
Barkov
Lindholm
Monahan

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Really, really want this guy:



Looks like Nick Backstrom just way more tenacious on the puck. If he's still around at 5-7, I hope they make a move to jump up a few spots to get him.
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Rasmus looks pretty chubby. He will fit right in with Myers as under conditioned defenseman.
Rasmus finished 4th in VO2 max behind Mueller, Bigras and Erne and 7th in pull strength. Don't think conditioning is an issue here.

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