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Final 2013 Ranking + 2013 Mock Draft + 2014 Preview

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NHL FINAL RANKINGS 2013 ()= March Ranking

1. Seth Jones, D (USA) Portland Winterhawks, WHL (1)
2. Nathan MacKinnon, C (CAN) Halifax Mooseheads, LHJMQ (2)
3. Jonathan Drouin, LW (CAN) Halifax Mooseheads, LHJMQ (4)
4. Valeri Nichushkin, W (RUS) Belie Medvedi Chelyabinsk, MHL (5)
5. Aleksander Barkov, C (FIN) Tappara, SM-Liiga (3)
6. Sean Monahan, C (CAN) Ottawa 67s, OHL (6)
7. Elias Lindholm, C (SWE) Brynas, SEL (7)
8. Hunter Shinkaruk, LW (CAN) Medicine Hat Tigers, WHL (8)
9. Darnell Nurse, D (CAN) Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds, OHL (17)
10. Josh Morrissey, D (CAN) Prince Albert Raiders, WHL (12)
11. Rasmus Ristolainen, D (FIN) TPS, SM-Liiga (9)
12. Max Domi, C (CAN) London Knights, OHL (14)
13. Nikita Zadorov, D (RUS) London Knights, OHL (15)
14. Adam Erne, RW (USA) Quebec Remparts, LHJMQ (11)
15. Bo Harvat, C (CAN) London Knights, OHL (26)
16. Ryan Pulock, D (CAN) Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (10)
17. Curtis Lazar, C (CAN) Edmonton Oil Kings, WHL (13)
18. Kerby Rychel, LW (CAN) Windsor Spitfires, OHL (18)
19. Robert Hagg, D (SWE) MODO, SEL (20)
20. Anthony Mantha, LW (CAN) Val-d'Or Foreurs, LHJMQ (19)
21. Alex Wennberg, C/W (SWE) Djurgården, SEL (24)
22. Frederik Gauthier, C (CAN) Rimouski Oceanic, LHJMQ (16)
23. Ryan Hartman, RW (USA) Plymouth Whalers, OHL (21)
24. Zach Fucale, G (CAN) Halifax Mooseheads, LHJMQ (22)
25. Valentin Zykov, RW (RUS) Baie-Comeau Drakkar, LHJMQ (35)
26. Jason Dickinson, C (CAN) Guelph Storm, OHL (23)
27. André Burakovsky, LW (SWE) Malmo, SEL (32)
28. JT Compher, C (USA) USNTDP, USHL (30)
29. Artturi Lehkonen, RW (FIN) KalPa, SM-Liiga (25)
30. Ian McCoshen, D (USA) Waterloo Blackhawks, USHL (33)

31. Nicolas Petan, C (CAN) Portland Winterhawks, WHL (60)(Top 10 Talent)
32. William Carrier, C (CAN) Cape Breton Screaming Eagles, LHJMQ (34)
33. Mirco Mueller, D (SUI) Everett Silvertips, WHL (31)
34. Laurent Dauphin, LW (CAN) Chicoutimi Sagueneens, LHJMQ (36)
35. Morgan Klimchuk, LW (CAN) Regina Pats, WHL (37)
36. Pavel Buchnevich, C (RUS) Almaz Cherepovets, MHL (47)
37. Shea Theodore, D (CAN) Seattle Thunderbirds, WHL (40)
38. Oliver Bjorkstrand, RW (DEN) Portland Winterhawks, WHL (28)
39. Samuel Morin, D (CAN) Rimouski Océanic, LHJMQ (NR)
40. Sergei Tolchinsky, RW (RUS) Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds, OHL (42)
41. Emile Poirier, LW (CAN) Gatineau Olympiques, LHJMQ (NR)
42. Dillon Heatherington, D (CAN) Swift Current Broncos, WHL (61)
43. Anthony Duclair, LW (CAN) Quebec Remparts, LHJMQ (29)
44. Keaton Thompson, D (USA) USNTDP, USHL (27)
45. Nick Sörensen, RW (SWE) Quebec Remparts, LHJMQ (39)
46. Steve Santini, D (USA) USNTDP, USHL (38)
47. Eric Comrie, G (CAN) Tri-City Americans, WHL (49)
48. Zach Natasiuk, RW (CAN) Owen Sound Attack, OHL (NR)
49. Madison Bowey, D (CAN) Kelowna Rockets, WHL (53)
50. Ryan Kujawinski, C (CAN) Kingston Frontenacs, OHL (46)
51. Taylor Cammarata, F (USA) Waterloo Blackhawks, USHL (41)
52. Bogdan Yakimov, C (RUS) Dizel Penza, VHL (45)
53. Tyler Motte, LW (USA) USNTDP, USHL (57)
54. Linus Arnesson, D (SWE) Djurgården, Allsvenskan (44)
55. Jimmy Lodge, C (USA) Saginaw Spirit, OHL (NR)
56. Justin Bailey, RW (USA) Kitchener Rangers, OHL (62)
57. Gregory Chase, C (CAN) Calgary Hitmen, WHL (48)
58. Jérémy Grégoire, C (CAN) Chicoutimi Sagueneens, LHJMQ (56)
59. Eric Roy, D (CAN) Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (58)
60. Marc-Olivier Roy, RW (CAN) B.B. Armada, LHJMQ (NR)

Jacob de la Rose, C/W (SWE) Leksand, Allsvenskan
Tom Vanelli, D (USA) USTNDP, USHL
Conner Hurley, C (USA) Notre Dame Fighting Irish, NCAA
Jordan Subban, D (CAN) Belleville Bulls, OHL
Jan Kostalek, D (CZE) Rimouski Oceanic, LHJMQ


NHL 2014 DRAFT
1. Sam Reinhart, C (CAN) Kootenay Ice, WHL
2. Aaron Ekblad, D (CAN) Barrie Colts, OHL
3. William Nylander, C/RW (SWE) Sodertalje, SEL
4. Roland McKeown, D (CAN) Kingston Frontenacs, OHL
5. Nick Ritchie, RW (CAN) Peterborough Petes, OHL
6. Ivan Barbashev, LW (RUS) Moncton Wildcats, LHJMQ [One player to watch for that could push into the top 3-5]
7. Leon Draisaitl, C/LW (GER) Prince Albert Raiders, WHL
8. Blake Clarke, LW (USA) Brampton Battalion, OHL
9. Josh Ho-Sang, C (CAN) Windsor Spitfires, OHL
10. Nick Schmaltz, C (USA) Green Bay Gamblers, USHL
11. Jakub Vrána, W (CZE) Linköping, SEL
12. Jake Virtanen, LW (CAN) Calgary Hitmen, WHL
13. Nikolai Goldobin, RW (RUS) Sarnia Stings, OHL
14. Sonny Milano, C/LW (USA) USNTDP, USHL
15. Jared McCann, C (CAN) Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds, OHL
16. Anthony DeAngelo, D (USA) Sarnia Sting, OHL
17. Jayce Hawryluk, C (CAN) Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL
18. Chase De Leo, C (USA) Portland Winterhawks, WHL
19. Brandon Robinson, LW (CAN) Brampton Battalion, OHL
20. Hayden Fleury, D (CAN) Red Deer Rebels, WHL
21. Oskar Lindblom, RW (SWE) Brynas, SEL
22. Brayden Point, C (CAN) Moose Jaw Warriors, WHL
23. Michael Dal Colle, C (CAN) Oshawa Generals, OHL
24. Keegan Iverson, C (USA) Portland Winterhawks, WHL
25. Robbie Fabbri, C (CAN) Guelph Storm, OHL
26. Shane Eiserman, LW (USA) USNTDP, USHL
27. Kasperi Kapanen, LW (FIN) KalPa, SM-Liiga
28. Josh Thrower, D (CAN) Calgary Hitmen, WHL
29. Tyson Baillie, C (CAN) Kelowna Rockets, WHL
30. Jacob Middleton, D (CAN) Ottawa 67s, OHL

31. Jack Glover, D (USA) USNTDP, USHL
32. Patrik Koys, RW (SLO) Shawinigan Cataractes, LHJMQ
33. Conner Bleackley, C (CAN) Red Deer Rebels, WHL
34. Anton Karlsson, W (SWE) Frolunda, SEL
35. Jordan Thompson, D (CAN) Kamloops Blazers, WHL
36. Rihards Bukarts, LW (LAT) HK Riga, MHL

Others to watch
Ryan MacInnis
Eric Cornel
Spencer Watson
Brycen Martin
Alexis Pepin
Tyler Sandhu
Reid Duke
Devin Williams
Adrian Kempe
Olivier Leblanc
Brendan Perlini


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1. Colorado Avalanche – Seth Jones, D [Portland Winterhawks]
The worst defensive-core-team in the league drafts a complete stud that will help them in every possible situation. Still needs to work on defensive side of things, but will jump into the offensive game in his first shift of training camp and be an impact player.

2. Florida Panthers – Nathan MacKinnon, C [Halifax Mooseheads]
Panthers with the easiest pick of this year’s draft they get a dynamic all-round offensive threat with great vision whether it’s passing or shooting. Needs to work on play without the puck, but he will secure their #1 centre position for a long time.

3. Tampa Bay Lightning – Valeri Nichushkin, W [Dynamo Moskva]
Lightning go off the board slightly and take the big-bodied Russian who might have plans on joining North American this year taking away majority of the Russian factor. He can beat you with anything and everything, but needs to become smarter when to shoot and when to pass.

4. Nashville Predators – Jonathan Drouin, LW [Halifax Mooseheads]
Preds desperately need scoring and what is better than selecting Drouin BPA dropping to #4? He isn’t NHL ready, but when this kid ultimately plays in the NHL he will definitely help Predators offensive struggles with great creativity and vision. He really makes everyone around him better.

5. Carolina Hurricanes – Aleksander Barkov, C [Tappara]
Hurricanes are pretty solid in every position and get better down the middle with Barkov+Staal ² combo. Barkov can also play in every situation that the coach wants him in including scoring a GWG goal or shutting down a late PK with a one goal lead.

6. Calgary Flames – Elias Lindholm, C [Brynas]
Flames can improve their system with any position, but they always needed and wanted a #1 centre. Well with best player available, Lindholm is their man. Elias can play all 200 feet of the ice and has great playmaking and passing ability. Still needs to improve his shooting, finishing, and frame so he probably will be either in Brynas or AHL next year.

7. Edmonton Oilers – Darnell Nurse, D [SSM Greyhounds]
I know Oilers could go for Monahan here, but Nurse at #7 is really good value in my opinion. He projects to he a tough, physical, good skating two-way defenseman that can also put up the numbers. He also makes a great first pass to the great skating Oiler forwards for a quick breakout.

8. Buffalo Sabres – Sean Monahan, C [Ottawa 67s]
Sabres could go for a defenseman here, but it’s too hard to pass up on Monahan. Like Flames Sabres fans always wanted a true first line centre to play with Vanek, but now things are in the unknown with Vanek and possibly Miller going via trades. Sean has that potential for Vanek as he is a great playmaking centre who really improved his play away from the puck, just needs to work on skating.

9. New Jersey Devils – Hunter Shinkaruk, LW [Medicine Hat Tigers]
Devils lack a star potential forward in their system and that is all fine and dandy, Hunter here at 9th overall is BPA which (by coincidence) helps a need. Shinkaruk is one of the top offensive players in this year’s draft that has shades of Jeff Skinner 2.0. Hunter won’t be making the NHL in the fall, but he gives hope, happiness, and eagerness to the Devils fanbase with his goal scoring and playmaking ability and potential.

10. Dallas Stars – Max Domi, C [London Knights]
If I was Dallas here I would package a few of their picks and try to move up in the draft, but Domi at #10 is still solid value. Domi is basically what Stars fans want in an offensive player! He is very elusive with the puck, underrated stickhandler, great skater, good low centre of gravity, and got some genes from his dad…pest like qualities. He isn’t going to go out there and win fights, but he draws so many penalties he’s a player you hate to play against.

11. Philadelphia Flyers – Nikita Zadorov, D [London Knights]
Oh man Flyers fans must be happy in their situation. They desperately need a solid defenseman and what is better than huge body, hard-hitting Zadorov. Best yet he is best player available at #11, but a few years away from making an impact due to being raw. He has an underrated offensive game and skating ability that makes him a complete package.

12. Phoenix Coyotes – Anthony Mantha, LW [Val-d'Or Foreurs]
Coyotes are in a good position to not let their prospects rush and that is why they decide to take offensive juggernaut in Mantha. Anthony has the frame of an NHL player already, but needs a few years to get the consistency issues under control. When he is going to be ready to play in the big leagues he will provide with a fantastic offensive game that can dominate. Just needs to use his size more in the dirty areas. I also think if Tippett comes back he can get the most out of Mantha.

13. Winnipeg Jets – Bo Horvat, C [London Knights]
Some teams need players like Bergeron and O’Reilly at desperate times in the playoffs, and you can add Horvat to that list of players. He has the potential to become a solid two-way forward that plays a high intensity and character game. Horvat always seems to make the best type of play in any zone from chipping it off the glass to a breakaway pass as he has the skill, IQ, and strength to get it done and win games. His attention to detail is amazing and Jets will be very happy for years to come.

14. Columbus Blue Jackets – Rasmus Ristolainen, D [TPS]
Like Dallas if I was Columbus here I would trade some of the picks and try to move up, but they cannot be disappointed getting Ristolainen at #14. He is a solid two-way defenseman with NHL size and decent size. He won’t really wow you like Jones or Bowey, but plays a safe game and can contribute on both ends of the ice with solid plays.

15. NY Islanders – Kerby Rychel, LW [Windsor Spitfires]
For some odd reason Rychel kept dropping slightly throughout the year while posting his second consecutive 40-goal season in the OHL. He plays with heart and determination, but also sticks out for teammates on a regular basis. He needs to improve his skating quite a bit, but goes to the dirty areas and just a player you love having on your team.

16. Buffalo Sabres [From MIN] – Josh Morrissey, D [Prince Albert Raiders]
After getting a solid playmaking centre it is hard to pass up on Morrissey who is good in basically everything. He can score, he can skate, he can pass, he can hit, and he has decent IQ. I labeled him a poor’s man Ryan Murray and he plays just like him. I would add that Morrissey will be better in the physical department that can go a long ways.

17. Ottawa Senators – Alex Wennberg, C/W [Djurgarden]
A great drafting team that is solid in all positions, Senators have no need to rush Wennberg at all and it will benefit in the end. Wennberg is probably the biggest player that came out of nowhere to solidify a middle-of-the-pack-in-the-1st-round ranking. He has good all around offensive abilities from passing to scoring. Alex is also a decent skater, but still needs a ton of muscle added to his frame before playing in NHL.

18. Detroit Red Wings – Ryan Pulock, D [Brandon Wheat Kings]
Red Wings make an easy pick and select offensive defenseman from the Wheat Kings. Pulock brings an absolutely rocket of a shot that will replace Lidstrom on the powerplay point, but Pulock is still trying to figure his game out. He isn’t physical and even though he isn’t the worst defensively it is one area he could improve on. He also tends to be invisible in games, but Red Wings tract record of development will be great for Pulock.

19. Columbus Blues Jackets [From NYR] – Curtis Lazar, C [Edmonton Oil Kings]
After getting a solid defenseman Blue Jackets are back getting Jenner 2.0. Lazar is going to be a solid goal scorer and add great depth for the Blue Jackets, but can do other things that make teams win games. I call these attributes, “attention to detail” and like Horvat, Lazar has that “clutch” character skill that will make him so valuable.

20. San Jose Sharks – Adam Erne, RW [Quebec Remparts]
I understand that off ice issues are the reason why Erne falls this far, but Sharks are more then happy for his on ice qualities. When watching Erne play California hockey fans will see Bobby Ryan-esque strengths in his game. Erne is a great skater who has a good definition of toughness and hard to be pushed off the puck when driving into the dirty areas. He also has good stickhandling and great goal scoring abilities, but could work on his first explosive step.

21. Toronto Maple Leafs – Valentin Zykov, RW [Baie-Comeau Drakkar]
Hard decision here for Leafs considering there are a bunch of players that are around the same skill level, but in the end they select Zykov from LHJMQ. Zykov already plays an NHL game in terms of toughness with the puck, but isn’t overly physical. His best skill is scoring goals and he is pretty damn good at it already having an NHL ready shot and will just get better. One area Valentin needs to work on is skating; he looks (to me) sort of awkward and choppy out there.

22. Calgary Flames [From STL] – Ryan Hartman, RW [Plymouth Whalers]
Flames continue to stock up offensive talent and select one of the most notable players in this year’s draft. Even if Hartman isn’t having a great game he can still help his team by aggressiveness and physicality which makes him a useful player from 1st to 3rd line. He has decent offensive ability can punish you by scoring or passing, also has decent takeaway skill.

23. Washington Capitals – André Burakovsky, LW [Malmo]
Looking like a top 10 player Burakovsky hasn’t had a solid year in terms of development, but it’s hard to pass on him here and his dynamic offensive potential. He isn’t going to wow you with his play away from the puck, but that is not the reason why he’s being drafted, he’s being drafted due to his scoring and passing – skill and potential. Also needs to be tougher in the dirty areas of the offensive zone, but he will provide just another dangerous scorer to try and shutdown.

24. Vancouver Canucks – Frederik Gauthier, C [Rimouski Oceanic]
Another player that is pretty hard to pass up on at 24th, Gauthier brings Bergeron qualities into the Canucks system. He is really raw, probably around Justin Bailey’s level of rawness, but man if he can develop the Canucks are getting something special. He will be a very solid two-way forward with elite defensive game. He probably won’t be physical nor be around PPG, but Frederik (like Lazar, Horvat, Rychel) are players you win with.

25. Montreal Canadiens – Robert Hagg, D [MODO]
Picking off the players falling, Canadiens are the third in line taking Hagg who I think is a really solid player. He is more on the safe side and doesn’t stand out in anything, but doesn’t have major flaws that could cost teams points and Cups. At the end of the night he might have a secondary assistant or zero points, but either way you will come impressed. Robert is still trying to figure out his offensive game at the moment.

26. Anaheim Ducks – Jason Dickinson, C [Guelph Storm]
Some solid players around Ducks pick, but in the end they take Dickinson. Jason is another player who basically came out of nowhere and cemented a late 1st round selection based on solid play. Dickinson is going to become a good two-way player that was used in every major situation from a defensive draw to being on the ice to score that GTG. He like all young players needs to find his consistency and bring his top 6 potential to Storms training camp in fall.

27. Columbus Blue Jackets [From LA] – Nicolas Petan, C [Portland Winterhawks]
With the last of the three 1st rounders, Blue Jackets decide to go with some risk and take the 5’9” centre here. Nicolas Petan, even though small he has top 10 and arguably top 5 talent in this year’s draft. He possesses insane vision and offensive IQ; telling yourself he’s always in the right place for a dangerous scoring chance, he was (IMO) the main contributor in the best line of the WHL. Petan also makes known he plans to get up to 180 lbs and I know everyone will be excited on how this guy progresses.

28. Dallas Stars [From BOS] – William Carrier, C [Cape Breton Screaming Eagles]
Stars continue with the high offensive talent track getting a player who is a bit raw, but has great upside. He battled injuries for the year missing around 30 games and still led his team in points when coming back. Needs to work on skating, but contains NHL frame, NHL shot, and decent playmaking ability.

29. Calgary Flames [From PIT] – Zach Fucale, G [Halifax Mooseheads]
The rebuilding and restocking of Flames prospect system continues as they draft the goaler of the future. Fucale is still a bit of a work in progress, but we have seen him at his very best (2011-12 QMJHL playoffs) and his worst (2013 Memorial Cup). Still he has great potential and good goaltending skill you can upon. He also has the ability to make huge saves that changes momentum in games for his team. He has to get more consistent in terms of game in and game out and needs to challenge the shooter more (prone to play deep in net at times).

30. Chicago Blackhawks – JT Compher, C [USNTDP]
Hawks are solid in every position except maybe goaler, so as others they can take their time on prospects and get one hell of a player in Compher. JT brings his game every shift, 110%, and just a player you love having on your team and hate playing against. The next best thing is this kid has decent offensive talent with good all around skill, but more known for his vision and passing ability. Still a couple years away, but could have the most improvement next season due to his determination.

Last four teams were ranked from points.

31. Florida Panthers – Shea Theodore, D [Seattle Thunderbirds]
32. Colorado Avalanche – Zach Natasiuk, RW [Owen Sound Attack]
33. Tampa Bay Lightning – Mirco Mueller, D [Everett Silvertips]
34. Montreal Canadiens [From NSH] – Emile Poirier, LW [Gatineau Olympiques]
35. Carolina Hurricanes – Morgan Klimchuk, LW [Regina Pats]
36. Montreal Canadiens [From CAL] – Dillon Heatherington, D [Swift Current Broncos]
37. Edmonton Oilers – Artturi Lehkonen, RW [KalPa]
38. Buffalo Sabres – Pavel Buchnevich, C [Almaz Cherepovets]
39. New Jersey Devils – Samuel Morin, D [Rimouski Océanic]
40. Dallas Stars – Ian McCoshen, D [Waterloo Blackhawks]
41. Philadelphia Flyers – Eric Comrie, G [Tri-City Americans]
42. Phoenix Coyotes – Laurent Dauphin, LW [Chicoutimi Sagueneens]
43. Winnipeg Jets – Ryan Kujawinski, C [Kingston Frontenacs]
44. Columbus Blue Jackets – Steve Santini, D [USNTDP]
45. Anaheim Ducks [From NYI] – Oliver Bjorkstrand, RW [Portland Winterhawks]
46. Minnesota Wild – Keaton Thompson, D [USNTDP]
47. St. Louis Blues [From OTT] – Sergei Tolchinsky, RW [Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds]
48. Detroit Red Wings – Nick Sörensen, RW [Quebec Remparts]
49. San Jose Sharks [From NYR] – Madison Bowey, D [Kelowna Rockets]
50. San Jose Sharks – Jimmy Lodge, C [Saginaw Spirit]
51. Toronto Maple Leafs – Eric Roy, D [Brandon Wheat Kings]
52. Buffalo Sabres [From STL] – Linus Arnesson, D [Djurgården]
53. Washington Capitals – Bogdan Yakimov, C [Dizel Penza]
54. Dallas Stars [From VAN] – Justin Bailey, RW [Kitchener Rangers]
55. Montreal Canadiens – Anthony Duclair, LW [Quebec Remparts]
56. Edmonton Oilers [From ANA] – Tristan Jarry, G [Edmonton Oil Kings]
57. Los Angeles Kings – Marc-Olivier Roy, RW [B.B. Armada]
58. Boston Bruins – Conner Hurley, C [Notre Dame Fighting Irish]
59. Winnipeg Jets [Compensatory] – Chris Birgas, D [Owen Sound Attack]
60. San Jose Sharks [From PIT] – Brett Pesce, D [New Hampshire Wildcats]
61. Winnipeg Jets [From CHI] – Jan Kostalek, D [Rimouski Oceanic]


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Not bad as a hab fan I would like klimchuk and Lehkonen but heatherington and poirier are also good. Hagg is just the BPA at that point in the draft

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Nice work! But can I have some explanation on why:

1- Koys is higher than Karlsson and Pépin. When I watched Koys he did nothing at all and he is 1 year older.

2- Dal Colle is low like that. Watching him and Keegan Iverson demonstrate that Dal Colle is much better with better upside. But maybe you have explanation and I'm welling to hear you.


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Nice work! But can I have some explanation on why:

1- Koys is higher than Karlsson and Pépin. When I watched Koys he did nothing at all and he is 1 year older.

2- Dal Colle is low like that. Watching him and Keegan Iverson demonstrate that Dal Colle is much better with better upside. But maybe you have explanation and I'm welling to hear you.


For the rest, good job! I like what you have done!
Thank you!

I don't get to watch a lot of Europeans until their draft year, so I am probably missing a lot of 2014 Swedish, Finnish, Russians, and other European players. Actually 2014 is a very interesting draft because I consider it average like a lot of people, but it's very strong in terms of European players with a high Swede, high German, high Russian perhaps going in the top 15-20 and then have a few good Finnish and Latvian players around the late first and 2nd.

I have seen Dal Colle around ten times and believe in one game he really stood out for me. Not a huge fan of him, but if there is one player who can sky rocket the rankings I think it's him. In terms of Iverson I do agree that Dal Colle has probably more potential, but Keegan was playing a checking line role and played it at a consistent rate. Plus he got some powerplay time last year and didn't look out of place as well. With Rattie, Peters, and others leaving the Winterhawks his role will expand and I believe he will handle it.

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Weird to see McCarron omitted from your list

Happy with the mock results for Carolina though!

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No Sam Bennett in 2014? He is rated first round on other drafts

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I stopped reading when you had the Avs drafting Seth Jones.

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Weird to see McCarron omitted from your list

Happy with the mock results for Carolina though!
Like I said I am probably going to miss a few players here and there.

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I stopped reading when you had the Avs drafting Seth Jones.
Ok Caps fan.


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I got a pretty good chuckle at his Liquor.

Among others I also see McCarron as a surpising omission. I think he's gone before pick #45.

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this is solid for buffalo however at 52 i think buff would take one of bailey or duclair maybe even birgas, Monahan at 8 is perfect, morrisey at 16 is good value but i would rather have pulock at 16 maybe even wennberg.
At 38 buchnevich is really good, solid sniping offensive talent but i prefer bjorkstrand or morin or dauphin, I like how you gave a detailed explanation for all first round picks and didn't just throw names all over the place.your thoughts on stantini, lodge and bowey, i believe they are lower than the norm. Good work

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2nd rounder for me.
I'd be interested to hear why.

Had a tremendous rookie season in the OHL. Played terrific as an underager at the Under 18's. Has decent size. Plays a complete game.

He'll be one of the top guys available from the OHL for 2014.

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Solid list, but I doubt the Oilers pass on Monahan. I also doubt they take Lehkonen with Morin still on the board.

Overall great work, interesting read.

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I'd be interested to hear why.

Had a tremendous rookie season in the OHL. Played terrific as an underager at the Under 18's. Has decent size. Plays a complete game.

He'll be one of the top guys available from the OHL for 2014.
He had a great rookie season, for sure.

Don't find this hypocritical of me, but I like Goldobin more. When I watched both of them last year (only 2-3 times so tiny), Goldobin was much more noticeable and used his fantastic stickhandling, skating, and vision to slip by defensemen. Bennett definitely has the same skills as Goldobin, but was more of a checker in those games. I did like his physicality considering he weighs around 170. I am looking forward to see what what extra muscle he brings in next season and what an expanded role will do for him. Only problem is I think I will prefer Goldobin with a more larger role and more muscle on his bones.

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fyi winnipeg owns chicago's 2nd rnd pick

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2nd rounder for me.


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No offense, but there are glaring errors here. Not just differences of opinion. We differ in opinion about Shinkaruk. I think he will go in the bottom half of the first round. Towards the end of the first round. No way he is taken eighth.

In your mock you have the Oilers passing on Monahan to take Nurse. I will eat my own soiled underwear if that actually happens. Not a snowballs chance. They also arent going to take Lehkonen with their second round pick. Not another right winger, which is the most stacked position on the team, and glaring holes just about everywhere else. Im convinced they take Jarry with their second, that is if he is still available, which he might not be.

He wasnt even listed in your final rankings. That isnt happening on draft day. Neither was McCarron, which is bath salts talk. Madison Bowey is ranked too low imo as well.

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Don't agree with everything, but it's a decent mock. Interesting that you've reached with a few players and dropped a few others. Makes for interesting discussion.

I'll be releasing my mock for this year some time this week, so will be interested in comparing with other mocks. Thanks for one such sample.

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No offense, but there are glaring errors here. Not just differences of opinion. We differ in opinion about Shinkaruk. I think he will go in the bottom half of the first round. Towards the end of the first round. No way he is taken eighth.

In your mock you have the Oilers passing on Monahan to take Nurse. I will eat my own soiled underwear if that actually happens. Not a snowballs chance. They also arent going to take Lehkonen with their second round pick. Not another right winger, which is the most stacked position on the team, and glaring holes just about everywhere else. Im convinced they take Jarry with their second, that is if he is still available, which he might not be.

He wasnt even listed in your final rankings. That isnt happening on draft day. Neither was McCarron, which is bath salts talk. Madison Bowey is ranked too low imo as well.
Gagner just had a break out season where he was on pace for 60+ points, but the oilers need a center? how?, the oilers D is atrocious, and before you say "well we have good D prospects" Musil would be fortunate to be a top 4, petry doesn't cut it IMO, too many brain farts when i have senn him (rarely i'll admit) klefbom COULD be a top pairing D-man but i think he becomes a solid number 3, kinda like a hjalmarsson like career, schultz is a top pairing PMD, the common thing is ther is no BRUISING,PHYSICAL D-MAN, and adam foote type player, make it hard to get to the net. Nurse should be their guy, would make sense.
Look what methot did alongside Karlsson.

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Nailed it for SJ. Love the Erne and Lodge picks, and Bowey is one of the few defensemen I'd be pleased to take, as I think he's got lots of upside. I'd rather see De La Rose than Pesce, but that's a positional need.

Good read, regardless.

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Carrier seems like a player whose stock is falling from an early 2nd rounder to a late 2nd rounder. Don't see him getting back into the 1st at this point.

As others have said, McCarron will get taken in the top 60, almost definitely in the top 45.

But overall good job.

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Gagner just had a break out season where he was on pace for 60+ points, but the oilers need a center? how?, the oilers D is atrocious, and before you say "well we have good D prospects" Musil would be fortunate to be a top 4, petry doesn't cut it IMO, too many brain farts when i have senn him (rarely i'll admit) klefbom COULD be a top pairing D-man but i think he becomes a solid number 3, kinda like a hjalmarsson like career, schultz is a top pairing PMD, the common thing is ther is no BRUISING,PHYSICAL D-MAN, and adam foote type player, make it hard to get to the net. Nurse should be their guy, would make sense.
Look what methot did alongside Karlsson.
Sam Gagner is a black hole defensively. Worst Oiler forward GAON/60 5v5. He cant win face offs and he is weak on the puck. Falls over in a stiff breeze and routinely misses defensive assignments. Our center depth in the organization consists of RNH, Gagner, Horcoff, Smithson, Belanger, Lander and Martindale.

If you think the Oilers are going anywhere near the playoffs with a center lineup like that you are riding unicorns over flying pigs while mermaids frolic on the beaches of Atlantis.

Nurse is a good player and would be someone the Oilers could use, however they could use Monahan/Lazar/Horvat/Lindholm more.

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11. Philadelphia Flyers – Nikita Zadorov, D [London Knights]
Oh man Flyers fans must be happy in their situation. They desperately need a solid defenseman and what is better than huge body, hard-hitting Zadorov. Best yet he is best player available at #11, but a few years away from making an impact due to being raw. He has an underrated offensive game and skating ability that makes him a complete package.
yes please..... Sir.

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No way Gauthier is there at 24, let alone at 15 where the Islanders would snatch him up if he's there.

Which he won't be sadly.

and Bailey will be gone by 40.

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He had a great rookie season, for sure.

Don't find this hypocritical of me, but I like Goldobin more. When I watched both of them last year (only 2-3 times so tiny), Goldobin was much more noticeable and used his fantastic stickhandling, skating, and vision to slip by defensemen. Bennett definitely has the same skills as Goldobin, but was more of a checker in those games. I did like his physicality considering he weighs around 170. I am looking forward to see what what extra muscle he brings in next season and what an expanded role will do for him. Only problem is I think I will prefer Goldobin with a more larger role and more muscle on his bones.
Fair enough. Not hypocritical at all. Just wanted to read your reasoning behind the thought process. Goldobin is a tremendous prospect. I'm curious to see how he does in Sarnia next year under a new coach and when he has to run the show offensively. He's certainly a very talented offensive player and a guy I was incredibly impressed with this year.

It's just that (for me), Bennett was maybe the best '96 in the league behind Aaron Ekblad.

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