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10-08-2006, 11:38 AM
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Nigel Dawes / Petr Prucha

Just wondering what line Nigel Dawes is playing on and how he has looked so far?
Also, what seems to be the potential of these 2 guys?

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10-08-2006, 11:52 AM
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Just wondering what line Nigel Dawes is playing on and how he has looked so far?
Also, what seems to be the potential of these 2 guys?
Dawes is playing with Blair Betts and Adam Hall. He didn't look great in the 1st game, but looked better last night. I'd say Prucha will eventually become a 40-goal scorer, but I don't know what to say yet about Dawes.

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anyone notice that Sam kept saying "Michael Dawes?"

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He was fine in both games. Pay no attention to Mr. Orr.


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anyone notice that Sam kept saying "Michael Dawes?"
Thought the same thing for awhile, but it's just the way he calls "nigel"

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He was fine in both games. Pay no attention to Mr. Orr.

? Didn't see anything impressive in game 1 sorry

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? Didn't see anything impressive in game 1 sorry
I have to agree with that.

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10-08-2006, 12:46 PM
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We've been over this:

He played 8:30. Got the puck deep, showed good hustle on the forecheck and backcheck, had a nice behind the back play that almost resulted in a Betts goal, and showed good offensive awareness in finding holes behind the defense.

It's all speed and noise with you guys. If the player doesn't make a crashing hit, or going firing down the ice at 100 mph (even if its just for one play!) the guy wasn't effective, and didn't play well.

He had fewer minutes last night and played the exact same game: got the puck deep, forechecked well, did a nice job in helping the defenseman clear the zone multiple times. But because he didn't light the world on fire with one dynamic/spectacular play he didn't have a good game.

It's a damn shame.

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10-08-2006, 12:53 PM
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We've been over this:

He played 8:30. Got the puck deep, showed good hustle on the forecheck and backcheck, had a nice behind the back play that almost resulted in a Betts goal, and showed good offensive awareness in finding holes behind the defense.

It's all speed and noise with you guys. If the player doesn't make a crashing hit, or going firing down the ice at 100 mph (even if its just for one play!) the guy wasn't effective, and didn't play well.

He had fewer minutes last night and played the exact same game: got the puck deep, forechecked well, did a nice job in helping the defenseman clear the zone multiple times. But because he didn't light the world on fire with one dynamic/spectacular play he didn't have a good game.

It's a damn shame.

So far I'm not impressed with Dawes, but I'm also not disappointed, I think it's far too harsh to judge him right away based on a couple of NHL games. Let him play a while and then form an opinion. Heck, Marcel Hossa is still being given a shot to show what he got, the least you can do is give Dawes 20 games.

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10-08-2006, 01:52 PM
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I didn't really notice Dawes much in game 1, most likely because he didn't get much ice time. Game 2 I noticed him a lot more, not sure what his ice time was though. I think he will continue to improve with each game as he adjusts to the NHL.

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We've been over this:

He played 8:30. Got the puck deep, showed good hustle on the forecheck and backcheck, had a nice behind the back play that almost resulted in a Betts goal, and showed good offensive awareness in finding holes behind the defense.

It's all speed and noise with you guys. If the player doesn't make a crashing hit, or going firing down the ice at 100 mph (even if its just for one play!) the guy wasn't effective, and didn't play well.

He had fewer minutes last night and played the exact same game: got the puck deep, forechecked well, did a nice job in helping the defenseman clear the zone multiple times. But because he didn't light the world on fire with one dynamic/spectacular play he didn't have a good game.

It's a damn shame.

Dawes also had a great scoring chance in each game. I like Dawes and I'm happy he is on the team. I think the worst thing that could happend to Dawes is people expecting him to be this years Prucha..

His fewer minutes were because of the amount of penalties called. when the rangers are playing 5 on 5 hockey renney is rolling 4 lines..

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looks guys.. its all about confidence. Dawes, eventually will be in the right place at the right time. All he needs is a little boost right now. He's not exactly on a line that can muster much offense IMO, with Betts constantly hogging the puck on 3-on-1's.

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Can't expect much in his first game with his limited ice time, but he's been OK in both games. He needs to adjust to the tempo of an NHL game, and with limited ice time, or a penalty filled game, there's no flow, and he'll struggle a bit. He'll settle down after he gets a few more games under his belt.

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looks guys.. its all about confidence. Dawes, eventually will be in the right place at the right time. All he needs is a little boost right now. He's not exactly on a line that can muster much offense IMO, with Betts constantly hogging the puck on 3-on-1's.
In all seriousness, I've noticed it also - Betts always seems to think "shoot first." And, Hossa, who is said to be more of a playmaker by nature can't really pass well. He should at least be getting some PP time on the second unit, and if he puts together a good period, why not elevate him?

I personally haven't noticed him yet... I'm focusing on Cullen, Hall and Ward.

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In all seriousness, I've noticed it also - Betts always seems to think "shoot first." And, Hossa, who is said to be more of a playmaker by nature can't really pass well. He should at least be getting some PP time on the second unit, and if he puts together a good period, why not elevate him?

I personally haven't noticed him yet... I'm focusing on Cullen, Hall and Ward.

I agree playing on a line with Betts is not going to help his stats. He actually played well in the first game, I remember at least once he was driving to the net and was wide open, but Betts didn't seem him and never passed him the puck.

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Well than we can't blame him, I guess. He's better off being fed the puck. I think centers should naturally dish the puck more than they shoot it... and Betts has not proven much of shooter, although he always shoots.

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10-08-2006, 11:23 PM
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Nigel has played the kind of hockey that I expected. Conservative, practical not taking any chances that would put him out of position defensively. He looks a bit nervous, but he's still getting his chances and making some good plays. He's doing what he did last year with the 'Pack, adapting. Once he gets comfortable (20 games or so) he'll be fine.

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Give him some time and some better linemates and he'll produce eventually.

Betts shooting on every odd-man rush that happens when their line is out isn't going to help him at all, and neither is Hall not being much of a playmaker.

Nigel needs to get power play time, I think he could help the units somewhat. At this point, Renney should be open to anything and everything to get the "man advantage" going.

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Prucha was..

a year or two older than Dawes, so right there is a flaw in the comparison, and in those extra years he played in a league that could be considered a bit more competitive than the AHL, and in the season before the lockout, was a heck of a lot better. Let's see where Dawes in mid-season. I'd think that by then he'd be starting to his his stride.

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He had fewer minutes last night and played the exact same game: got the puck deep, forechecked well, did a nice job in helping the defenseman clear the zone multiple times. But because he didn't light the world on fire with one dynamic/spectacular play he didn't have a good game.
You're right. What exactly are people looking for? Just like comparing Henke to Montoya, people need to realize that Prucha is older and has had more developmental time than Dawes. I like what I have seen from Nigel. He has shown good speed, hustle and moves. Eventually the shots will go in. Playing with Betts certainly does nothing to improve the stat sheet.

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