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06-05-2013, 05:15 PM
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all that without knowing who was available.

tough crowd.
I'm happy with Morrissey. Tough crowd indeed.

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06-05-2013, 05:23 PM
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Morrissey
McCarron
Bailey
Poirier
Wheaton
Dunn



Getting Poirier at 55 would salvage some of the other questionable picks.
I'd be very happy with that. Great job.

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06-05-2013, 05:36 PM
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I'd be very happy with that. Great job.
I don't know about Wheaton and Dunn but if that's the lower end of what we can possibly get then this draft is going to be ridiculously amazing.

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06-05-2013, 06:00 PM
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Came away with these in a mock draft

Morrissey
McCarron
Bailey
Poirier
Wheaton
Dunn
That's a very good draft, I'd be happy if the habs manage to get these players.

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06-05-2013, 06:04 PM
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all that without knowing who was available.

tough crowd.
Don't worry. That's a pretty good draft and all the players you selected have some very nice qualities.

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06-05-2013, 06:22 PM
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all that without knowing who was available.

tough crowd.
First 4 picks are pretty good IMO, but Wheaton and Dunn are way too high... still, just shows the depth of this draft

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06-05-2013, 06:28 PM
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Here is my top 60. It is not really my top 60 because I am no scout, it is just an average of rankings from 10 sources which includes some guides (I won't pay for them all) and some media types that delve into the rankings such as Button, McKenzie etc. It will likely change slightly with MacKenzie's and Sonier's final rankings but probably not by much. Some sources rate players very differently than others, this is just how it averages out. I actually have it to the top 300

1 Jones
2 Mackinnon
3 Drouin
4 Barkov
5 Nicushkin
6 Lindholm
7 Monahan
8 Nurse
9 Zadorov
10 Domi
11 Wennberg
12 Ristolainen
13 Horvat
14 Shinkaruk
15 Pulock
16 Lazar
17 Morrissey
18 Mantha
19 Erne
20 Zykov
21 Gauthier
22 Hagg
23 Rychel
24 Burakowsky
25 Morin
26 Mueller
27 Bowey
28 Hartman
29 Petan
30 Klimchuk
31 Compher
32 Lehkonen
33 Fucale
34 Dickinson
35 Theodore
36 Santini
37 Dauphin
38 Hurley
39 De La Rose
40 Heatherington
41 Poirier
42 Bigras
43 Bailey
44 McCoshen
45 Nastasiuk
46 Lodge
47 McCarron
48 Buchnevich
49 Dano
50 Subban
51 Duclair
52 Fitzgerald
53 Roy, MO
54 Thompson
55 Bjorkstrand
56 Vannelli
57 Carrier
58 Sorensen
59 Kostalek
60 Roy, E

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06-05-2013, 07:04 PM
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In the mocks where you have 30 poster drafting each for a different team (vs mocks with one poster/service only spreading picks for all 30 teams), you almost always end up with the Erne/Compher/Petan trio from 25 to our next pick. Then it's the usual 2nd round forwards available for our early 2nd....

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06-05-2013, 08:09 PM
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Not a huge fan of McCarron but 6'5.5 235 pounds wow

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06-05-2013, 08:28 PM
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Not a huge fan of McCarron but 6'5.5 235 pounds wow
And that's why, to answer your question in the combine thread, he may go in round 1. You can't teach that type of size. And if he's merely decent to good in other areas (which seems to be the case), he could become quite a player if he can put it all together.

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06-05-2013, 08:34 PM
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25 - McCarron/Mantha
34 - McCoshen/Dickinson
36 - Bailey/Bowey
55 - Hayden/Diaby
71 - Sanford/Duclair
86 - Buckles/LaPlante

Yes...No ....Maybe

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06-05-2013, 08:37 PM
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And that's why, to answer your question in the combine thread, he may go in round 1. You can't teach that type of size. And if he's merely decent to good in other areas (which seems to be the case), he could become quite a player if he can put it all together.
Thing about McCarron is in a normal draft I would go for him but I like tons of guys this year that are safer picks and will become good nhler a where as McCarron could become a great power forward but also could become a bust. However if Timmins picks him I think he will become a good nhler

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06-05-2013, 08:39 PM
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I hope the Habs take McCoshen or Mueller if they are available at 25th.

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06-05-2013, 08:40 PM
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25 - McCarron/Mantha
34 - McCoshen/Dickinson
36 - Bailey/Bowey
55 - Hayden/Diaby
71 - Sanford/Duclair
86 - Buckles/LaPlante

Yes...No ....Maybe
The bolded is pretty close to an ideal draft for me. Hell even if we ended up with the other guys I wouldn't be upset, I like most of those players.

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06-05-2013, 08:43 PM
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25 - McCarron
34 - McCoshen
36 - Bailey
55 - Hayden
71 - Sanford
86 - Buckles/LaPlante

Yes...No ....Maybe
McCoshen will probably go before McCarron, but if the draft unfolded like that, I'd be pretty happy.

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06-05-2013, 08:43 PM
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Liking these U-18 highlights videos

Two of my favorites for the second round, Laplante showing crazy hustle and intensity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8JavKInAjg


and Dauphin showing off slick hands and agility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut00M28FZ4Q


Craig Button shouts "Dauphin has been Canada's best player by far in the final" in case anyone missed it

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06-05-2013, 08:45 PM
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Here is my top 60. It is not really my top 60 because I am no scout, it is just an average of rankings from 10 sources which includes some guides (I won't pay for them all) and some media types that delve into the rankings such as Button, McKenzie etc. It will likely change slightly with MacKenzie's and Sonier's final rankings but probably not by much. Some sources rate players very differently than others, this is just how it averages out. I actually have it to the top 300

1 Jones
2 Mackinnon
3 Drouin
4 Barkov
5 Nicushkin
6 Lindholm
7 Monahan
8 Nurse
9 Zadorov
10 Domi
11 Wennberg
12 Ristolainen
13 Horvat
14 Shinkaruk
15 Pulock
16 Lazar
17 Morrissey
18 Mantha
19 Erne
20 Zykov
21 Gauthier
22 Hagg
23 Rychel
24 Burakowsky
25 Morin
26 Mueller
27 Bowey
28 Hartman
29 Petan
30 Klimchuk
31 Compher
32 Lehkonen
33 Fucale
34 Dickinson
35 Theodore
36 Santini
37 Dauphin
38 Hurley
39 De La Rose
40 Heatherington
41 Poirier
42 Bigras
43 Bailey
44 McCoshen
45 Nastasiuk
46 Lodge
47 McCarron
48 Buchnevich
49 Dano
50 Subban
51 Duclair
52 Fitzgerald
53 Roy, MO
54 Thompson
55 Bjorkstrand
56 Vannelli
57 Carrier
58 Sorensen
59 Kostalek
60 Roy, E
Cool, nice work. Though that would be bad in terms of picking at 25 IMO, as my top 17 forwards are off the board. In this scenario I guess I'd go with Hartman in round 1. Do like a bunch of guys in round 2 though, what with Dickinson, McCarron/Buchnevich as possibilities.

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06-05-2013, 09:08 PM
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25 - McCarron/Mantha
34 - McCoshen/Dickinson
36 - Bailey/Bowey
55 - Hayden/Diaby
71 - Sanford/Duclair
86 - Buckles/LaPlante

Yes...No ....Maybe
With the choices you presented, I had to go with Mantha. I really think we need to grab at least 1 pure offensive player with those top 3 picks - guys with great tools who haven't really produced like Dickinson and Bailey don't fit the bill on that criteria.

I hate how you had D's I like in both options at 34 and 36. If it had been McCoshen/Bowey, I would have gone McCoshen. Then I would have taken Dickinson ahead of Bailey, but I wouldn't really object to taking Bailey. They are basically the same player to me, both have great tools and haven't put it together. Bailey is bigger but Dickinson is better defensively.

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Interesting tidbit.

Teams have told Poirier that he'd get pick between 20th and 40th in the draft during the interviews.

Dans ses entrevues, les équipes lui ont fait savoir qu'il serait réclamé entre le 20e et le 40e rang. Sur la liste du centre de recrutement de la LNH, le nom de Poirier apparaît au 39e rang chez les patineurs nord-américains.

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Cool, nice work. Though that would be bad in terms of picking at 25 IMO, as my top 17 forwards are off the board. In this scenario I guess I'd go with Hartman in round 1. Do like a bunch of guys in round 2 though, what with Dickinson, McCarron/Buchnevich as possibilities.
yeah I'm thinking this list could be a very reasonable simulation. I think teams are going to go forward heavy after going D man heavy last draft which most likely means no Lazar, Erne, Mantha, Gauthier, Zykov for us.

I wouldn't mind a really solid D man with our first pick but I still like the idea of getting one of these guys or maybe a Hartman or Mccarron.

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With the choices you presented, I had to go with Mantha. I really think we need to grab at least 1 pure offensive player with those top 3 picks - guys with great tools who haven't really produced like Dickinson and Bailey don't fit the bill on that criteria.
I'm still holding to the belief that I'm comfortable in not doing so this year as we spent 3 of our first 4 picks on pure offensive players last year.

Well I mean, I'm not saying I don't want offensive players...but I'm saying I feel like we have a lot of leeway to fill in some blanks this year because of our picks last year.

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Adam Erne Left Wing
Height 6.01 -- Weight 210 -- Shoots L
He's improving every year. He'll probably end up 6'2" 225lbs. Can score, isn't afraid to hit and play in the dirty areas. I would say he'll end up a powerforward. I compare him to James Neal.

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Anthony Mantha Right Wing
Height 6.04 -- Weight 190 -- Shoots L
I hope this guy falls to our second round. He's big, needs to work on skating, but has great hands. He'll bring size and skills to the team. Reminds me of Bryan Bickell/Todd Bertuzzi.

#36
Laurent Dauphin Center
Height 6.00 -- Weight 165 -- Shoots L
He's a bit undersize but he'll fill out his 6'0 frame 190lbs. What separates him is that I think he's an effortless skater and amazing hands. Reminds me of Simon Gagne.

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06-05-2013, 09:16 PM
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Emile poirier's scouting report in THN draft preview say his down fall is his skating and his awkward stride. I find that weird because I thought he looked fast and a above average skater

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I'm still holding to the belief that I'm comfortable in not doing so this year as we spent 3 of our first 4 picks on pure offensive players last year.

Well I mean, I'm not saying I don't want offensive players...but I'm saying I feel like we have a lot of leeway to fill in some blanks this year because of our picks last year.
That's how I feel. I could live with physical grinder types who are just skilled enough to play great complimentary roles on scoring lines like Prust. I'd be fine with two of the better prospects of that stripe no doubt. We need those players in our system pretty badly.

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06-05-2013, 09:21 PM
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What ever we do, we MUST keep our 34th and 36th picks. I would NOT be ok with moving up a few spots and losing one of these. It would be incredibly stupid in such a deep draft.

Hell, if our main targets at 25 are already gone, I'd even be willing to trade out of the 1st round completely to pick up another early 2nd rounder and another 3rd or 4th. It's THAT deep of a draft. Three early 2nd's would be incredible.

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