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06-05-2013, 10:27 PM
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Kadri, Gardiner, TOR 21st overall for TB 3rd overall

How about this trade for your 3rd

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How about this trade for your 3rd
Nowhere near good enough. #3 will yield a franchise player. None of the three pieces you offered will be a franchise player, and all 3 combined wouldn't equal one in terms of value.

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How about this trade for your 3rd
This works well in terms of value, but the Lightning have no need for Kadri.

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Wow not enough I think most people would say its way too much

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Wow not enough I think most people would say its way too much
I agree with you. Like I said, it works well in terms of value, but not need.

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I'd agree on value, but I don't see need.

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Kadri's also an RFA...what's he going to command salary-wise? Then Gardiner will be an RFA after next year too.

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Good value but no need to do it

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I'd do it. We'd have the best C core in the league, if Vinny gets hurt we don't lose much. Wish Gardiner were a righty so he could be a partner for Hedman. He'd make Brewer expendable or Carle a buyout candidate if he sucks again next year. 21 we could possibly get a Pulock/Zadarov/Ristolian if they fall. The #3 isn't guaranteed to be a superstar, if we get Droiun and he's like Kane and a PPG player that's good. Kadri can be a 70 point player, Gardiner 50 + a solid NHLer at 21. We'd be a better team next year and going forwards as all 3 are young.

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Pass. Kadri is fine, but we've got lots of fine. Gardiner is overrated, and I know that because I went to Wisconsin and have watched him a lot longer than any Leaf fan has.

This org has plenty of quantity. The point is to acquire some more quality.

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Pass. Kadri is fine, but we've got lots of fine. Gardiner is overrated, and I know that because I went to Wisconsin and have watched him a lot longer than any Leaf fan has.

This org has plenty of quantity. The point is to acquire some more quality.
Right, because...
1) It's not possible that a Leaf fan went to Wisconsin...
2) Players don't improve at all from university.

BTW, Leafs would be stupid to do this trade, not sure why the OP decided to offer this.

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Right, because...
1) It's not possible that a Leaf fan went to Wisconsin...
2) Players don't improve at all from university.

BTW, Leafs would be stupid to do this trade, not sure why the OP decided to offer this.
Don't be pedantic. I've been watching him since his college days and have watched him play plenty of games in the AHL/NHL, and I don't see the potential elite player I'm told that I'm supposed to see. How does that sound?

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Pass obviously. We have too many forwards as is and I wouldn't be interested in dropping down that far.

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No thanks. Opportunity to draft an elite player at 3 is too good to pass up.

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You know, as a former Leaf fan, I really don't understand you people.....I go back to the days of Dave Keon, Ron Ellis, Norm Ullman and Jacques Plante and I somewhat feel for you, but for the past 30-some years you trade for old has-beens and never get anywhere and now you finally start to build a team the right way and you want to get rid of your up-and-coming stars for the next great prospect?

Why don't you just practice a little patience and build on what you have? Of course, since we're in the same division now, I hope you lose every game to us, but I just don't get you guys anymore.

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You know, as a former Leaf fan, I really don't understand you people.....I go back to the days of Dave Keon, Ron Ellis, Norm Ullman and Jacques Plante and I somewhat feel for you, but for the past 30-some years you trade for old has-beens and never get anywhere and now you finally start to build a team the right way and you want to get rid of your up-and-coming stars for the next great prospect?

Why don't you just practice a little patience and build on what you have? Of course, since we're in the same division now, I hope you lose every game to us, but I just don't get you guys anymore.
As a current leaf fan, this trade is just ridiculous for both sides. Even if both of these guys are overrated, they still make up the soon-to-be core of the leafs. We already have a franchise winger, makes more sense for you guys to draft Drouin to replace st louis. As for you guys saying it's not enough, get real lol.


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Don't be pedantic. I've been watching him since his college days and have watched him play plenty of games in the AHL/NHL, and I don't see the potential elite player I'm told that I'm supposed to see. How does that sound?
Sounds a bit like your just not willing to give him credit for his development to be honest. Anyone who's watched him play at all recently can see how much talent and potential he has.


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How about this trade for your 3rd
First off Tampa Bay is up against the cap and there is no way that we can afford to take on players without shedding salary the other way. This deal would put us way over the cap.

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Im thinking if a transaction goes down Vinny will be included.

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First off Tampa Bay is up against the cap and there is no way that we can afford to take on players without shedding salary the other way. This deal would put us way over the cap.
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Im thinking if a transaction goes down Vinny will be included.
Vinny and the 3rd for the 21st a roster D+prospect OR Vinny+3rd for 21st overall, next years first and prospect.

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Vinny and the 3rd for the 21st a roster D+prospect OR Vinny+3rd for 21st overall, next years first and prospect.
To be honest I cant see Tampa giving up 3rd (Drouin or Mackinnon)

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To be honest I cant see Tampa giving up 3rd (Drouin or Mackinnon)
If they want to shed Vinny's salary what else is worth 45 million dollars?

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If they want to shed Vinny's salary what else is worth 45 million dollars?
I suppose, well whos going to Tampa from Toronto's D line?

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Now this **** is on our board too?

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I suppose, well whos going to Tampa from Toronto's D line?
Franson? I have no idea to be honest, I really don't know what you guys need or how you value our players. All I know is that Kadri+Gardiner+1st is crazy.

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