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06-06-2013, 04:40 PM
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The Sedins

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together? more than any team could give up for 2 players tbh

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1 year at 12.2 together isn't going to get much relative to how much value they bring to Vancouver. Unless salary goes back, only half the teams in the NHL have the cap room to fit both, and most of those teams aren't looking to trade young assets for one season of the Sedins. Vancouver should be in win now mode so if picks and prospects as the centerpiece to a deal isn't what you want, hold on to them instead.

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I'm of the belief that the Sedins are not players you can build around who will lead you to the stanley cup, I think that they are complementary players. If the Avs and Canucks were to engage in a trade for the Sedins, I'd be very upset if any of the following were given for them:

1st Overall pick
Duchene
Landeskog
O'Reilly
Parenteau
Downie
Johnson
Barrie
Elliott
Wilson
Siemens
Varlamov

So pretty much what's available is Stastny, Jones, McGinn, Hejda, McLeod, Mitchell and a few prospects but even then, I would hesitate about giving up Stastny. I think that the Sedins' best years are behind them

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It would have to be another teams 2 stars coming the other way... only way this remotely makes sense.

ie
Eriksson + Benn
Giroux + Voracek
Nugent-Hopkins + Hall
Thornton + Marleau

And even at that... it makes no sense.


*Other teams fans don't freak out. Im saying it would have to be a 2 for 2 star player swap for this to make sense. Those aren't actually proposals

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I doubt there are many, if any, teams in the NHL that are simultaneously: 1) competing for a cup right now 2) have the cap space for both Sedins and 3) have the expendable assets to acquire them in a trade.

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06-06-2013, 05:12 PM
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I'm of the belief that the Sedins are not players you can build around who will lead you to the stanley cup, I think that they are complementary players. If the Avs and Canucks were to engage in a trade for the Sedins, I'd be very upset if any of the following were given for them:


So pretty much what's available is Stastny, Jones, McGinn, Hejda, McLeod, Mitchell and a few prospects but even then, I would hesitate about giving up Stastny. I think that the Sedins' best years are behind them

I know your leaving the Division next year... but it really sounds like your not taking the breakup well...

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06-06-2013, 05:15 PM
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It'd have to be what Hossa/Kovi got x2 as a base for Vancouver to even consider trading them.

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I'm of the belief that the Sedins are not players you can build around who will lead you to the stanley cup, I think that they are complementary players. If the Avs and Canucks were to engage in a trade for the Sedins, I'd be very upset if any of the following were given for them:

1st Overall pick
Duchene
Landeskog
O'Reilly
Parenteau
Downie
Johnson
Barrie
Elliott
Wilson
Siemens
Varlamov

So pretty much what's available is Stastny, Jones, McGinn, Hejda, McLeod, Mitchell and a few prospects but even then, I would hesitate about giving up Stastny. I think that the Sedins' best years are behind them
i understand where you are coming from but some of the names you listed made me speechless

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It would have to be another teams 2 stars coming the other way... only way this remotely makes sense.

ie
Eriksson + Benn
Giroux + Voracek
Nugent-Hopkins + Hall
Thornton + Marleau

And even at that... it makes no sense.


*Other teams fans don't freak out. Im saying it would have to be a 2 for 2 star player swap for this to make sense. Those aren't actually proposals
LOL

The only one of those that might make sense would be Thornton Marleau because of age.

The rest of the trades are giving up better, significantly younger players signed to solid deals for aging stars with 1 year left.

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06-06-2013, 05:57 PM
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I'm of the belief that the Sedins are not players you can build around who will lead you to the stanley cup, I think that they are complementary players. If the Avs and Canucks were to engage in a trade for the Sedins, I'd be very upset if any of the following were given for them:

1st Overall pick
Duchene
Landeskog
O'Reilly
Parenteau?
Downie?
Johnson?
Barrie?
Elliott?
Wilson
Siemens?
Varlamov

So pretty much what's available is Stastny, Jones, McGinn, Hejda, McLeod, Mitchell and a few prospects but even then, I would hesitate about giving up Stastny. I think that the Sedins' best years are behind them
All of the above expect maybe Duchene are also complimentary players. The Sedins are better than almost every player on this list save for Duchene.

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06-06-2013, 05:58 PM
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Not going to happen. The Sedins have NMC and are signing one year deals from here on out. They'll stay in Vancouver until they go back to Sweden.

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Doubt they're made available.

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I doubt there are many, if any, teams in the NHL that are simultaneously: 1) competing for a cup right now 2) have the cap space for both Sedins and 3) have the expendable assets to acquire them in a trade.
This.

The value of the Sedins and what they could actually get are 2 seperate things. Altough the list of teams willing to take them could be expanded by accepting cap dumps back.

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The only one of those that might make sense would be Thornton Marleau because of age.

The rest of the trades are giving up better, significantly younger players signed to solid deals for aging stars with 1 year left.
Did you read the asterisk in my comment? It makes your post kind of irrelevant..

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I think this would be a GM's Death to take the Brothers. It can only end up badly.
There not moving now

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They won't get traded, they have NTCs and haven't indicated that they would waive. Also they would most likely only waive to go together to a contender and they cannot afford their combined salary

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Originally Posted by dahrougem2 View Post
I'm of the belief that the Sedins are not players you can build around who will lead you to the stanley cup, I think that they are complementary players. If the Avs and Canucks were to engage in a trade for the Sedins, I'd be very upset if any of the following were given for them:

1st Overall pick
Duchene
Landeskog
O'Reilly
Parenteau
Downie
Johnson
Barrie
Elliott
Wilson
Siemens
Varlamov

So pretty much what's available is Stastny, Jones, McGinn, Hejda, McLeod, Mitchell and a few prospects but even then, I would hesitate about giving up Stastny. I think that the Sedins' best years are behind them
This is one of the most ridiculous, and downright insulting list of untouchables I have seen. Everyone aside from Duchene and Landeskog would be OTB because none of them are at/will be on the level of the Sedins

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Did you read the asterisk in my comment? It makes your post kind of irrelevant..
Vancouver doesn't really have the kind of youth or high value assets that would be required to add to get young studs like you listed so yes it is still relevant.

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Gonna bump this thread when one of the sedins gets anther 100 point season

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zetterberg datsyuk and smith?

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zetterberg datsyuk and smith?
If it weren't completely impossible and I weren't emotionally attached to the Sedins I'd be all over this.

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Vancouver doesn't really have the kind of youth or high value assets that would be required to add to get young studs like you listed so yes it is still relevant.
Did you read the part where I said they werent proposals?

The part where I toldother teams fans not to get upset because it would have to be a 2 for 2 swap for star players?

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They're worth what all star players get in the last year of their deal, 1st, roster player, prospect. Much less than their true value.

Considering that a team would have to offer that x 2 and the Canucks likely want them back... it's probably not worth talking about.

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I doubt there are many, if any, teams in the NHL that are simultaneously: 1) competing for a cup right now 2) have the cap space for both Sedins and 3) have the expendable assets to acquire them in a trade.
This criteria leaves who left? OTT and NYI? I'm not even sure either are done their rebuilds. That said, those are the only two teams with the assets and cap space to get it done without totally gutting their team.

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They're worth what all star players get in the last year of their deal, 1st, roster player, prospect. Much less than their true value.

Considering that a team would have to offer that x 2 and the Canucks likely want them back... it's probably not worth talking about.
Buffalo has two 1st round picks this draft. They also have more than enough cap room, even before accounting for roster players going the other way. Not suggesting they would or should be interested, just saying that there are teams that could swing this without much trouble, if they wanted to.

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