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06-06-2013, 08:22 PM
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Spare me.

I was waiting for that "burst" of speed, a la Cole, and where was it? You are projecting what you want to believe about him, hoping that he finds that top gear that will enable him to pull away from defenders.He doesn't have it, or he'd be putting up bigger numbers and would be projected to go in the top 20.

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06-06-2013, 08:25 PM
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Dickinson looks slow.Don't get why you'd be excited about this guy.
Dickinson is a very good skater, highlights don't do him justice. You have to see him in a full game.

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06-06-2013, 08:26 PM
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at 25th wich player you DONT want?

DLR
Klimchuk
Bowey
Hartman
Theodore
The only ones I would take at 25 would be Hartman or Klimchuk

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06-06-2013, 08:38 PM
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25. Morgan Klimchuk/Frederik Gauthier/Curtis Lazar
34. Madison Bowey
36. Justin Bailey
55. Laurent Dauphin/Emile Poirier/Michael McCarron


Don't care about order. Just get 4.

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06-06-2013, 08:40 PM
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at 25th wich player you DONT want?

DLR
Klimchuk
Bowey
Hartman
Theodore
Dlr, Bowey are huge no.
I'm reticent at the idea of drafting Klimchuk there, but it could happen. Same with Theodore.
The only real #25 pick in this list is Hartsy

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The only ones I would take at 25 would be Hartman or Klimchuk
At the under 18 tournament...Dauphin played clearly better than Morgan Klimchuk...Gauthier and Santini also had a strong final game.

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06-06-2013, 08:43 PM
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Dickinson looks slow.Don't get why you'd be excited about this guy.
Hmm... I've heard lots of knocks against Dickinson, but I honestly don't ever recall hearing skating as one.

Dickinson is among the OHL's elite skaters. He possesses a powerful, long stride with top notch edge work and agility. He's got fantastic top end speed and good acceleration. He could stand to get more explosive, but he's very deceptive with his speed which makes up for it at this point in time.

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Can you rank thoses prospects please!

Shea Theodore
Jacob de la Rose
Adam Erne
Ryan Pulock
Josh Morissey
Robert Hagg
Samuel Morin
McCoshen
Andre Burakowsky
Kerby Rychel
Morrissey
Pulock
Morin
Burakowsky
Hagg
Erne
McCoshen
de la Rose
Theodore
Rychel

For me, Pulock and Morrissey are very, very close. After that, it gets really wide open. I like Morrissey more than Pulock. Better skater and a smarter offensive player overall. Pulock is super steady, but I see more upside with Morrissey.

As mentioned by Mrb1p, Theodore is a total wildcard. Sometimes I watched him and I really, really liked him and then others I often wondered if he had any understanding of how to play defence. I could easily see him being the player out of these, but also the one who makes the least of an impact in pro.

Out of the four forwards, I like Burakowsky's upside the most. I can see him being a top line winger, something that I can't say about de la Rose, Rychel, and Erne. I'm not a big fan of Erne, but it's to ignore his skillset - very strong, smart, and a great touch around the net. Rychel is last as I think there's far too many aspects of his game that need work.

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06-06-2013, 08:51 PM
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Talked to Dunn's father. He's an acquaintance of mine. Said the Bruins might be interested in his son.

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At the under 18 tournament...Dauphin played clearly better than Morgan Klimchuk...Gauthier and Santini also had a strong final game.
Yes I would rather have dauphin, but I was just going off of the players he listed.

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06-06-2013, 08:54 PM
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Can you rank thoses prospects please!

Shea Theodore
Jacob de la Rose
Adam Erne
Ryan Pulock
Josh Morissey
Robert Hagg
Samuel Morin
McCoshen
Andre Burakowsky
Kerby Rychel
Here is my top 30 as of today.....

1. Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Jonathan Drouin
Sasha Barkov
Elias Lindholm
Valery Nichushkin
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
Max Domi
Bo Horvat

Alexander Wennberg
Curtis Lazar
Mirco Mueller
Samuel Morin
Nikita Zadorov
Rasmus Ristolainen
Ryan Pulock
Joshua Morrissey
Michael McCarron
Frederik Gauthier


Hunter Shinkaruk
Ryan Hartman
Ian McCoshen
Adam Erne
Kerby Rychel
Anthony Mantha
Zachary Fucale
Andre Burakowsky
Robert Hagg
Tommy Vanelli

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06-06-2013, 09:04 PM
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no criterias... we need the players that will help this team the most, period.
Agreed. Totally agreed. I don't care about the position, the style, the name or the country of origin.


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06-06-2013, 10:03 PM
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Here is my top 30 as of today.....

1. Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Jonathan Drouin
Sasha Barkov
Elias Lindholm
Valery Nichushkin
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
Max Domi
Bo Horvat

Alexander Wennberg
Curtis Lazar
Mirco Mueller
Samuel Morin
Nikita Zadorov
Rasmus Ristolainen
Ryan Pulock
Joshua Morrissey
Michael McCarron
Frederik Gauthier


Hunter Shinkaruk
Ryan Hartman
Ian McCoshen
Adam Erne
Kerby Rychel
Anthony Mantha
Zachary Fucale
Andre Burakowsky
Robert Hagg
Tommy Vanelli
Wennberg, Lazar, Mueller and McCarron that high ? Shinraruk dropped that much in the rankings ? And Vanelli in the top 30... very interesting list, indeed.

Still 24 days of agony before the real thing...

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06-06-2013, 11:06 PM
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Yeah, Dickinson is a very good skater..

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06-06-2013, 11:41 PM
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My feeling is that the Habs won't be that interested in Mantha.
That they could draft Fucale if he's still there at 25 but wouldn't trade up to get him.
That they'd be more likely to trade up for Gauthier or, better, for Horvat.

I keep seeing Diaby with Montreal using one of their 3rd round picks...

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06-06-2013, 11:47 PM
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fingers crossed...

25 Mantha/Erne
34 Dickinson
36 Dauphin/Gauthier
55 Bailey

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06-06-2013, 11:51 PM
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Here is my top 30 as of today.....

1. Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Jonathan Drouin
Sasha Barkov
Elias Lindholm
Valery Nichushkin
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
Max Domi
Bo Horvat

Alexander Wennberg
Curtis Lazar
Mirco Mueller
Samuel Morin
Nikita Zadorov
Rasmus Ristolainen
Ryan Pulock
Joshua Morrissey
Michael McCarron
Frederik Gauthier


Hunter Shinkaruk
Ryan Hartman
Ian McCoshen
Adam Erne
Kerby Rychel
Anthony Mantha
Zachary Fucale
Andre Burakowsky
Robert Hagg
Tommy Vanelli
Mantha, Burakowsky, and Rychel are my top 3 (realistic) hopefuls at 25, so yes please!

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06-06-2013, 11:53 PM
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If Fucale is available at 25, Habs have to take him.

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06-07-2013, 12:20 AM
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If Fucale is available at 25, Habs have to take him.
God please no

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06-07-2013, 12:38 AM
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If Fucale is available at 25, Habs have to take him.
Not only do they not have to take him.......they won't.

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06-07-2013, 12:43 AM
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If Fucale is available at 25, Habs have to take him.
Why? His selection meets neither the 'need' nor the Best Player Available" approach. In fact, a strong argument could be made that Fucale isn't even the best goalie available in this draft. Unless there's a complex, draft and trade transaction in play, there is almost no chance Montreal takes Fucale at 25. But in this crazy draft there is only one certainty: that who ever Montreal takes at #25 someone on this board will be upset.

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06-07-2013, 03:20 AM
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Unless there's a complex, draft and trade transaction in play, there is almost no chance Montreal takes Fucale at 25. But in this crazy draft there is only one certainty: that who ever Montreal takes at #25 someone on this board will be upset.
Plausible scenario, given that new management may not be as supportive of Price or may no longer be as confident about Price remaining the team's franchise player.

Also, pretty odd for Geoff Molson to be interviewed about Price and having to defend his status with the team. French media is all over Price, with the usual suspects clamoring for a trade.

Who knows, if they can land an experienced goalie to bridge the gap, Fucale might become the go-to guy in a few years and Price might be expendable now that his value is still at its highest.

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06-07-2013, 03:23 AM
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Here is my top 30 as of today.....
No Zykov, Klimchuk or Poirier? Hope your list is prophetic as to how the draft unfolds on the big day, Grant. I'd love those guys to be available when the Habs make their 1st 3 picks. Ideally, if McCoshen slipped a little to be available to Habs at 25 with Habs picking up 2 of Zykov, Klimchuk or Poirier at 34 and 36 would make for quite a haul regardless of who the Habs chose after that.

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^ In a perfect world Bailey or Nastasiuk would be there with our third 2nd rounder. In fact I'd rather have Dauphin and Poirier with 32/36.

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My feeling is that the Habs won't be that interested in Mantha.
That they could draft Fucale if he's still there at 25 but wouldn't trade up to get him.
That they'd be more likely to trade up for Gauthier or, better, for Horvat.

I keep seeing Diaby with Montreal using one of their 3rd round picks...
Even if he's there at 25? Interesting. Thanks MAG.

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06-07-2013, 05:35 AM
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My feeling is that the Habs won't be that interested in Mantha.
That they could draft Fucale if he's still there at 25 but wouldn't trade up to get him.
That they'd be more likely to trade up for Gauthier or, better, for Horvat.

I keep seeing Diaby with Montreal using one of their 3rd round picks...
I don't doubt you. On the contrary. But I'd be really dissapointed if everything you mention happens. You don't disregard a 50-goal scorer even if he can work on character. You accept the freakin challenge and WORK on his character. Then, Fucale at 25 would be a mistake. He's good but not THAT Subban or Vasilevski good. How you end up with a worst goalie in a better draft year at that spot is not necessary. Trading up for Gauthier, for me, makes no sense. Picking up at 25? Fine. But no trade up, not enough certainty of being able to realise his upside, especially offensively. Horvat? Fine with me. And Diaby....well after going back and forth with him all year, loving him, hating him and so on....my final though is that he's a ND. IQ isn't that high. Looks good right now only because he has NHL size already.

So to not be entirely dissapointed, I would hope that if everything like that happens, Timmins 2nd rounders would need to be dynamite. But Fucale in the 1st is probably the only thing I really don't want to see. Geez, I want our team to be bigger and yet, I'd take way more Petan in the 1st round than Fucale....I even take Dickinson ahead of Fucale...that says it all....

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