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06-07-2013, 08:26 AM
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Hmmmm

That was last night

The context tweets around it are kind of important.

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Until Torres actually signs a contract to remain in SJ, he's an option.

The NHL is littered with players that state This is where I want to be only to sign somewhere else.

No tickie, no washie
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Hmmmm

That was last night
Saw those tweets this AM as well. Someone needs to remind Kane that he won't be playing in the cushy SE Division next year

Winnipeg going to be pushing for that Wild Card spot.

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Buff is consistently out of shape. Not sure why so many people want him...



Ruutu would be a good fit here. Very good skater. Very good hitter. Can add ~40 points. LW.

I wonder if, instead of amnestying him, they would just hold onto 1 million of his contract and trade him that way.
Buff is a beast of a man. 6'5" and 260-270lbs

cannon of a shot from the point AND is comfortable playing wing.

He would be a nice addition.

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Buff is a beast of a man. 6'5" and 260-270lbs

cannon of a shot from the point AND is comfortable playing wing.

He would be a nice addition.
Except the weight isn't from muscle, it's from fat. So the beast of a man part is kind of washed away.

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06-07-2013, 08:30 AM
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Ruutu is a solid player.. and a bit chippy.. can put up 40 +.. he can throw them a bit if needed http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/90932
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/39019 id love if he became a NY Ranger.. he can play wing and center.. this is a Sather type move.. get it done...
Yeah, he would fit, but not at 4.75. That's worse than Dubinsky's contract and we all thought he was overpaid.

~3-3.5 would be ideal.

I asked on the Avs board to see if McLeod would be available. The first response pretty much said "take him". I wonder if the Rangers could move Pyatt for him and play him on the 4th line. I think he would fit in well.

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The context tweets around it are kind of important.
Ah sorry, I saw it elsewhere on the boards.

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Buff is a beast of a man. 6'5" and 260-270lbs

cannon of a shot from the point AND is comfortable playing wing.

He would be a nice addition.
He is fat. He GAINED weight during the season 2 years ago. And it was like 20 lbs.

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Except the weight isn't from muscle, it's from fat. So the beast of a man part is kind of washed away.
Exactly.

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06-07-2013, 08:41 AM
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ohhhh boy if Ruutu gets bought out by the Canes I would love if Sather signed him. Always loved Tuomo's game.

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So, Avs fans are pretty much okay with moving McLeod. LW/C. Tough, good along the boards. Good for 6~10 goals and 200 PIM's. I think he would fit in nicely on the 4th line LW. Gives some insurance at center as well with his versatility.

Maybe Bourque + Pyatt for McLeod?

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Byfuglien is fat, but he's also very strong. That being said, I'm not sure why people think a guy with a big shot is going to solve our problems.

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ohhhh boy if Ruutu gets bought out by the Canes I would love if Sather signed him. Always loved Tuomo's game.
I posed the question to Canes fans and they really don't see it happening. Maybe we should scratch that idea.

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Byfuglien is fat, but he's also very strong. That being said, I'm not sure why people think a guy with a big shot is going to solve our problems.
Yeah but Kotalik!......I mean, McCabe!.....

Crap, ya got me there....

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I posed the question to Canes fans and they really don't see it happening. Maybe we should scratch that idea.
damit. We can hope.......who knows who's getting bought out?

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Byfuglien is fat, but he's also very strong. That being said, I'm not sure why people think a guy with a big shot is going to solve our problems.
I think it'd help the PP slightly - thats about it. Del Zotto played the best hockey of his career with Kotalik to his left as a triggerman.

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Why is everyone showing lineups without Zucc? The guy is clearly a second line skilled player. He should be signed to a 2 year 3 mill contract to show his worth.

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Yeah but Kotalik!......I mean, McCabe!.....

Crap, ya got me there....
I actually didn't mind McCabe here at all. The only Ranger since Leetch who could walk the blue line, and keep the puck in when it swings around the boards on the power play.

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Why is everyone showing lineups without Zucc? The guy is clearly a second line skilled player. He should be signed to a 2 year 3 mill contract to show his worth.
Preach.

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Alright, would anyone else do:

Pyatt + Bourque for McLeod + 6th '13?

I realize it's a minor move, but I would be much happier with McLeod than Pyatt and I don't feel Bourque will get a shot here. Send him back to play under Roy again like he did in the Q?

McLeod is @ 1.15 for 2 more years. Pyatt @ 1.55 for one more.

McLeod plays center or wing and will drop the gloves.

I would be much happier with that.

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I'd try and trade Pyatt for McBain long before McLeod.

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Alright, would anyone else do:

Pyatt + Bourque for McLeod + 6th '13?

I realize it's a minor move, but I would be much happier with McLeod than Pyatt and I don't feel Bourque will get a shot here. Send him back to play under Roy again like he did in the Q?

McLeod is @ 1.15 for 2 more years. Pyatt @ 1.55 for one more.

McLeod plays center or wing and will drop the gloves.

I would be much happier with that.
I'm on board with this but only if we bring Clowe back.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Hagelin - Brassard - Callahan
Clowe - Lindberg/Miller/Boyle - Zucc
Nystrom - Boyle/Lindberg/Miller - McLeod

That's a deep team. That's a fourth line that would wreak havoc in the playoffs.

Leaves Asham/Haley out of a job though.

EDIT - And I forgot Dorsett. I always forget players when I'm speculating lines.


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I'm on board with this but only if we bring Clowe back.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Hagelin - Brassard - Callahan
Clowe - Lindberg/Miller/Boyle - Zucc
Nystrom - Boyle/Lindberg/Miller - McLeod

That's a deep team. That's a fourth line that would wreak havoc in the playoffs.

Leaves Asham/Haley out of a job though.
...And what happens if when Miller/Lindberg aren't ready? Or we don't acquire Nystrom or McLeod? Suddenly, we're back to being very weak in the bottom 6.

In the top 6, what happens if Kreider continues to struggle? Or if that 2nd line cant consistently generate offense, which is a very real possibility.

Let me ask you a question - do you think that team could win a championship?

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why does everybody like Jamie McBain so much? From what I've seen of him this year he was horrible...

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I think it'd help the PP slightly - thats about it. Del Zotto played the best hockey of his career with Kotalik to his left as a triggerman.
I support the concept of having a trigger man on the PP, but $5.5M is a lot to invest in a point shot.

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I support the concept of having a trigger man on the PP, but $5.5M is a lot to invest in a point shot.
Oh I definitely agree. In terms of performance scaled to salary, Byuf would be pretty worthless, just like Kotalik.

I just don't think we have anyone on this team that can pump a shot from beyond the circles, and its a real problem on the PP.

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...And what happens if when Miller/Lindberg aren't ready? Or we don't acquire Nystrom or McLeod? Suddenly, we're back to being very weak in the bottom 6.

In the top 6, what happens if Kreider continues to struggle? Or if that 2nd line cant consistently generate offense, which is a very real possibility.

Let me ask you a question - do you think that team could win a championship?
Valid questions. I don't think that's how the team looks come the season opener, it's just a scenario I threw out and I agree with your questions, they're the right things to be asking.

I still think DZ goes at the draft for a top-6 winger, so that bumps Kreider. However, I do think in a new system Kreider will absolutely excel. Torts was trying to make him Hagelin. Kreider is not Hagelin. Their only similarity is their speed, that's it.

Lindberg has been playing in a men's league since 09-10. If he comes to NA, which it is believed he will AFAIK, I think he will absolutely impress. His faceoff skill and two-way play alone might get him a shot to open the season on the Rangers third line. Of course this is a very optimistic view though.

I do think though that you would be hardpressed to find any team out there without a single concern.

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I'd try and trade Pyatt for McBain long before McLeod.
If a d-man is moved without one coming back, maybe. I don't think it would take Pyatt to get McBain though.

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I'm on board with this but only if we bring Clowe back.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Hagelin - Brassard - Callahan
Clowe - Lindberg/Miller/Boyle - Zucc
Nystrom - Boyle/Lindberg/Miller - McLeod

That's a deep team. That's a fourth line that would wreak havoc in the playoffs.

Leaves Asham/Haley out of a job though.
Not sure they would need Nystrom if they bring in McLeod, which would be nice. Move Pyatt and his salary and no need to bring in a UFA.

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