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06-06-2013, 12:10 PM
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Negotiating with players from other leagues..

How does the KHL determine which team can negotiate with a player whose NHL or other European elite league contract is set to, or has expired in order to bring him into the KHL?

Is a negotiating list established for each team determined by some semblance of an informal draft?

Surely it's obvious that more than one KHL team bidding for the services of the same player is counterproductive as it would simply inflate the final price to be paid by any KHL team eventually succeeding in signing the player in question.

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How does the KHL determine which team can negotiate with a player whose NHL or other European elite league contract is set to, or has expired in order to bring him into the KHL?

Is a negotiating list established for each team determined by some semblance of an informal draft?

Surely it's obvious that more than one KHL team bidding for the services of the same player is counterproductive as it would simply inflate the final price to be paid by any KHL team eventually succeeding in signing the player in question.
that is easy.

If a player is not drafted in KHL, so every KHL club can negotiate with him. Lets look at Filppula Ilari, every KHL club had right to sign him, he signed with CSKA.

If a player is drafted, club needs to aquire his rights, like in NHL. Look at F Kubalik, Sibir drafted him, Lev aquired his rights today and can offer him a deal.

If any club holds rights for a player (f.e. RFA´s), the same steps like with draft.

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Surely it's obvious that more than one KHL team bidding for the services of the same player is counterproductive as it would simply inflate the final price to be paid by any KHL team eventually succeeding in signing the player in question.
Soccer and all sports work like that. I see no reason why hockey should be different. Yes, it does not work like that in NHL, but KHL is not NHL.

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that is easy.

If a player is not drafted in KHL, so every KHL club can negotiate with him. Lets look at Filppula Ilari, every KHL club had right to sign him, he signed with CSKA.

If a player is drafted, club needs to aquire his rights, like in NHL. Look at F Kubalik, Sibir drafted him, Lev aquired his rights today and can offer him a deal.

If any club holds rights for a player (f.e. RFA´s), the same steps like with draft.


Soccer and all sports work like that. I see no reason why hockey should be different. Yes, it does not work like that in NHL, but KHL is not NHL.
Thanks for the response.


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I should add that proceeding the way you've decribed Vorky, could very well lead to a two tiered league.

Isn't there a very real danger that 3 or 4 teams with megarich owners will set themselves far ahead of the other teams in the league by winning bidding wars for quality players entering the KHL from other pro leagues?

Won't fans of teams outside of these privileged 3 or 4 find it difficult and eventually impossible to support their teams financially and emotionally when they are never in a serious position to challenge for the Gagarin Cup?

Pro leagues generally try to work towards promoting and entrenching parity in order to avoid precisely such an unpleasant state of affairs within a league.


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russian clubs have limit of 5 foreigners per team, so they can not buy everyone from other pro leagues. In general, KHL works like soccer La Liga or Bundesliga etc, a few dominant clubs and rest of weaker teams.

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only in US

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russian clubs have limit of 5 foreigners per team, so they can not buy everyone from other pro leagues. In general, KHL works like soccer La Liga or Bundesliga etc, a few dominant clubs and rest of weaker teams.


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Спасибо.

Maybe it's a reflection of a cultural distinction.

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Pro leagues generally try to work towards promoting and entrenching parity
No they don't. Only in North America, not in Europe. In terms of parity the KHL is already ahead of European norms with its budget regulations and the draft, but I don't think they're going to take it any further.

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...could very well lead to a two tiered league.

Isn't there a very real danger that 3 or 4 teams with megarich owners will set themselves far ahead of the other teams in the league by winning bidding wars for quality players entering the KHL from other pro leagues?
"Could"? "Danger"? It's reality and daily routine in Europe. It's always been like that. Soccer, by far the most popular sport in Europe, has always worked that way since day 1 and it's more popular than ever as of 2013.

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Won't fans of teams outside of these privileged 3 or 4 find it difficult and eventually impossible to support their teams financially and emotionally when they are never in a serious position to challenge for the Gagarin Cup?
Empirical evidence shows that this is not the case.

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"Could"? "Danger"? It's reality and daily routine in Europe. It's always been like that. Soccer, by far the most popular sport in Europe, has always worked that way since day 1 and it's more popular than ever as of 2013.
I suggest you visit the soccer section over here, you might find quite a lot of differing opinions on whether it's working these days.

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