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06-08-2013, 08:20 PM
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Out of my personal top 6 worst exits, 3 of them were presided over by Bylsma. That's pretty impressive. And absolutely awful.
Wasn't his fault, man.

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Out of my personal top 6 worst exits, 3 of them were presided over by Bylsma. That's pretty impressive. And absolutely awful.
Montréal is the third? that was pretty bad for me personally. i completely mailed in a law school final so i could get over to a bar only to find the team was already down 4-0.

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Montréal is the third? that was pretty bad for me personally. i completely mailed in a law school final so i could get over to a bar only to find the team was already down 4-0.
Yeah......and I share the same sentiment of what Sidney Crosby said...."I still can't believe we lost." And then he went on to talk about how greatly we outplayed them. Which was true. But they scored on what seemed like every scoring opportunity they had. Of which there were few.

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Should change the wording into " Is this the Most Expected Playoff Exit in Pens History"? It was for at least me, because of the recent playoff history of this coaching staff, wouldn't have been shocked if the NYI or Ottawa dumped them.


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Last year was more embarrassing. This was just more of an ass beating.

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Last year was worse because I ****ing hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate the Flyers

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I'm not even embarrassed. Although, I am still feeling residual embarrassment about last year. I'm just pissed about this year more than anything, it became almost, morbidly, comical at one point.

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This was the most collectively un-inspired group of individualistic hockey I've witnessed in a while. Bylsma's gone and rightly so.

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The writing was on the wall back in the regular season. A perfect storm of things came together to give the Pens and their fans the ILLUSION that this team was "unstoppable" and that they would easily roll to the Cup.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis started off the season tearing up the league. They spent the entire offseason together building chemistry and figuring out each other's tendencies. For the first half of the season, the rest of the league was still shaking off the rust and it made that line look miles ahead of any other line. EVERYONE, including the players themselves overrated that line. Once the rest of the league hit their stride, we saw the production of that line really drop off.

After looking like a very average team for a while at the beginning of the season, Vokoun spoke up and told them to stop playing dumb and then they went on that 15 game winning streak. That streak really sent the hype machine into overdrive. This was before the trade deadline and everyone was already anticipating a big move or two from Shero. They felt that the team was already dominating and adding another piece or two would make them world beaters.

And that leads us to the trade deadline. Shero pulls the trigger on Morrow. Some people like the move, noting his "veteran presence" and "grit. Others don't like it because of what the Pens gave up. Then came Murray. Everyone loves the move because Murray is a mountain of a man that can throw checks with the best of them. Everyone is convinced that our blueline just got better. Then the big one, Iginla. The most coveted prize at the deadline decides to come to Pittsburgh to win the Cup that has eluded him for years. The fan base goes nuts. There is "no way that the Pens can lose now". The sports media up the hype even more by calling the Pens the most stacked team in decades. Confidence is at an all time high....or should I say OVERconfidence...Then we find out about Martin going down with a broken wrist.

Iggy's first game in Pittsburgh and Sid breaks his jaw. An omen? Perhaps. Everyone anticipated that Iggy would play with him and so they would just have to wait to see if that was the case. The Pens go back to looking mediocre for a few games and the streak is over. Everyone shrugs it off as the new guys just needing to assimilate to the system. No big deal.

Then the Pens go on a 7 game winning streak. Everyone is back on cloud nine. "Once Sid gets back, the Pens are going to roll".

Then Malkin goes down with what appeared to be a shoulder injury that nagged him into the playoffs. Then Neal goes down. Sid, Geno, Martin, and Neal, all out and the Pens are still winning. More over confidence from the fans, and apparently the organization. "When all these guys get back, look out NHL".

So Neal, Martin, and Geno are back for the end of the regular season and Neal nets a hat trick. "He's back!" The Pens see that the Isles are their 1st round opponents, and apparently, just like the fans, thought that it would be a cakewalk. Game 1 furthers that notion and many fans are crowing "SWEEP". Then, reality sets in. The Isles push back and make the Pens look very bad at times. Of course Fleury imploded and it was everyone to lay all the blame at his feet. Never mind all the other issues that surfaced, everyone just thought that Fleury was the problem and once he was on the bench, they were good to go. So they pull the series out, Vokoun is praised as a savior, and they are ready to roll into round 2.

The Sens series really got everyone thinking that the Pens were unstoppable. They lit up the Sens, the PP was clicking, and Vokoun and the d were shutting the Sens down. The media was raving about how the Pens were scoring more goals per game than any team in the last 25 years. Everyone got to the point in which they thought that the Pens would just overpower any team that they came up against.

Then comes Boston, a team with a system that requires every player to know their roles and where they need to be on the ice at all times. A solid d corps and a great goaltender. After beating the Bruins 3 times in the regular season BY BEATING THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME, apparently Bylsma and the boys decided to ride the wave of offense eruption and play a wide open, firewagon style game against them in game 1. Apparently the plan was to shell the Bruins early and often, pot a few goals, and then force the Bruins to play catch up, taking them out of their trap and opening things up more for the Pens. Only one problem, the "most stacked" team in decades, complete with three 50 goal scorers, one 40 goal scorer, and one of the most offensive defensemen in the game, couldn't bury just ONE of their chances. The Bruins eventually drew first blood, the "leaders" on the team got frustrated and blew their stacks at the end of the 2nd period, and from that point on Boston knew that they were in the Pens' heads. Their plan from that point on was to play their trap style of game, right from the puck drop, and just bide their time and wait. Take everything away from the Pens, target Sid and Geno, stay in position and don't allow any odd man rushes or cross ice passes to get through. Just keep frustrating the Pens and wait for their opportunity to score. And there was the difference. The Pens couldn't get anything to go, were getting frustrated and started forcing things, and the Bruins just waited for their chances to materialize. They didn't force anything, just let it come to them, and they buried their chances. By the time the Pens started playing Boston's style of play, they had already spotted them 2 games AT HOME and the implosion had already begun.

We can talk about bad bounces and bad officiating until we're blue in the face, but the Pens beat themselves in this series because of overconfidence and arrogance. Had they played the way that they beat them 3 times in the regular season, we probably wouldn't be posting on this thread right now, but instead, they bought into the hype and thought that their offense was unstoppable and so they tried that approach instead. And so he we are.

Some problems that haven't been solved in the past few years:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis is not a top line in the playoffs and never will be.

The refusal to park anyone in front of the net, especially on the PP, makes life really easy for the opposing goalie. Too easy.

The stupid, zone d that the Pens continue to run with. I am TIRED pf watching everyone allow the opposing team SO much time and space to wheel and deal in the defensive zone and get great chances.

Inability to beat the trap. 4 straight years and they still have no answer for it...

I hate to say it but Shero going "all in", the 15 and 7 game winning streaks, and Crosby's torrid scoring pace set all of this in motion, breeding overconfidence and a sense of entitlement from the fan base and the players. Case in point, Crosby's "we deserved better" remarks after the game.

It is pretty embarrassing to say the least. Most embarrassing? Perhaps. At least they were scoring in the Flyers series. Here, they looked like a club hockey team full of scrubs playing with each other for the first time. Bad passes, flubbed shots, missed nets, posts, terrible turnovers, etc. For having the "most stacked" offense in the league, they looked like they wouldn't have scored more than 2 goals in the series if Boston left the net open the whole time...

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06-09-2013, 08:25 AM
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I'm not embarrassed at all. It only took about 6 periods to see that the Bruins were the better team. What is embarrassing is the cockiness of the team in general and the way Sid melted down into his 18 year old self again.

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Thought last year was worse because of the times we were up 2-0,etc and losing the leads. Also every shot could have been a goal that series...also the fact that the entire team lost their composure almost every game. Plus we had to deal with the sean couturier is the best defensive player in the league because he "shut" down the MVP Malkin all off-season.

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Last year was more embarrassing. This was just more of an ass beating.
How? We actually won games & if we had Vokoun then we probably would have won the series.

People are getting heartbreaking & embarrassing confused. Embarrassing is scoring two goals an entire series. Heartbreaking is the Isles in 93 or the Panthers in 96. Series that gave you hope and then snatched them away. In both instances I'm not sure the better teams won. This year the Bruins were the better team.

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The writing was on the wall back in the regular season. A perfect storm of things came together to give the Pens and their fans the ILLUSION that this team was "unstoppable" and that they would easily roll to the Cup.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis started off the season tearing up the league. They spent the entire offseason together building chemistry and figuring out each other's tendencies. For the first half of the season, the rest of the league was still shaking off the rust and it made that line look miles ahead of any other line. EVERYONE, including the players themselves overrated that line. Once the rest of the league hit their stride, we saw the production of that line really drop off.

After looking like a very average team for a while at the beginning of the season, Vokoun spoke up and told them to stop playing dumb and then they went on that 15 game winning streak. That streak really sent the hype machine into overdrive. This was before the trade deadline and everyone was already anticipating a big move or two from Shero. They felt that the team was already dominating and adding another piece or two would make them world beaters.

And that leads us to the trade deadline. Shero pulls the trigger on Morrow. Some people like the move, noting his "veteran presence" and "grit. Others don't like it because of what the Pens gave up. Then came Murray. Everyone loves the move because Murray is a mountain of a man that can throw checks with the best of them. Everyone is convinced that our blueline just got better. Then the big one, Iginla. The most coveted prize at the deadline decides to come to Pittsburgh to win the Cup that has eluded him for years. The fan base goes nuts. There is "no way that the Pens can lose now". The sports media up the hype even more by calling the Pens the most stacked team in decades. Confidence is at an all time high....or should I say OVERconfidence...Then we find out about Martin going down with a broken wrist.

Iggy's first game in Pittsburgh and Sid breaks his jaw. An omen? Perhaps. Everyone anticipated that Iggy would play with him and so they would just have to wait to see if that was the case. The Pens go back to looking mediocre for a few games and the streak is over. Everyone shrugs it off as the new guys just needing to assimilate to the system. No big deal.

Then the Pens go on a 7 game winning streak. Everyone is back on cloud nine. "Once Sid gets back, the Pens are going to roll".

Then Malkin goes down with what appeared to be a shoulder injury that nagged him into the playoffs. Then Neal goes down. Sid, Geno, Martin, and Neal, all out and the Pens are still winning. More over confidence from the fans, and apparently the organization. "When all these guys get back, look out NHL".

So Neal, Martin, and Geno are back for the end of the regular season and Neal nets a hat trick. "He's back!" The Pens see that the Isles are their 1st round opponents, and apparently, just like the fans, thought that it would be a cakewalk. Game 1 furthers that notion and many fans are crowing "SWEEP". Then, reality sets in. The Isles push back and make the Pens look very bad at times. Of course Fleury imploded and it was everyone to lay all the blame at his feet. Never mind all the other issues that surfaced, everyone just thought that Fleury was the problem and once he was on the bench, they were good to go. So they pull the series out, Vokoun is praised as a savior, and they are ready to roll into round 2.

The Sens series really got everyone thinking that the Pens were unstoppable. They lit up the Sens, the PP was clicking, and Vokoun and the d were shutting the Sens down. The media was raving about how the Pens were scoring more goals per game than any team in the last 25 years. Everyone got to the point in which they thought that the Pens would just overpower any team that they came up against.

Then comes Boston, a team with a system that requires every player to know their roles and where they need to be on the ice at all times. A solid d corps and a great goaltender. After beating the Bruins 3 times in the regular season BY BEATING THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME, apparently Bylsma and the boys decided to ride the wave of offense eruption and play a wide open, firewagon style game against them in game 1. Apparently the plan was to shell the Bruins early and often, pot a few goals, and then force the Bruins to play catch up, taking them out of their trap and opening things up more for the Pens. Only one problem, the "most stacked" team in decades, complete with three 50 goal scorers, one 40 goal scorer, and one of the most offensive defensemen in the game, couldn't bury just ONE of their chances. The Bruins eventually drew first blood, the "leaders" on the team got frustrated and blew their stacks at the end of the 2nd period, and from that point on Boston knew that they were in the Pens' heads. Their plan from that point on was to play their trap style of game, right from the puck drop, and just bide their time and wait. Take everything away from the Pens, target Sid and Geno, stay in position and don't allow any odd man rushes or cross ice passes to get through. Just keep frustrating the Pens and wait for their opportunity to score. And there was the difference. The Pens couldn't get anything to go, were getting frustrated and started forcing things, and the Bruins just waited for their chances to materialize. They didn't force anything, just let it come to them, and they buried their chances. By the time the Pens started playing Boston's style of play, they had already spotted them 2 games AT HOME and the implosion had already begun.

We can talk about bad bounces and bad officiating until we're blue in the face, but the Pens beat themselves in this series because of overconfidence and arrogance. Had they played the way that they beat them 3 times in the regular season, we probably wouldn't be posting on this thread right now, but instead, they bought into the hype and thought that their offense was unstoppable and so they tried that approach instead. And so he we are.

Some problems that haven't been solved in the past few years:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis is not a top line in the playoffs and never will be.

The refusal to park anyone in front of the net, especially on the PP, makes life really easy for the opposing goalie. Too easy.

The stupid, zone d that the Pens continue to run with. I am TIRED pf watching everyone allow the opposing team SO much time and space to wheel and deal in the defensive zone and get great chances.

Inability to beat the trap. 4 straight years and they still have no answer for it...

I hate to say it but Shero going "all in", the 15 and 7 game winning streaks, and Crosby's torrid scoring pace set all of this in motion, breeding overconfidence and a sense of entitlement from the fan base and the players. Case in point, Crosby's "we deserved better" remarks after the game.

It is pretty embarrassing to say the least. Most embarrassing? Perhaps. At least they were scoring in the Flyers series. Here, they looked like a club hockey team full of scrubs playing with each other for the first time. Bad passes, flubbed shots, missed nets, posts, terrible turnovers, etc. For having the "most stacked" offense in the league, they looked like they wouldn't have scored more than 2 goals in the series if Boston left the net open the whole time...
We don't play a zone D. When's the last time you saw a D-man chase a guy to point on a defense that plays zone? A good zone D can be aggressive. It just eliminates a lot of the unnecessary chasing & cuts off the most dangerous area of the ice.

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Last year was much worse.

Blew a 3-0 lead in game 1
Blew a 3-1 lead in game 2 and gave up 8
Gave up 8 in game 3
Lost 5-1 in game 6

This year was bad but the Pens didn't get a single bounce and only played 1 ****** game.

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Not only was it 2 goals in 4 games, but to pile on to that, outscored 9-1 in front of their own fans, on home ice, has to be the icing on the cake. The display of emotional weakness in games 1 & 2 was absolutely deplorable.

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I'd say it's been a embarrassing past "4" years, none are anymore takeable than the other when considering the end result is nothing.

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OK, listen. As much as this sucks, the Bruins weren't "underdogs". They are essentially the same team that won the Cup two years ago. Replace Recchi with Jagr, and a few other minor differences.

The manner in which we lost was surprising, but any knowledgeable fan knew going into this series that it was a tossup. So no, 1993 was worse.
This has nothing to do with losing to a supposed "underdog". We all knew coming into this series that the B's were a great team and a legit contender. However were they so good that we were made to look like an AHL team that could only manage 2 goals in 4 games and get outscored 9-1 on home ice? There's a difference between getting beaten by a good team and being made to look like absolute amateurs.

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Out of my personal top 6 worst exits, 3 of them were presided over by Bylsma. That's pretty impressive. And absolutely awful.
Hey man, not his fault. The players just didn't execute.

As for the thread question, most embarrassing? Probably not. Most annoying/frustrating? By far, simply because Shero gave Bylsma the pieces he needed to put this team over the top, and Bylsma still found a way to **** it up.

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Last year was worse because I ****ing hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate the Flyers
Yeah but that whole series was such a clown show that it was like both teams should be embarrassed, and the Pens just happened to be the one that lost. And then the Flyers lost the next round anyway, which shocked nobody.

The Bruins deserved to be proud of their win. Also I kind of hate their holier than thou-Pens loathing fan base, and how much they must have enjoyed that... But oh well I guess. Hawks-Bruins should hopefully be a fun series...

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3 out of the 4 games could have been decided by one timely goal by the Penguin's the way Vokoun was handling himself. Game 2 was just... horrific. And you know what? That one goal could have been on any of the 10+ Power plays the Penguins had that they didn't score on because Bylsma refused to put Iggy out at the left circle to bomb one timers. A single PP goal and the Pens could still be in the playoffs going back home to play game 5.

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Bottom line Bylsma couldn't get it done and he had all the parts.... And that's why he has to go. Lemieux has to make the call and save face amongst loyal Pens fans.

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With the talent this team has, to go out the way they have in the last two years when they were healthy and the favorites... all I have to say is that I'm ******* embarrassed to be a Pens fan right now.

Hell I'm not sure if I even want to be one anymore, I can see them choking away many more cup runs in the future. So whats the ******* point?

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With the talent this team has, to go out the way they have in the last two years when they were healthy and the favorites... all I have to say is that I'm ******* embarrassed to be a Pens fan right now.

Hell I'm not sure if I even want to be one anymore, I can see them choking away many more cup runs in the future. So whats the ******* point?
I have a friend, A's fan like myself for as long as I knew him basically, switched over to the Giants two years before they won their first World Series in SF. So I guess it worked out for him, and I'm sure there is plenty of room on other teams' bandwagons if that's what you want to do. But you know, as bad as these past few years were, I mean, we waited 17 years for the cup since I was a fan, I think I can tough this out. Remember the dark ages pre-Sid post-Jagr, when we were genuinely excited about Fata and Beech and Koltsov and crap, and maybe it's not so bad. Frankly, I thought last year was more embarrassing because at least this year we played real hockey and not some pond variety of the sport. 2 goals for is pretty sad, but 800 goals against is embarrassing...

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With the talent this team has, to go out the way they have in the last two years when they were healthy and the favorites... all I have to say is that I'm ******* embarrassed to be a Pens fan right now.

Hell I'm not sure if I even want to be one anymore, I can see them choking away many more cup runs in the future. So whats the ******* point?
The Lemieux era Pens only won 2 Cups and Sid and company already have one Cup so far out of their two Finals appearances which were consecutive no less. You act like we're the American version of the Maple Leafs or the Capitals something. We won a cup only 4 years ago, a lot of other teams have to wait many many years between cups.

But if your that embarrassed, see ya later.

Heh...I've always said it's times like these that separate the loyal fans from the bandwagoners or star player fanboys. If people here in Pens Nation including myself could endure the pre-Sid post-Jagr days which we have...then 1 Cup in the last 4 years isn't too bad at all.

It's not like we'll never make the playoff again. Sheesh.


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