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Plekanec vs. Stastny vs. Pavelski

View Poll Results: Which center would you want to target?
Tomas Plekanec 8 20.00%
Joe Pavelski 15 37.50%
Paul Stastny 16 40.00%
None of the above 1 2.50%
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06-08-2013, 06:11 PM
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I'd want Stastny, and think he might be the easiest to acquire, and the best fit.

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06-08-2013, 06:22 PM
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Ok, so this is the highest tier of realistic targets, what about the next tier down. Lets discuss some younger targets with potential, players like Berglund that could use a change of scenery, and some veteran targets that are a notch down. Any ideas?

For the young ones with potential, ones that appear to be available are Couturier and Schenn, although I'm not that big of a fan of either one. If I had to choose one it would be Schenn, but no way I'd move Shattenkirk. Lets leave Burmistrov out because he hasn't shown anything that he can be an upgrade over Sobotka.

The next category would be guys like Gagner. Basically instead of the 1st/2nd combo with Backes and Stastny/Pavelski/Plekanec, we would have a 2nd/3rd line combo with Berglund and Gagner, etc.

We really haven't talked about veterans that could be available that are a notch down from the low end 1st liners. Someone like a Peverley or Nielsen could be a good stopgap option.

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06-08-2013, 06:24 PM
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I'd be interested in Brayden Schenn and MAYBEEEE Nielsen, but the rest of those names really don't do much for me at all.

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06-08-2013, 06:32 PM
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I'd be interested in Brayden Schenn and MAYBEEEE Nielsen, but the rest of those names really don't do much for me at all.
I'm just throwing stuff out there so we can discuss something that we really haven't discussed before. Might as well talk about some stopgaps because that's probably what we are going to end up with. Feel free to throw some names out, I just threw some out at the top of my head.

I definitely think Armstrong will be going for more, and the draft could definitely be an interesting time for us, but it just feels like we've been talking the higher end options, at least the realistic ones again and again.

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06-08-2013, 06:59 PM
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Yeah I hear ya, always fine by me to throw out names. We should speculate about as much as we can leading up to this draft because it could be a busy one.

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06-08-2013, 07:30 PM
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I really, really like Zibanejad.

Would anyone trade Tarasenko for him?

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06-08-2013, 07:51 PM
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I really, really like Zibanejad.

Would anyone trade Tarasenko for him?
Nope. I do really like Z though.

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06-08-2013, 08:04 PM
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I really, really like Zibanejad.

Would anyone trade Tarasenko for him?
nope, I would trade rattie + cole/jaskin though

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nope, I would trade rattie + cole/jaskin though
You think Tarasenko will be better than Rattie + Jaskin?

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06-08-2013, 08:15 PM
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if rattie and jaskin both live up to their full potential no. but keep in mind jaskin put up 2 points in an entire season in Europe and was largely written off as a prospect. and rattie may very well never make it. I think tarasenko is a safer bet than those two.

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06-08-2013, 10:22 PM
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if rattie and jaskin both live up to their full potential no. but keep in mind jaskin put up 2 points in an entire season in Europe and was largely written off as a prospect. and rattie may very well never make it. I think tarasenko is a safer bet than those two.
Wait, what???

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06-09-2013, 12:16 AM
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in the Czech elite league jaskin only scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the entire season playing against men. he was looking like a bad pick. then he came over seas and dominated against players his own age that he is much bigger than. so there should be questions about if he can handle playing against men his own size. and rattie still has question marks. he has hockey sense but there is always the question of can a player transition. some of the goals he scores are very soft and though he has a very good toe drag he over uses it and wont get away with it as he moves up in the pro game. so if he can adjust and increase his bag of tricks and continue to find the soft spots of the ice he will be a very good pro, but I find it more likely that he cant adjust than tarasenko as vlad has been playing against men in a much tougher league than rattie. like I said if I knew they were all going to reach their potential I would rather have 2 50 point scorers than a 70 point scorer. but I think tarasenko is a 50 point player at worst while rattie and jaskin could end up being busts.

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06-09-2013, 03:32 AM
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I may be alone here, but I prefer the Czech center Plekanec. He's solid on both ends of the ice and has already shown the capability to produce on a defense first team. He also outproduced both the Americans this season who were on more offensive minded teams. I wouldn't mind Pavelski and his contract, but Stastny is very overpaid and overrated IMO. Now if he's bought then that would be a different story, but I certainly wouldn't want to see us trade any valuable assests for him. I do wonder what it would take to land Plekanec. How about something like Perron, Russell, and a 2nd? I've always felt like Perron belongs in Montreal anyways..

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06-09-2013, 06:56 AM
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Joe Pavelski, then Plekanec. I have no interest whatsoever in Stastny coming to the Blues.

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06-09-2013, 07:58 AM
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I may be alone here, but I prefer the Czech center Plekanec. He's solid on both ends of the ice and has already shown the capability to produce on a defense first team. He also outproduced both the Americans this season who were on more offensive minded teams. I wouldn't mind Pavelski and his contract, but Stastny is very overpaid and overrated IMO. Now if he's bought then that would be a different story, but I certainly wouldn't want to see us trade any valuable assests for him. I do wonder what it would take to land Plekanec. How about something like Perron, Russell, and a 2nd? I've always felt like Perron belongs in Montreal anyways..
I agree. They need toughness though. They have plenty of Russells. Perron, Viellieux, and a 3rd. We won't get Stastny with him being in our division. I don't see Pavelski either. Both are in our conference.

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We won't get Stastny with him being in our division.
This.

Perhaps at this time next year when Stastny is a UFA and at a much lower salary that the Av's are stuck with for 2013-2014.

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Pavelski is who I'd want, but the only one I can actually see us possibly acquiring is Stastny.

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06-09-2013, 04:02 PM
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Pavelski is who I'd want, but the only one I can actually see us possibly acquiring is Stastny.
Please explain.

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I would prefer someone other than Stastny, but the whole divisional thing is overblown in this situation IMO.

The Avs and the Blues are not competing against each other right now. Sure they will be in the same division, but the Blues are somewhere near contenders and the Avs just ended up with the second worst record in the NHL for a reason.

The Avs might already know they are not going to re-sign Stastny, so they might as well turn them into something that helps them in the future. If they deem Perron and a second good value, then I am sure they would make that trade (assuming it is the best offer). Is that likely to be the case? Not sure, because we have no idea about other offer.

I agree that the divisional thing plays a role, but I think it is more of an issue when the teams are somewhere other than completely opposite ends of the competitive spectrum.

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All three of these guys are good defensively, but Stastny is the best offensively. He hasn't been in much of a situation to show that with Colorado the past couple years but on the Blues he'll fit in and be productive.

That said, any of these guys would be a good fit for our current team. Stastny just has more upside. Getting Pavelski is like having another Oshie on the ice and we've already seen how negative people can be about his offensive production. Plekanec would be similar.

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Please explain.
Most expendable to his team.

Plekanec technically is just as much so, but I see Stastny moving more.

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All three of these guys are good defensively, but Stastny is the best offensively. He hasn't been in much of a situation to show that with Colorado the past couple years but on the Blues he'll fit in and be productive.

That said, any of these guys would be a good fit for our current team. Stastny just has more upside. Getting Pavelski is like having another Oshie on the ice and we've already seen how negative people can be about his offensive production. Plekanec would be similar.
Except that Plekanec and Pavelski are much better offensively than Oshie.

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plek is probably one of the most complete players in the nhl and on top of that hes an easy 60-70 pointer. dude is a ****ing workhorse, everyone in MTL loves him. only thing is he doesnt really fit our needs because we wont have a cup contending team for at least the next 4-5 years, hes pretty much the only moveable asset that we have. im of the opinion that we should move him but alot of the mtl boarders would rather keep him


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