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View Poll Results: Will we see any games for the 12-13 season?
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06-09-2013, 03:10 PM
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Sk for Hemsky? Sk would work on a 3rd line for EDM. Both UFA's next yr. Edm loses 2 Million in cap hit
I would do it in a heartbeat, but I think Edmonton would rather have Gaustad to be honest. Especially if they trade Horcoff (he just sold his house), they have gaping holes both in bottom six centers and veteran leadership for their young core. Gaustad makes sense to me.

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I would do it in a heartbeat, but I think Edmonton would rather have Gaustad to be honest. Especially if they trade Horcoff (he just sold his house), they have gaping holes both in bottom six centers and veteran leadership for their young core. Gaustad makes sense to me.
It's a good roster fit. If NSH drafts a C who can make the roster the Center depth chart starts as.

Fisher
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Then comes the move at wings, SK/Smith/etc

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06-09-2013, 04:34 PM
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I would do it in a heartbeat, but I think Edmonton would rather have Gaustad to be honest. Especially if they trade Horcoff (he just sold his house), they have gaping holes both in bottom six centers and veteran leadership for their young core. Gaustad makes sense to me.
You guys are assuming Poile wants to move Gaustad. He paid a lot of money to get him, and I suspect he will keep him.

Plus, I just dont see Poile making "go for it next season" moves. With whoever we pick at #4 and FF9, Im thinking Poile makes transitional moves that get us back to the playoffs next year but is setting us up for the season after next... so Im thinking SK for Hemsky might be reasonable but not Gaustad, who Poile is counting on for three more years

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SK for anyone would be a fair deal.

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SK for anyone would be a fair deal.
im telling you, SK is going to be playing for his next contract this coming season(whether in the NHL or KHL). He played well the two seasons before that this was the case... I wont be upset if we trade him for someone like Hemsky, but unless he is really a locker room cancer now I think it would be a waste to just dump him for a pick or a low level prospect

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SK is a joke and needs to go. You would want a fair deal for sure but i would want to give a prospect a chance before i went through another year of watching SK

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Agreed with the artist formerly known as Volde that has the terrifying avatar. SK will be better this year. I think he's worth keeping around unless he is really messing with the locker room.

While I know Goose just got signed and whatnot, Spaling/Watson/Mueller make him redundant. Nice to have, but Hemsky would have possibly the most pure offensive talent of anyone on this team.

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Agreed with the artist formerly known as Volde that has the terrifying avatar. SK will be better this year. I think he's worth keeping around unless he is really messing with the locker room.

While I know Goose just got signed and whatnot, Spaling/Watson/Mueller make him redundant. Nice to have, but Hemsky would have possibly the most pure offensive talent of anyone on this team.
sorry but if Spaling/Watson/Mueller = Goose there is no way Poile goes out and spends the cash he spent to get him when we already had those three. He is head and shoulders better at what he is supposed to do than those three. Is he probably overpaid? yes. But what he brings (assuming he's healthy) has significant value and I do not see Poile trading it away for someone who will only be here a year

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Here's the real problem. You watch every game the Predators play and know every bad play and every flaw. You watch what maybe 10 Bruin games and I'm guessing not nearly as invested in those viewings.
You would be very wrong, but that's ok. The Bruins and the Canes are my two East teams and I have tried to watch every game the past couple of years.

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You would be very wrong, but that's ok. The Bruins and the Canes are my two East teams and I have tried to watch every game the past couple of years.
I stand corrected.

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You guys are assuming Poile wants to move Gaustad. He paid a lot of money to get him, and I suspect he will keep him.

Plus, I just dont see Poile making "go for it next season" moves. With whoever we pick at #4 and FF9, Im thinking Poile makes transitional moves that get us back to the playoffs next year but is setting us up for the season after next... so Im thinking SK for Hemsky might be reasonable but not Gaustad, who Poile is counting on for three more years
Gaustad is glass, no way Poile doesn't have buyers remorse on that deal now.

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Gaustad is glass, no way Poile doesn't have buyers remorse on that deal now.
It's funny that we have trouble scoring as a team yet hand out a massive overpayment for a guy that is a one dimensional player and focusing on correcting the scoring issues. Now some will say we were coming off of being number 1 in the league but everyone also said it couldn't be kept up because the shooting percentages were too high so that argument holds no water. To pay a faceoff specialist that kind of money was stupid, even if we had the cap space. It was plain stupid. Add to that the guy can't stay healthy and it looks even worse. I'd give up Gaustad for Hemsky in a heart beat, even if it's only for one season. We'd get a bonafide top 6 talent and shed a bad contract. Granted, Hemsky is made of glass too but at least when he's in the lineup he puts the puck in the net and the young kids could learn a thing or two from about offense.

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Gaustad is glass, no way Poile doesn't have buyers remorse on that deal now.


Then Wilson is glass. They had the same injury. Gausted has dealt with that shoulder for a number of years.

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Then Wilson is glass. They had the same injury. Gausted has dealt with that shoulder for a number of years.
Right and Wilson has only dealt with his this year. Gaustad can't stay healthy.

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You would be very wrong, but that's ok. The Bruins and the Canes are my two East teams and I have tried to watch every game the past couple of years.
I have watched lots of Bs games-- my son's Eastern conference team. I have a rooting interest. And this is the way they have been structured more or less as long as Julien has been the coach. Lineups have changed, but not the system.

There is a talent gap on the top F line for certain, and as has been pointed out they play much tighter in the neutral zone and funnel chances much more solidly to the walls. Also more active with sticks. But the system part and the stick activity can all be taught. Trotz's system is not too far from that-- just looser and implemented without the offensive counterstrike capability. Add in Forsberg, Barkov, a top tier veteran, make those adjustments in camp and drill the heck out of the team until they sleepwalk it. I think the goaltending is a wash if Pekka is healthy again, D is comparable if the forward support is there. It could happen, people. Not saying they hoist the cup next season, but I think they go far and change the dynamic for certain.

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Right and Wilson has only dealt with his this year. Gaustad can't stay healthy.
Don't forget Willy's groin injury his rookie season. Essentially he lost, in terms of his development, half of his first season. Just sayin'.

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Don't forget Willy's groin injury his rookie season. Essentially he lost, in terms of his development, half of his first season. Just sayin'.
Yeah, but he hasn't had multiple surgeries on one body part ... good try

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Yeah, but he hasn't had multiple surgeries on one body part ... good try
has Gaustad? I know he has had shoulder problems before, but I could only find a reference to a thumb surgery, not a previous surgery on the same shoulder.

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Gaustad is great when healthy. Every good team has a guy like him. Unfortunately, like others have said, his injuries are a major concern. If he continues to get hurt next season, then I'll start worrying.

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After Bickell's strong playoffs, lots of Hawks fans want to keep him and trade Nick Leddy, who is an RFA. IMO he'd look great opposite Klein. The question is this: trade or offer sheet?

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After Bickell's strong playoffs, lots of Hawks fans want to keep him and trade Nick Leddy, who is an RFA. IMO he'd look great opposite Klein. The question is this: trade or offer sheet?
I seriously doubt that the Hawks keep Bickell ... Ward, Kontos, Bergenheim, Leino, etc all say hello.

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After Bickell's strong playoffs, lots of Hawks fans want to keep him and trade Nick Leddy, who is an RFA. IMO he'd look great opposite Klein. The question is this: trade or offer sheet?
We already have Nick Leddy on our team, except he spells his name Ryan Ellis

I'd rather see us fill that spot with a vet

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Oilers fan here, just wondering how Blum has been for you guys. How would Hemsky for Blum sound?

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Oilers fan here, just wondering how Blum has been for you guys. How would Hemsky for Blum sound?
With only one year left at a $5 mil price tag, I'll pass. Good value though.

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Oilers fan here, just wondering how Blum has been for you guys. How would Hemsky for Blum sound?
Blum is an enigma. A few years back, he got called up midway through the year and played 2nd pairing minutes, the #3D on our team in the eyes of most behind only Weber and Suter. We valued him like crazy. Then, for some inexplicable reason, he looked awful the next year, and is clawing his way back.

I am higher on him that most, but I would say he's a #5/6D this year with #3D potential. I'm not opposed to giving him a shot on the 2nd pairing here, but that's just becuase we've seen what he can do. I don't know if his work ethic wavered, if he lost confidence, if a coach tried to change his style, or whatever else could have happened, but if he can regain that form, he will be quite a staple on whichever blue-line he ends on up - I doubt it's ours.

I would do Blum for Hemsky. We also threw around the idea of Gaustad for Hemsky, if you buy out Horcoff.

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