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06-10-2013, 09:27 AM
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I can't believe the nutless laziness on the part of Oilers management for firing Kruger over Skype. It's cheap, cowardly, and careless. Shame on what was once a proud organization.
Where did you see this? Was he out of the country? If so isn't a video conference on Skype better than a phone call? Perhaps he wasn't in Edmonton, should they fly him in just to fire him?

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Krueger lives in Switzerland. He coached there and lives there. He spent 2 weeks with MacT at the WC. There wasn't any hint about Krueger losing his job but MacT was interviewing assistant coaches while Ralph is in Europe. That doesn't sound right. He should have fired him weeks ago.

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06-10-2013, 09:37 AM
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I also certainly would not bet on it...but we also were assured by reputable sources that Torts would absolutely be back.

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Where did you see this? Was he out of the country? If so isn't a video conference on Skype better than a phone call? Perhaps he wasn't in Edmonton, should they fly him in just to fire him?
This morning on TSN SportsCentre, they showed the replay of the interview with Krueger about his firing. Krueger was the one that disclosed that he was let go during a Skype call. Kreuger added that his conversation with McTavish was professional and did not get emotional until Kreuger's wife got involved in the conversation.

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06-10-2013, 09:51 AM
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Sucks. I wanted Eakins. Now I'd rather have Tippett, or Boucher if we can't et him.

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Not happening.
(Wishful thinking) smoke screen?

This is the perfect time for it to happen, there is no better time. With the organization about to make another change in direction and philosophy (assuming is the case because of a new coaching staff)...Sather needs to man up and step away, give Gorton the reins, and let him start molding this team. And if that moron promotes someone other than Gorton...

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I am calling it now. It will be Vigneault.

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06-10-2013, 09:55 AM
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This morning on TSN SportsCentre, they showed the replay of the interview with Krueger about his firing. Krueger was the one that disclosed that he was let go during a Skype call. Kreuger added that his conversation with McTavish was professional and did not get emotional until Kreuger's wife got involved in the conversation.
Whoa boy, lol. That couldn't have been pretty.

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Anyone think Messier will be an Assistant with the new coach?

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06-10-2013, 10:00 AM
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I am calling it now. It will be Vigneault.
Probably will be, and to be honest, i don't like it. Not that it matters.

I'd prefer:

Gorton GM
Boucher HC

What is the plan, otherwise? Have Vigneault hired for one or two years before Sather finally goes away (hopefully)? And then what? ANOTHER overhaul?

Its ridiculous. Sather needs to go away. This is the time, right now, to put the new GM in charge and let him hire his coaching staff and start building his team, his way.

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Anyone think Messier will be an Assistant with the new coach?
I vehemently hope not. Messier in ANY coaching position would be disastrous.

Not the time or place for that experiment. Let him do that somewhere else with some other organization. Go back to Edmonton, they like doing things the wrong way, it would be a perfect fit.

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06-10-2013, 10:09 AM
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Anyone think Messier will be an Assistant with the new coach?
Only if the new coach wants him. A coach should be allowed to pick his own staff. Personally, if I'm the new coach, I don't want Mark Messier looking over my shoulder especially when I have the ear of the gm and have a better relationship with the GM than I do.

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Only if the new coach wants him. A coach should be allowed to pick his own staff. Personally, if I'm the new coach, I don't want Mark Messier looking over my shoulder especially when I have the ear of the gm and have a better relationship with the GM than I do.
I agree with everything you just wrote, but you didn't answer my question. Do YOU THINK he will be an Assistant?

Just because it's not a good idea does not mean it won't happen.

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06-10-2013, 10:28 AM
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Anyone think Messier will be an Assistant with the new coach?
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Krueger lives in Switzerland. He coached there and lives there. He spent 2 weeks with MacT at the WC. There wasn't any hint about Krueger losing his job but MacT was interviewing assistant coaches while Ralph is in Europe. That doesn't sound right. He should have fired him weeks ago.
Actually RB, this article (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425066) explains the process:

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Less than 24 hours after being relieved of his duties as head coach of the Edmonton Oilers, Ralph Krueger reflected on his season behind the bench.

"I'm not a big fan of regrets," Krueger told TSN on Sunday. "I made mistakes, I'm sure, but I'm not a person who uses the word regret very much. I don't feel any right now."

Krueger spent one season as head coach of the club after serving as an associate coach for two seasons. He was let go on Saturday after the Oilers finished with a 19-22-7 record and 12th in the Western Conference, missing the playoffs for the seventh straight year.

"When the conversation began it went to business very quickly," Krueger said of his discussion with general manager Craig MacTavish." He was quite clear with the message; that he was following his instincts and felt it was necessary to hire a new head coach.

"The conversation was short and I didn't really dig deep because I believed it wasn't worth burning any brain cells thinking about why," Krueger continued. "I could feel the decision was final and so it wasn't really necessary for me to understand it."

Asked if he expected something of this nature so soon into his tenure, Krueger said he didn't.

"The idea of adding an assistant or associate was one of the first things I requested following the season because I took over the head coaching job of Tom Renney and did not replace the associate coaching job that I held. Craig (MacTavish) and I both agreed that this was something we needed to do and I was all-in on that.

"It now just has a slightly different ending then I expected."

As MacTavish addressed the media on Saturday, he admitted the decision to fire Krueger began with an effort to add to the staff behind the bench.

"Ralph and I at the end of the year spent the better part of a week discussing that we would add a veteran assistant coach or associate coach," MacTavish said. "During the process of me conducting those interviews, I recognized I was trying to add a coach that was more closely aligned with the way I wanted to run the team and less about supporting Ralph in the head-coaching role. It was at that point when I contemplated making the change if, in my opinion, I found the ideal fit for our hockey club."

Krueger said he appreciated the opportunity in Edmonton and that his emotions were in check following the news.

"My primary emotion right now is that I'm extremely grateful. I'm grateful I found a place where I could go every single day with pleasure. I enjoyed being an Edmonton Oiler and I was all-in 100 per cent the whole time."

What lies ahead for Krueger remains to be seen, but the 53-year-old believes it's time to pull back and let things come his way.

"I'm not going to be out hunting; I want to let my track record speak for itself," said Krueger. "I loved my time in the National Hockey League and so it's definitely one of my options, but I do have multiple opportunities in Europe and also on other levels. I'm going to take some time now for my family. In that time, I'm certain new opportunities will be born and I look forward to those."
Sounds to me like McTavish fell in love with Eakins during the search for an assistant to Krueger, and for some reason or another (afraid that Eakins might get the Canucks head gig?), decided to hire Eakins as the head coach.

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Has an assistant coach ever been assigned to a head coach? I always thought the head coach picks his staff. I sure as hell would want my own people with me. People that know my system and I can trust.

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Technically Sather can retain the GM title and promote someone to President or Senior VP of Hockey Operations. Sather retains his precious titles of President and General Manager. The new coach will be here for next 3-4 years at least. Renney and Torts got 3-4 years plus. Is Sather going to be in charge in 2017? The next person in charge of the hockey operation should have input in the selection of the new coach. The last thing you want is another coaching change in the next 12-24 months with a new boss wanting his own coach. Slats will be 70.

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Technically Sather can retain the GM title and promote someone to President or Senior VP of Hockey Operations. Sather retains his precious titles of President and General Manager. The new coach will be here for next 3-4 years at least. Renney and Torts got 3-4 years plus. Is Sather going to be in charge in 2017? The next person in charge of the hockey operation should have input in the selection of the new coach. The last thing you want is another coaching change in the next 12-24 months with a new boss wanting his own coach. Slats will be 70.
Exactly. Except, Sather needs to not be GM anymore.

Unless Sather intends to stay on as GM for 4-5 more years (if that's the case, someone save us) it makes little to no sense for him to make the hire. He should step back, name a new GM (Gorton) and let his first big decision be the hiring of the new coaching staff.

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I agree with everything you just wrote, but you didn't answer my question. Do YOU THINK he will be an Assistant?
To answer: no.

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i wouldn't mind boucher if he's willing to tweak that 1-3-1 thing. i mean the game where pronger just stood still and watched was pretty brutal

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