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06-10-2013, 12:06 PM
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I don't think Ruff is a bad coach, but I also don't think he is as good of a coach as Torts.

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06-10-2013, 12:08 PM
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That would make sense
So you've officially renounced your Boyle-ism, huh?

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06-10-2013, 12:09 PM
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I'm seeing a lot of negativity towards AV but not a whole reasoning why. Seems like a good fit considering the team's wants. Can someone sum up why he isn't the guy?

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06-10-2013, 12:10 PM
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While that is true, his strengths in terms of coaching aren't going to change.
Isn't that what got Torts fired, inability to change it up ?

I think for many years Buffalo relied on youngsters since they could not afford the high price guys, at times, they overachieved during those years. New ownership gave them the ability to load up, and that ended as an underachievement and removal of Ruff.

But really no matter who is brought in, again, they said it since they canned Renney, they want that guy who will take them the 'next step'. I can't see any scenario where a new coach comes in and employs all that he believes in team building. Win now is the mantra I've been hearing for awhile now and the new coach will have to adjust to that, right away, and successfully. Tall order.

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06-10-2013, 12:11 PM
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So you've officially renounced your Boyle-ism, huh?


I thought it was time. Going back to a hybrid of my old name and new.

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I'm seeing a lot of negativity towards AV but not a whole reasoning why. Seems like a good fit considering the team's wants. Can someone sum up why he isn't the guy?
He has a (IMO unfounded) reputation of handling youth poorly.

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Isn't that what got Torts fired, inability to change it up ?

I think for many years Buffalo relied on youngsters since they could not afford the high price guys, at times, they overachieved during those years. New ownership gave them the ability to load up, and that ended as an underachievement and removal of Ruff.

But really no matter who is brought in, again, they said it since they canned Renney, they want that guy who will take them the 'next step'. I can't see any scenario where a new coach comes in and employs all that he believes in team building. Win now is the mantra I've been hearing for awhile now and the new coach will have to adjust to that, right away, and successfully. Tall order.
I agree, and I don't see any of those coaches available. Torts was one of the only ones with a Cup.

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06-10-2013, 12:18 PM
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HAvent been on in days. I was reading the tippett stuff after eakins was hired and it occurs to me that we have a really good relationship with Pho. Could it be possible Sather and maloney have already discussed things and Tippett is on his way as soon as the contract is up?

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06-10-2013, 12:22 PM
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HAvent been on in days. I was reading the tippett stuff after eakins was hired and it occurs to me that we have a really good relationship with Pho. Could it be possible Sather and maloney have already discussed things and Tippett is on his way as soon as the contract is up?
They have a good relationship, but that doesn't mean Maloney will be doing Sather any huge favors just because.

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06-10-2013, 12:29 PM
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Funny. These guys must be lying to you before they become coach of the Rangers.

....or, just maybe, after gauging the personnel vs. the top teams in the league, the last 2 coaches decided to coach a more defense oriented system.

A new coach mandated to open things up combined with no major depth moves is a recipe for disaster next season. Be careful what you wish for.
Yup I do question whether we have the horses to run. I DONT think we should be and should have been as bad and unwatchable as we were though

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06-10-2013, 12:45 PM
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Ruff stinks...NO TO RUFF

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06-10-2013, 12:46 PM
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They have a good relationship, but that doesn't mean Maloney will be doing Sather any huge favors just because.
Of course not I didn't say that i thought this is what was happenning it was just a thought that popped in my head

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06-10-2013, 12:50 PM
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Ruff is another John Tortorella kind of personality. We don't need that again. We need someone who's more of a player's coach. Would rather rehire Renney than hire Ruff.

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06-10-2013, 01:01 PM
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I'm warming up to the idea of hiring Tom Renney.

He adjusts his team pretty well according to roster level. Doesn't demand too much from youngsters and holds veterans accountable.

Also, perfect guy to blame.

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"Glen Sather considers giving up Rangers GM position" (SI.com)

http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/10/gl...er-rangers-gm/

I wasn't sure whether to categorize this as speculation or just a news article. It states that there's been murmurings but also shows Brooksie dismissing it. Take it with a grain of salt.

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The Rangers on attack are a mess. Hiring good ol' Mark will only make it Messier

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I'm going to assume he's still going to be President of Hockey Operations and Gorton will take over. Not sure if that'll make a difference if he gets a say in transactions.

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06-10-2013, 01:24 PM
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After a tip from @ian_mendes, Sure sounds like Alain Vigneault is on his way to Palm Springs to talk to NYR brass. #coachonaplane

The plot thickens...

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06-10-2013, 01:27 PM
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The Stars are interested in Torts

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#NYR Can confirm Dallas has interest in John Tortorella. DAL hasn't yet requested permission to speak w/him but NYR unlikely to stand in way
https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/...43881589370882

Torts has 2 or 3 years left on his contract. The Rangers would save some money if Dallas hired Torts. Vigneault has 2 years remaining on his VAN contract.

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Eeek. What a cluster****.

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The Stars are interested in Torts



https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/...43881589370882

Torts has 2 or 3 years left on his contract. The Rangers would save some money if Dallas hired Torts. Vigneault has 2 years remaining on his VAN contract.
If you have Loui Eriksson in your fantasy leagues, drop him

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06-10-2013, 01:38 PM
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If you have Loui Eriksson in your fantasy leagues, drop him
Boyle for Eriksson!!!!!!

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06-10-2013, 01:42 PM
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Do you really need permission to speak with a guy who was fired by his last team?

I understand he still collects on his contract, but permission?

So Hypotheticly the Rangers could prevent Torts from talking to or working for say the NY Islanders until his contract is complete?

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06-10-2013, 01:44 PM
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Because of the time and salary remaining on Tortorella's deal, which remains in effect as long as he doesn't coach somewhere else, the Rangers are not expected to stand in his way of taking another job.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/93...orella-sources

Sather gave Torts an extension during the season. Torts had one year remaining. He got a 1 or 2 year extension. Probably 2 years. 3 years in total.

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