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06-11-2013, 02:40 PM
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Also, extension talks w/ Letang expected to begin this month. He seeks five-to-eight-year term, full no-move. #Pens believe $7-8M per sought

It's time to trade him.
How reliable is this person though?

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06-11-2013, 03:12 PM
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letang is worth 6mil max but i could see pits overpaying him by a little. pk is most likely gonna get a similar deal too
6mil max? Try around 6.5 minimum. If you offer Letang 6m he's gonna say no thanks I'll go to UFA where someone will promptly offer him AT LEAST 7mil.

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06-11-2013, 03:25 PM
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Pens shouldn't trade Letang to a division rival. period.
Take the best deal regardless of who gives it. period.

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06-11-2013, 03:28 PM
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6mil max? Try around 6.5 minimum. If you offer Letang 6m he's gonna say no thanks I'll go to UFA where someone will promptly offer him AT LEAST 7mil.
i didnt say thats how much he would get paid, i said thats how much his value is. i also said that pits would slightly over pay him in order to keep him, aka 6.5mil

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06-11-2013, 03:32 PM
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Also, extension talks w/ Letang expected to begin this month. He seeks five-to-eight-year term, full no-move. #Pens believe $7-8M per sought

It's time to trade him.
Anything more then 6 per year for Letang you move him!!! Like the guy but he ain't worth more then that

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06-11-2013, 03:37 PM
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Letang is going to be traded if he wants that much. The return would probably be like a top-10 pick, a replacement top-4 OFD and a good prospect. I've said this deal a hundred times before, but Schultz, Hartikinen and the 7th overall pick for Letang (with an extension) makes a ton of sense. Pens get a young replacement top-4 D in Schultz, a young winger prospect in Hartikinen and a high pick. Oilers get a Norris finalist to help them break their playoff slump.
That might be the worse proposal I have ever seen.


The 7th overall + Hartikinen is fair value.

Justin Schultz is a ridiculous addition that makes it a horrible overpayment.


It wouldn't be a deal for a signed Letang anyways, as Letang cant sign a contract until after the 2013 draft.


Absolutley ridiculous. Your evaluation of Letang is simply terrible. He's a UFA to be asking for 7M+. Sure he's a Top 10 Dman in the NHL today. But he's also a UFA in 1 year, and the Penguins likely will not be resigning him. His value isn't anywhere close to what you think it is.


Ridiculous.

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Take the best deal regardless of who gives it. period.
A. i'm definitely not convinced that that would be the best offer: a mid-1st pick, a prospect who reportedly demanded a trade months ago, and Andrew freaking MacDonald. if there is a team that is willing to move a top-10 pick for Letang, the Pens would look at that offer more than the Isles offer.

B. if they can sign him for less than $7M per year, the Pens keep Letang anyway instead of trading him to a division rival that already matched up well against the Pens. why should they give that team more of an edge by trading Letang?

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Anything more then 6 per year for Letang you move him!!! Like the guy but he ain't worth more then that
Yeah, but without Letang whats that PIT blueline look like?

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i didnt say thats how much he would get paid, i said thats how much his value is. i also said that pits would slightly over pay him in order to keep him, aka 6.5mil
6.5 is where the deal would start, that's not where it would end with overpayment. Not a snowball's chance in hell he gets less than 6.5 from anyone.

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06-11-2013, 03:45 PM
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A. i'm definitely not convinced that that would be the best offer: a mid-1st pick, a prospect who reportedly demanded a trade months ago, and Andrew freaking MacDonald. if there is a team that is willing to move a top-10 pick for Letang, the Pens would look at that offer more than the Isles offer.

B. if they can sign him for less than $7M per year, the Pens keep Letang anyway instead of trading him to a division rival that already matched up well against the Pens. why should they give that team more of an edge by trading Letang?
I'm not talking about that trade imparticular. I'm talking about the notion of not trading in the division. If the Pens trade Letang, they would be unwise to take a lesser deal simply because it's not in the division.

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06-11-2013, 03:46 PM
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That might be the worse proposal I have ever seen.


The 7th overall + Hartikinen is fair value.

Justin Schultz is a ridiculous addition that makes it a horrible overpayment.


It wouldn't be a deal for a signed Letang anyways, as Letang cant sign a contract until after the 2013 draft.


Absolutley ridiculous. Your evaluation of Letang is simply terrible. He's a UFA to be asking for 7M+. Sure he's a Top 10 Dman in the NHL today. But he's also a UFA in 1 year, and the Penguins likely will not be resigning him. His value isn't anywhere close to what you think it is.


Ridiculous.
Wow, this may have been the dumbest responce on here. Let's break this down:

1. Remember the Staal deal last year? Letang will get a return better than that.
2. 7th overall plus a prospect that just bolted for the KHL isn't fair. The very idea is just laughable.
3. Letang can agree to a deal before the draft, then sign it after. Look at what Crosby did last year, he agreed to the deal like a week before he could sign it
4. He is a Norris finalist. You aren't going to get one for a #7 pick and a busting prospect (Oilers fans told me he sucked after I made the proposal)
5. Take off your Oilers glasses, please. Your homerism is disgusting.

Your post is why people in the NHL laugh at this board. "Oh, I'll give you a draft pick and a prospect that bolted for Russia for 2 years for a Norris finalist. Deal?" It's pathetic. Look at the Staal return last year. He got Sutter, Dumoulin and the 8th overall pick. Letang>Staal. Why would Letang get a lower return?

This is just another case of people overrating prospects on this website. A Norris candidate is worth far more than a decent prospect and a high pick. Schultz isn't that valuable, he is only a PP specialist at this point.


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A. i'm definitely not convinced that that would be the best offer: a mid-1st pick, a prospect who reportedly demanded a trade months ago, and Andrew freaking MacDonald. if there is a team that is willing to move a top-10 pick for Letang, the Pens would look at that offer more than the Isles offer.

B. if they can sign him for less than $7M per year, the Pens keep Letang anyway instead of trading him to a division rival that already matched up well against the Pens. why should they give that team more of an edge by trading Letang?
Why the hate for A-Mac? He's a legit top-4(has been playing top-pair for the last 2 years) who is only 26 years old and making peanuts. I suppose the main pieces of the trade, upside-wise, would be Nino(who regardless of whether he asked to be traded, shouldn't effect his value at all... the Isles don't have to move him; he's still a 20 year old top goal-scoring prospect coming off of a solid AHL and WC showing and is NHL ready) and the 15th, but MacDonald is no throw-in by any means.

IF a team offers a top-10 pick for a potential rental(as good as Letang is), I don't expect much more to be included. I suppose it comes down to what you value more...

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Why the hate for A-Mac? He's a legit top-4(has been playing top-pair for the last 2 years) who is only 26 years old and making peanuts. I suppose the main pieces of the trade, upside-wise, would be Nino(who regardless of whether he asked to be traded, shouldn't effect his value at all... the Isles don't have to move him; he's still a 20 year old top goal-scoring prospect coming off of a solid AHL and WC showing and is NHL ready) and the 15th, but MacDonald is no throw-in by any means.

IF a team offers a top-10 pick for a potential rental(as good as Letang is), I don't expect much more to be included. I suppose it comes down to what you value more...
Staal got a young 3C, a good prospect and the #8 pick. I expect more for Letang. I'm pretty sure that whomever gets Letang would be confident that he would re-sign/would already have a deal in place, so Letang would get a higher return than Staal.

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Staal got a young 3C, a good prospect and the #8 pick. I expect more for Letang. I'm pretty sure that whomever gets Letang would be confident that he would re-sign/would already have a deal in place, so Letang would get a higher return than Staal.
Staal was also a virtual guarantee to sign with Carolina.

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Staal was also a virtual guarantee to sign with Carolina.
And the only other team that could bid for him was the Rangers so his trade value would be lower, but that doesn't fit your "the Pens are screwed" narrative so I guess we should ignore that...

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And the only other team that could bid for him was the Rangers so his trade value would be lower, but that doesn't fit your "the Pens are screwed" narrative so I guess we should ignore that...
I said the Pens are screwed? Uhhhh...

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Luongo + Kassian + 2014 2nd

Would that work?

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Luongo + Kassian + 2014 2nd

Would that work?
No. It wouldn't.

Luongo on that contract is not wanted.

The rest is just a poor deal.

People need to remember that last year the Staal deal. Letangs will be more/better than that.

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Luongo + Kassian + 2014 2nd

Would that work?
hahahaha oh my god no.

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Luongo + Kassian + 2014 2nd

Would that work?
Can we take Henrik Sedin off you in return for Marc-Andre Fleury + Sutter + 2014 2nd?

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It's pretty obvious that Ray Shero wants to keep Malkin, and Malkin is willing. Also, that means Letang is most likely available. What would you have to give up for Letang?
No, it doesn't.

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Luongo + Kassian + 2014 2nd

Would that work?
Yeah I'm pretty sure the last thing that Pittsburgh wants is Luongos garbage of a contract. I'm pretty sure that's a big NO coming from the Pittsburgh camp.

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I'd be fine moving Schneider for Letang seeing as the stigma Luongo has is too great to be involved in pretty much any trade, at least on HF.

Schneider + Bieksa. Do it.

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I'd be fine moving Schneider for Letang seeing as the stigma Luongo has is too great to be involved in pretty much any trade, at least on HF.

Schneider + Bieksa. Do it.
I wouldn't that. Have no/to little interest in Bieksa.

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I wouldn't that. Have no/to little interest in Bieksa.
What would you want? Futures?

I would assume if you traded Letang you would want a replacement top pairing, physical RD.

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