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Roberto Luongo to... ANYWHERE!

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06-11-2013, 06:19 PM
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Roberto Luongo to... ANYWHERE!

I bet you've seen this kind of thread before, but at this point in time, Vancouver will do anything to dump his contract. Make your offers for Lou.

 
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Please just stop....

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This will be my last thread (to get you guys off my back lol)

 
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This will be a fun thread. All it's going to take is one ridiculous comment from someone and this thread will be 20 pages in no time.

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If other teams' GMs are even half as down on Luongo as HF seems to be, I really, really hope we move Schneider.

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If other teams' GMs are even half as down on Luongo as HF seems to be, I really, really hope we move Schneider.
I agree... it doesn't make sense to me to sell low... I personally think people will be surprised that he commands a reasonable return (nothing insane, but he won't be bought out/traded for a late pick etc). I think people are just getting impatient and want it to be over (has anything really changed from last summer?).

I mean if Tampa had to trade one of Lecavalier or Stamkos..
- Vinnies return is a 5th round pick
- Stamkos return is Giroux

Your a better team with Vinnie and Giroux than you are with Stamkos and a 5th...

Kinda the way I have viewed a Schneider trade

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That contract is toxic. I'll be surprised if it's tradeable. between the length, amount and the cap-recapture, teams are right to run.

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I agree... it doesn't make sense to me to sell low... I personally think people will be surprised that he commands a reasonable return (nothing insane, but he won't be bought out/traded for a late pick etc). I think people are just getting impatient and want it to be over (has anything really changed from last summer?).

I mean if Tampa had to trade one of Lecavalier or Stamkos..
- Vinnies return is a 5th round pick
- Stamkos return is Giroux

Your a better team with Vinnie and Giroux than you are with Stamkos and a 5th...

Kinda the way I have viewed a Schneider trade
Loving the optimism. You sir are a saint.

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Loving the optimism. You sir are a saint.
I think the only thing thats really changed from last year is fans patience level....

Not expecting gold but I expect offers to be comparable to last off season, and MG will have to take the best one.

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There will be a taker for Luongo. Probably a 2nd and a prospect.....and Luongo will be very good for that team for 4-5 years. Which team? I dunno.

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Take Horcoff from Oil
Quick and painless trade. Canucks get their 3rd line center (albeit overpayed, but not cap crunching) and most importantly, they save a buy out (only get 2) so they can take advantage of other large contracts in the future (buy someone out in return for players)

Oilers get there #1 goalie who will still be good for 3 years, but have to use a buy out on him in the future


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That contract is toxic. I'll be surprised if it's tradeable. between the length, amount and the cap-recapture, teams are right to run.
To be fair, the amount isn't really a negative, it's the length and especially the re-capture that creates a problem.

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There will be a taker for Luongo. Probably a 2nd and a prospect.....and Luongo will be very good for that team for 4-5 years. Which team? I dunno.
This has been my sense for awhile, but I've become increasing pessimistic over time. With the Canucks drafting though, I'd wish the second was traded right after being drafted by the other team first.

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I agree... it doesn't make sense to me to sell low... I personally think people will be surprised that he commands a reasonable return (nothing insane, but he won't be bought out/traded for a late pick etc). I think people are just getting impatient and want it to be over (has anything really changed from last summer?).

I mean if Tampa had to trade one of Lecavalier or Stamkos..
- Vinnies return is a 5th round pick
- Stamkos return is Giroux

Your a better team with Vinnie and Giroux than you are with Stamkos and a 5th...

Kinda the way I have viewed a Schneider trade
Comparing goalies and centres is a little bit silly though, don't you think?

What it really comes down to is the future of the Vancouver Canucks. How much longer until Luongo retires? How much longer until he stops producing at the level of a #1 goalie? This is why I think the Canucks would be smarter trading Luongo instead of Schneider.


For argument sake, let's predict Luongo stops playing to the capability of a #1 goalie in 5 years.

In 5 years....

Would you rather have

Schneider + Luongo's minimal return in the trade.

Or no number one goalie + Schenider 's return in trade.

I realize their are a lot of variables to consider, like how Eddie Lack progresses. Or maybe the Canucks are able to get a #1 goalie elsewhere. But I just feel the safer move would be to move Luongo, especially considering how Gillis has handled this whole situation.

Will definitely be exciting to see how this plays out, if it does.


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Just buy him out, then you don't have to worry about him anymore

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I agree... it doesn't make sense to me to sell low... I personally think people will be surprised that he commands a reasonable return (nothing insane, but he won't be bought out/traded for a late pick etc). I think people are just getting impatient and want it to be over (has anything really changed from last summer?).

I mean if Tampa had to trade one of Lecavalier or Stamkos..
- Vinnies return is a 5th round pick
- Stamkos return is Giroux

Your a better team with Vinnie and Giroux than you are with Stamkos and a 5th...

Kinda the way I have viewed a Schneider trade
Best team would be Vinnie and Stamkos though

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Just buy him out, then you don't have to worry about him anymore
It's the 27 million over 18 years that's the problem.

I'd do the Horcoff trade. Than buy out Horcoff with the compliance. He's only got like 2 years left and less salary than cap hit.

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How about something completely off-the wall:

To Philly:
Future considerations

To Vancouver:

2013 1st conditional on Luongo signing with Philly after being bought out.

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How about something completely off-the wall:

To Philly:
Future considerations

To Vancouver:

2013 1st conditional on Luongo signing with Philly after being bought out.

There is this crazy thing called the CBA that would have something to say about this trade

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Luongo for Frattin and 2nd

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He's still got value. I think a team like Winnipeg would want him. Vancouver could probs get a 1st.

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Luongo and Bieksa for a 36, Kaberle and Nygren

Montreal buys out Luongo or trades him for futures to another club

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