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10-12-2006, 11:31 AM
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Michel Villeneuve's thoughts

Last night, at 110% , villeneuve said he would enjoys kovalev as a centre.
He said lets keep the same 1st line :

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder


Then, put a better communication adding perezhogin with them :

Samsonov-Kovalev-Perezhogin

Use Latendresse with Bonk and Johnson :

Latendresse-Bonk-Johnson

Use Bégin as a LW, Plekanec will play often in pk with Bégin( nice pass from pleky to Bégin yesterday) and add Downey or Murray.

Bégin-Plekanec-Downey/Murray




So here's the trios:

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Samsonov-Kovalev-Perezhogin
Latendresse-Bonk-Johnson
Bégin-Plekanec-Downey/Murray



I think it would be nice to see these lines BUT

Do not change winning lines!


We can observe problems, I think we could make those changes when things wont works out!

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10-12-2006, 11:33 AM
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Micehl Villeneuve's though process is equivalent to a green Banana that never ripens

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Keep things the way they are...patience is a virtue. Samsonov-Pleks-Kovalev have never played together before, and it takes time to build chemistry. Give them more than 3 games.

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10-12-2006, 11:34 AM
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Villeneuve is retarded.

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10-12-2006, 11:35 AM
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I echo the general feeling here. Michel Villeneuve is one of the biggest idiots in Canada.

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Amazing that this guy gets paid to utter such drivel...

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10-12-2006, 11:36 AM
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The "winning" lines are the 4 lines we have out there now...

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10-12-2006, 11:38 AM
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Last night, at 110% , villeneuve said he would enjoys kovalev as a centre.
He said lets keep the same 1st line :

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder


Then, put a better communication adding perezhogin with them :

Samsonov-Kovalev-Perezhogin

Use Latendresse with Bonk and Johnson :

Latendresse-Bonk-Johnson

Use Bégin as a LW, Plekanec will play often in pk with Bégin( nice pass from pleky to Bégin yesterday) and add Downey or Murray.

Bégin-Plekanec-Downey/Murray




So here's the trios:

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Samsonov-Kovalev-Perezhogin
Latendresse-Bonk-Johnson
Bégin-Plekanec-Downey/Murray



I think it would be nice to see these lines BUT

Do not change winning lines!


We can observe problems, I think we could make those changes when things wont works out!

Those lines actually make sense and that already a miracle considering its coming from Villeneuve.

i only have two problems with them :

1 - I don't like changing winning lines

2 - Kovalev has played has a right winger his whole career. I don't know how well he would play if moved to center. Also, Kovalev passing game is really bad since the start of the season

I like the thought of playing Latendresse with Bonk though, although Perez was doing a mighty good job on the 3rd line

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10-12-2006, 11:41 AM
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Of course, he's ignoring the fact that Kovalev has never played center since entering the NHL. He was drafted as a center/winger but the Rangers instantly noticed his freewheeling style and decided he be best suited for the off-wing (right). Putting Kovalev at center is a disaster waiting to happen. He backchecked yesterday...once. That doesn't make him center material. People would be clamoring Ribeiro's name if Kovalev was moved to center.

The Canadiens would probably be better served moving Markov to center, since he probably has more experience at the position and is a far more responsible player. I'm not suggesting move Markov to center...merely overstating Villeneuve's idiocy.

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10-12-2006, 11:46 AM
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I'm far from convinced Perezhogin would do a better job on the second line than Plekanec.

I'm even further away from convinced Latendresse would do a better job on the third line than Plekanec.

I guess M. Villeneuve doesn't like Tomas?

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10-12-2006, 11:46 AM
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Putting Kovalev at center is a disaster waiting to happen.
agreed.

leave Kovalev where he is.

edit: and hey, Plekanec is playing great hockey. how did he get demoted to the 4th line all of a sudden?

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10-12-2006, 11:56 AM
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Putting a rookie like Latendresse, who is struggling on the fourth line as it is, on the line that is usually sent out to face the opposing team's best players is a disaster waiting to happen.

Plekanec is not an "in your face" type player. His game is skill and speed. Begin is a better choice as an energy line centre, by far.

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10-12-2006, 11:58 AM
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why do ppl even waste their time listening to Villeneuve and that circus act of a show he has?

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10-12-2006, 12:02 PM
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I echo the general feeling here.
Wisper into his ear and you get an echo.

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First of all, I hate Villeneuve but yesterday, is comment make sense with a russian line but like most of you, we should keep the line that we actually have. I would be curious to see how it works but I don't think that Kovalev would put the supplemental effort to play effectively at the center position. I would also like to mention that the point of Villeneuve came from the fact tha Plek seems more confortable with Begin than with Kovy & Sammy but in my book, it'll come! Plek has great vision, he's just intimidated by his linemates and once he will realize that he deserves the spot, he will shine.

Lets not forget that, even with great communication, the Russian team didn't make the medal round for quite some time in the world championship, so it might not fix the problem

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10-12-2006, 12:23 PM
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Brilliant....lets put pPlekanec on the 4th line!

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10-12-2006, 12:36 PM
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Look at this way. Were winning while are second line is struglin. Why brake them up now and not give them a chance to become a very good line. Good lines dont become good overnight. You need time. If we were 0-3 to start off the season than we would have to change things urond to find a winning combination but were not. Alot of people hated julien because he changed his lines way to often. now that we have a coach who is patient with his players you all want him to change his line up

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I aven't seen it, but it's not a dumb idea. Samsonov and Kovalev are two players (like Ribeiro) that are at their best when they control the puck. IMO, it's more common for centers to work that way while wingers are the ones rushing on the boards to get the puck. Currently, Samsonov and Kovalev aren't going for the puck and might be helped playing with a guy like that. You can't ask Plekanec everything.

A few years ago, Damphousse went back to center (was playing center when he was younger), and it helped is career... Kovalev would be good at center, as long as he can take a faceoff. I don't know if he would like it, but who cares.

There are not so many centers on the market (ask Calgary and Atlanta).

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Everyone's way too impatient with the Samsonov-Plekanec-Kovalev line, they'll get it together, they haven't played nearly as bad as people say. The margin of what makes a line successful is so small. I mean in the first two games, a bounce here or there and that line has at least 1 or 2 goals, then no one talks about that line struggling.

Just be patient, the lines are fine the way they are.

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..and of COURSE Lats is upped to the 3rd line and Plekanec is on the 4th!

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I have a better idea. Let's have Markov center the 2nd line. With Dandenault.

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Villeneuve is dumb...can't believe this guy is in the buiseness.

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Of course, he's ignoring the fact that Kovalev has never played center since entering the NHL. He was drafted as a center/winger but the Rangers instantly noticed his freewheeling style and decided he be best suited for the off-wing (right). Putting Kovalev at center is a disaster waiting to happen. He backchecked yesterday...once. That doesn't make him center material. People would be clamoring Ribeiro's name if Kovalev was moved to center.
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Excepted for the faceoffs , Kovalev IS playing like a center . He's the one who controls the puck . In reality , this line doesn't have anything but centers .

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10-12-2006, 05:36 PM
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..and of COURSE Lats is upped to the 3rd line and Plekanec is on the 4th!
Do you know that they are not playing at the same position ?

It 's betwen Bonk and Plekanec that you have to choose , for the 3-4 th lines .

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I'm in favour of giving the line a few more games at least, but if I had to make a change, it would be to swap Perezhogin and Samsonov. Perezhogin has really hustled, and his size and forechecking might be just what that line needs down low, where Sammy tends to turn it over a lot.

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