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06-12-2013, 10:50 AM
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Sign Vigneault and be done with it already

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Vigneault left the Rangers in California last night. Expect the Dallas Stars to reconnect with him in the next day or two
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On a serious note, it is ridiculos if Dave Tippet is not our coach next season -- if we want him to be our coach.

Completely ridiculos.

Dave Tippet is today coaching a bankrupt budget team in the worst hockey market in NA. We unlimited resources. What's Tippet paid in PHX? 1m? Well give him 7m to get him here, he would be the first ever to turn down that amount of money.

If Slats want Tippet, he should go out and get him.
Hes under contract. That would be tampering.

Waiting until July 1 just to hear that Tippett doesnt want to come to NYC is a big risk.

But, yes, out of all the names mentioned, he'd be my first choice. I just dont think it'll happen.

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06-12-2013, 11:02 AM
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With Bylsma being extended today and not unemployed, look for the NY Rangers to make a decision on their Coach very soon.
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All of the complaints I've seen about last season, besides the inept powerplay, are just not very rooted in reality. Lets see....



It was a 48 game season, no training camp, a major roster turnover in the summer and another one before the trade deadline. I dont think you'll find any coach willing to overhaul the system of play under those types of conditions.
Oh please, not the 'no camp' excuse. Chicago had no camp, were they complaining? If the Rangers weren't ready, that's more an indictment on the coaching staff for not getting them ready before each game. And really, after the first month of the season, that excuse needed to go away.


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This is quite possibly the most outlandish complaint of all given the personnel. Dorsett - Boyle - Pyatt were the 3rd line in the playoffs. Do I need to get into the horrors that were on the 4th? Why complain about running all the horses, when you simply dont have enough?
Really? It's outlandish? No it isn't. There is a bench full of players. I don't care what YOU think of them, the fact is if they're on the bench, they need to play. A good coach will figure out how to use them to be successful. Again, not maximizing individual player strengths. When the opposition is using their full bench, you do NOT shorten yours and expect to win games. Not how it works. It's outlandish to think you can. That's what's outlandish.


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I agree here, but personally, instead of more upheaval, I wouldve preferred another coach added to the staff for this
No one is suggesting upheaval. The bottom six needs a little more skill and speed and anywhere else they can improve the roster they should. There is no one set way to reach a Cup Final and win. The Blackhawks are in the Finals, not with the same roster they had 3 years ago. The Bruins are in the Finals, with mostly the same roster from 2 years ago.


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Its my opinion that its not a championship roster, no matter who the coach is. Tortorella is 1 of 2 coaches to bring his team past the 1st round of the playoffs the past 2 seasons. His firing wasn't results based. If you think the roster is better than how far its gone the past 2 seasons, you are delusional.
Because YOU say it isn't makes it so? Ok. You have no idea how next season is going to play out. You don't know who will be subtracted or added to the roster. We don't know who the coaching staff will be or what their philosophy will be. Yet, I'm the delusional one? Ok. And besides the point, i never said they were a Championship caliber team. What i said is, had this staff done their job correctly and the players played to their potential, they could have been a home ice team.


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Regarding the rest of your post, what indication has this organization given you to suggest theres any sort of master plan in place???
I read.

Gorton, especially is candid about the direction and philosophy several times per year.

You think because they essentially swapped Nash and Gaborik that changed anything? They recouped the depth lost in the Nash trade. Gaborik's contract was going to be expiring, he is an injury risk, and more often then not he refuses to show up shift-to-shift. Nash didn't score in the playoffs, but he was moving his feet. Same can't be said for Gaborik most nights. Still he needed to be better.

The infusion of young/cheap talent will continue to happen. As it has year-to-year.

Staal needs to be healthy.

Things turned around when Gorton joined the organization in 2007. The entire philosophy changed as he started to get his hands more on the club and his position within the club has risen.

Sather is a problem. Its the old boys club. When he finally steps away and Gorton takes over, there will be more hockey decisions made, and less publicity stunts. I believe Gorton is the one who is really behind most of the positive decisions made within the club.

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06-12-2013, 11:09 AM
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It would behoove them to act quickly. Vigneaut is not going to be on the market much longer.

Assuming he's the guy they want, and i believe he is.

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My feelings on all these candidates range from tepid to dread. I guess AV would be ok, we'll see.

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I'm thinking we will have a new coach within the next 48-72 hours.

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this comment makes me think that sather had bylsma and AV pegged as his 2 choices and leaning more on the side of Bylsma. At this point id be shocked if AV is not named coach by next week

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Convinced it will be AV and have come to terms with that, better get on it don't want us defaulting to Messier because all our candidates got snatched up.

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this comment makes me think that sather had bylsma and AV pegged as his 2 choices and leaning more on the side of Bylsma. At this point id be shocked if AV is not named coach by next week
Praise Jesus.. I did not want Bylsma

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On a serious note, it is ridiculos if Dave Tippet is not our coach next season -- if we want him to be our coach.

Completely ridiculos.

Dave Tippet is today coaching a bankrupt budget team in the worst hockey market in NA. We unlimited resources. What's Tippet paid in PHX? 1m? Well give him 7m to get him here, he would be the first ever to turn down that amount of money.

If Slats want Tippet, he should go out and get him.

That is a great point Ola. Dolan has never been afraid to spend money. If you need a several million dollar signing bonus to get a coach so be it!

I do think Sather will be careful how he approaches this because of Maloney. Business is business, but at the same time Sather is fiercely loyal. So I guess it just depends on how Tippet plays things. I think Tippet has to announce he is going to interview around, and do so, and then be hired by the Rangers. If it was sudden the Rangers "steal" Tippet on July 1 that wouldn't look good for Maloney and therefore Sather probably wouldn't do it.

And of course, in any case this would be after Sather's self-imposed deadline of before the draft on June 30.

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That is a great point Ola. Dolan has never been afraid to spend money. If you need a several million dollar signing bonus to get a coach – so be it!

I do think Sather will be careful how he approaches this because of Maloney. Business is business, but at the same time Sather is fiercely loyal. So I guess it just depends on how Tippet plays things. I think Tippet has to announce he is going to interview around, and do so, and then be hired by the Rangers. If it was sudden – the Rangers "steal" Tippet on July 1 – that wouldn't look good for Maloney and therefore Sather probably wouldn't do it.

And of course, in any case this would be after Sather's self-imposed deadline of before the draft on June 30.
unless maloney gives sather permission there can be NO contact until the 30th. Correct me if im wrong but that is tampering. And the pro sports leagues now a days are coming down HARD on tampering.

I do not want whatever blow back that will come from tampering at all

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I'm leaning towards AV.

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Praise Jesus.. I did not want Bylsma
Yes, this move reaks of Jesus...

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unless maloney gives sather permission there can be NO contact until the 30th. Correct me if im wrong but that is tampering. And the pro sports leagues now a days are coming down HARD on tampering.

I do not want whatever blow back that will come from tampering at all
I agree. Sather can't do anything until July 1. I believe I read the Maloney specifically denied Tippet permission to speak to anyone.

So problem number one for Tippet is that Sather said he wanted a coach before July 1. But better to get the best guy for the job late than a lesser guy sooner.

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Ugh. I want Tippett so bad, but Vigneault is my #2/#3 choice along with Guy Boucher

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Ugh. I want Tippett so bad, but Vigneault is my #2/#3 choice along with Guy Boucher
Agreed, thats what I feel.

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That's one of three overrated coaches who have either won nothing at all or nothing lately!

Nice job by ****sburgh rewarding Bylsma who has underachieved the past 3 years with the top talent in hockey by a country mile.

Now let's see if the teflon GM trips over himself trying to convince another loser coach in AV to become the coach here and take us back to square #1!

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Sure they can. The roster in these playoffs was completely different than last year's, and yet Tortorella continued to employ the same tactics and systems. He failed at maximizing individual player strengths. He failed to get his coaching staff to employ anything resembling successful tactics on the power play. He continued to shorten the bench while the opposition rolled 4 lines and 3 pairs.

Even if the next coach does everything exactly how Tortorella did it, but improved his power play tactics, the team will have more success.

This roster isn't garbage. There is enough talent on this team to have home ice in the playoffs (under the current format). And they will address some needs this summer.

This is why it is important to get whoever is their guy, hired sooner, rather then later. They need it done before the draft so he can pick his staff, go through the process of hiring them, have the organization on the same page regarding the new philosophy, what roster needs are, etc etc. The draft is where rosters start to form for the next season. The staff needs to be ready to provide their input for their needs during free agency.

Then the coach needs to be in contact with his players to let them know what to expect and what to be prepared for.

A new coaching staff could absolutely have a major impact on the success and/or failure of this roster. A good coach and a good staff will be able to get more out of what they have.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Rangers are a "middle of the road" team in the league that has a better shot at struggling to make the playoffs than it does finishing with a home ice advantage.

I don't care who they hire as coach, there is nobody out there who will make an appreciable difference in our performance given the flawed roster we have.

With all the contracts coming up between this year and in the next 2 years, time to accept the fact that this roster may look a hell of lot different in 2 years and the window of opportunity to win may have already closed for us!

That's just my opinion though.

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And there are fewer fans who post here that the team is devoid of talent.
Good point dude. I think they refer to that as "blind loyality" or "let's bury our heads in the sand" or "the glass is always 1/2 full".

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Rangers are a "middle of the road" team in the league that has a better shot at struggling to make the playoffs than it does finishing with a home ice advantage.

I don't care who they hire as coach, there is nobody out there who will make an appreciable difference in our performance given the flawed roster we have.
You're right. Nobody has mentioned anything similar to this idea until you came along. Now, all of our eyes have been opened.

I'm tired of all the roster commentary in this thread.

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Heres the question - given the personnel, can you see any of those guys being more successful than Torts has been the past 2 seasons?

I cant...
There isn't a coach out there that's going to overachieve the way Torts did with the mediocre roster we have in place!
It's back to square #1 which will include yet another rebuild by the teflon GM. Is this his 4th or 5th rebuild now?
I believe we've all seen this movie before; more replays than "The Godfather."

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