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06-12-2013, 01:04 PM
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If we can get anything of value I'd be surprised. I would be keen to move him just for the space.
Agreed.

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Plz no...
whta? of course that's the target, but he has to negotiate.....

Just because the player wants something, doesnt mena he's going to get it

it's all part of the process

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Isles fan dropping by.

Streit is looking for at least 3 years, which was probably the reason the Isles didn't resign him. He's good on the PP and has a nice shot, but he has deteriorated considerably since his injury. If the Flyers can keep the years down, he'd definitely be worth it but I'm not sure he'll settle for anything less than 3 years.

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Call me crazy, but does a defense of

Timonen Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann

...actually seem quite good?

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Call me crazy, but does a defense of

Timonen Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann

...actually seem quite good?
Better than last year that's for sure

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If we can get anything of value I'd be surprised. I would be keen to move him just for the space.
Definitely. The cap space would probably be the most valuable part of the trade.

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Call me crazy, but does a defense of

Timonen Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann

...actually seem quite good?
The D looked decent on paper last year, too, and we all know how that turned out...

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06-12-2013, 01:08 PM
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Well when Dallas gives Sergei Gonchar 5M per, it's hard to suggest he isn't capable of pulling it on the open market.

Dreger is saying he wants 4 years, so hopefully something in the 3 year 15M range can get it done otherwise gotta hope their smart enough to just walk away (yeah right).
Don't understand the complaining.

We have the room, and Streit is EXACTLY the defenseman we need right now.

And he cost us freaking a 4th.

You guys still want to give up Couturier for Yandle? Let me clarify by saying that Yandle costs 5.25m in space (roughly the same as Streit will cost), Yandle plays the same type of game Streit plays (he is just younger), and he is only slightly better than Streit is now. Plus you lose something valuable; maybe not Couturier (because he's not worth Couturier), but definitely something.

Yandle is not a defensive superhero and neither is Streit. However, we don't need a defensive superhero; we need someone who can move the puck next to Coburn and make him a reasonable defenseman again.

Streit was literally the best option on the market considering the price, experience, and talent level.

Negotiate with him. Don't give him 6m on 4, but definitely try to knock him down to 5m on 3. If you have to settle in between that, then fine.

Seriously though. This is fantastic news.

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06-12-2013, 01:09 PM
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Call me crazy, but does a defense of

Timonen Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann

...actually seem quite good?
As long as we don't get hit with a cluster **** of injuries again.

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Yes, he turned down the 3-year/5.5mio isles offer
He turned down 3 yrs/$4.75m per. According to Newsday he wants $5.5m per.

He's been on the 2nd pairing s few seasons now, still able to eat up mins and contribute on the pp.

I read that Streit was playing this season on a bad leg, that needed rest to heal. I give him big props for playing through the injury, helping the team make the playoffs.

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I like it. He is durable seeing he played 75+ games last few full seasons and puts up around 40 pts per 82 games. I can live with 5 or 6 mil contract.

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Don't understand the complaining.

We have the room, and Streit is EXACTLY the defenseman we need right now.

And he cost us freaking a 4th.

You guys still want to give up Couturier for Yandle? Let me clarify by saying that Yandle costs 5.25m in space (roughly the same as Streit will cost), Yandle plays the same type of game Streit plays (he is just younger), and he is only slightly better than Streit is now. Plus you lose something valuable; maybe not Couturier (because he's not worth Couturier), but definitely something.

Yandle is not a defensive superhero and neither is Streit. However, we don't need a defensive superhero; we need someone who can move the puck next to Coburn and make him a reasonable defenseman again.

Streit was literally the best option on the market considering the price, experience, and talent level.

Negotiate with him. Don't give him 6m on 4, but definitely try to knock him down to 5m on 3. If you have to settle in between that, then fine.

Seriously though. This is fantastic news.
Agree 100%, well said

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Call me crazy, but does a defense of

Timonen Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann

...actually seem quite good?
would look even better if Coburn wasn't there

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would look even better if Coburn wasn't there
No. It would actually look pretty defensively unstable.

You're going to count on Streit to log heavy PK minutes?...

Absolutely foolish to think that that defense would look better without the defenseman who logged the most minutes for your team last season. Timonen and Streit aren't exactly spring chickens, Grossmann is coming off a concussion, Meszaros is made of glass, Gustafsson is young, and that only leaves Schenn and Coburn.

Let me reiterate by saying this right now. If you think Coburn should be gone, you better replace him with someone better than Lauridsen before you type out any ridiculous thoughts like "Coburn sucks."

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Watch him catch a puck in the eye on debut.

He wants 6 a year for 4 years. That means he'll get ~5.25 a year for 3.
Well, at least he is wearing a visor

As far as freak injuries are concerned it can happen to anyone and unless our GM pulls a full Homer and offers him a lunatic 5 year deal, LTIR is always a last resort to take care of that. Also, Kimmo Timomen and his 6M salary will most likely come off the books as soon as next season.

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No. It would actually look pretty defensively unstable.

You're going to count on Streit to log heavy PK minutes?...

Absolutely foolish to think that that defense would look better without the defenseman who logged the most minutes for your team last season. Timonen and Streit aren't exactly spring chickens.
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Sorry.

I'm used to yelling at people anymore.

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Perhaps we see a Dan Hamuis situation? Trade his rights elsewhere for a higher pick like Homer did a few years back.

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id do a four year deal at 17 mil. I hate the over 35 but hes the best available option. I think this is the end of the offseason for us if he signs. (well this and gagne)

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Call me crazy, but does a defense of

Timonen Schenn
Streit Coburn
Gus Grossmann

...actually seem quite good?
Not sure, but better. Moving everyone down a peg helps significantly -- regarding the 3-4 5-6 pairs at least. "Solid" is the word I would use. The table was wobbly-- now at least it isn't super shakey. Sturdy.

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Don't understand the complaining.

We have the room, and Streit is EXACTLY the defenseman we need right now.

And he cost us freaking a 4th.

You guys still want to give up Couturier for Yandle? Let me clarify by saying that Yandle costs 5.25m in space (roughly the same as Streit will cost), Yandle plays the same type of game Streit plays (he is just younger), and he is only slightly better than Streit is now. Plus you lose something valuable; maybe not Couturier (because he's not worth Couturier), but definitely something.

Yandle is not a defensive superhero and neither is Streit. However, we don't need a defensive superhero; we need someone who can move the puck next to Coburn and make him a reasonable defenseman again.

Streit was literally the best option on the market considering the price, experience, and talent level.

Negotiate with him. Don't give him 6m on 4, but definitely try to knock him down to 5m on 3. If you have to settle in between that, then fine.

Seriously though. This is fantastic news.
Who was complaining, I don't want to trade Couturier period unless they get blown away, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be jumping for joy because they kept him just to (potentially) overpay Mark Streit.

At this point he's a 35 year old 2nd pairing defenseman, and while his skill set will help the Flyers I think it would be asinine to give him anything more than 3y/15M. Given the organization's tendency to spend what it takes to get their guy, I don't think anybody is being unreasonable for waiting to see what the contract is before doing cartwheels.

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Harper? God no! Shut down the team. It's over!
thank you lol I hope more moves are coming striets God Dan good d man but we need more I honestly don't think gus is ready to be an everyday NHL caliber d man, not yet anyways ..... lord knows that last statement will bring on the ********

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Sorry.

I'm used to yelling at people anymore.
I still think Coburn sucks and should be traded, but I wouldnt be replacing him with The Dane

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I can't see him signing a 2 year deal. I really can't. We shall see though. And for the record I like the move. He is a great top 4 guy that won't be a drama queen.

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Yandle is not a defensive superhero and neither is Streit. However, we don't need a defensive superhero; we need someone who can move the puck next to Coburn and make him a reasonable defenseman again.

Do you think if Carle hadn't been allowed on the open market which didn't have to happen and drove his price up that we would be ok and not need Streit?

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