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06-12-2013, 01:53 PM
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Komisarek at 2.25m FREE WALLET

Would any teams be interested in picking up Mike Komisarek at half price for no assets for 1 year?

Would anyone take Komisarek off of our hands at 1.75m?


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06-12-2013, 02:11 PM
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Why would the Leafs not just buy him out with 1 of our 2 compliance buyouts instead of having 2.25 in wasted cap space that we could do something with next season?

If Komisarek is dealt it'd be for a worse contract. Komisarek only has one year with an actual salary of 3.5 next year/4.5 cap hit for a worse contract (buy out candidate).

Buyout candidates or simply badly overpaid players like Jovocop, Upshall, Ballard, Booth, Malone, Horcoff all have 2 years remaining. Ruutu, Volchenkov, Jones all have 3 years. Umberger has 4 years.

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Would any teams be interested in picking up Mike Komisarek at half price for no assets for 1 year?

Would anyone take Komisarek off of our hands at 2.25m?
Would be a 2.25m cap hit, the team would only pay 1.75m since Komi's salary for the upcoming season is only 3.5

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Why would the Leafs not just buy him out with 1 of our 2 compliance buyouts instead of having 2.25 in wasted cap space that we could do something with next season?

If Komisarek is dealt it'd be for a worse contract. Komisarek only has one year with an actual salary of 3.5 next year/4.5 cap hit for a worse contract (buy out candidate).

Buyout candidates or simply badly overpaid players like Jovocop, Upshall, Ballard, Booth, Malone, Horcoff all have 2 years remaining. Ruutu, Volchenkov, Jones all have 3 years. Umberger has 4 years.
The leafs are already going to be pressed up against the 64m cap. This cap is set to drop an additional 4 mil at the end of next season. I just dont see the point in using a buyout on KOMI. Leafs need to utilize their buyouts in a more productive way. Whether its acquiring a big contract with assets attached, and/or using it to rid ourselves of longer term deals I.E GRABO or LILES.

Bottom line, management needs to look passed next season because cap management is going to get much harder down the road. Its easy to say "trade Grabo or Trade Liles" but in reality there are slim to no teams teams in a position to pick up these contracts.

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The leafs are already going to be pressed up against the 64m cap. This cap is set to drop an additional 4 mil at the end of next season. I just dont see the point in using a buyout on KOMI. Leafs need to utilize their buyouts in a more productive way. Whether its acquiring a big contract with assets attached, and/or using it to rid ourselves of longer term deals I.E GRABO or LILES.

Bottom line, management needs to look passed next season because cap management is going to get much harder down the road. Its easy to say "trade Grabo or Trade Liles" but in reality there are slim to no teams teams in a position to pick up these contracts.
Liles is tradeable. Gonchar just got 5 million on a 2 year deal. Streit is likely to sign with Philly for probably something 5 to 5.5 for 3 years if the rumours are correct. Liles can still be a very good PP QB, is better than any of the free agent options available and makes under 4. We might get a lot back for him but he's definitely tradeable.

Grabo is also tradeable and had a down year. One in which he was a new father, didn't play anywhere during the lockout, was sent to a specialist for an ab issue that could have potentially plaguing him all year, was misslotted as a 3rd line center. Everyone has thrown him under the bus very quickly.

The cap will go back up after next season plus Armstrong/Tucker buyouts will stop counting against our cap.

I'm all for trading Komi for a worse buyout with an asset attached. But no way should we have that 2.25 counting against our cap next season.

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06-12-2013, 03:01 PM
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Why would any team, even if they are giving nothing up, help you out of a cap problem by taking a player off your hands that is no longer an NHL player? Even a slightly worse cap dump is still better if that player can play in the NHL, as that cap space is not dead cap for a player that is not filling a uniform, you are at least getting something for it. Even if you retain 50% of his cap, its not worth it to any team if he can't play for them.

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The leafs are already going to be pressed up against the 64m cap. This cap is set to drop an additional 4 mil at the end of next season. I just dont see the point in using a buyout on KOMI. Leafs need to utilize their buyouts in a more productive way. Whether its acquiring a big contract with assets attached, and/or using it to rid ourselves of longer term deals I.E GRABO or LILES.

Bottom line, management needs to look passed next season because cap management is going to get much harder down the road. Its easy to say "trade Grabo or Trade Liles" but in reality there are slim to no teams teams in a position to pick up these contracts.
You really think the cap is going to continue to drop? It never dropprd ONCE during the last CBA this drop is a 1 time thing

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Why would any team, even if they are giving nothing up, help you out of a cap problem by taking a player off your hands that is no longer an NHL player? Even a slightly worse cap dump is still better if that player can play in the NHL, as that cap space is not dead cap for a player that is not filling a uniform, you are at least getting something for it. Even if you retain 50% of his cap, its not worth it to any team if he can't play for them.
We arent in a cap problem. Just being pro-active. The leafs werent about to pass up on taking Lupul for free because we were doing anaheim a favor. Thats not how hockey works. If a team sees value in a player, they will pick him up. Komisarek will play in the NHL again, just depends on which team sees value.

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You really think the cap is going to continue to drop? It never dropprd ONCE during the last CBA this drop is a 1 time thing
The cap is set at 64m next year and set to drop again to 60m in the following year.

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The cap is set at 64m next year and set to drop again to 60m in the following year.
I know it's currently 64 million but do you have credible source saying it will go to 60?

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The cap is set at 64m next year and set to drop again to 60m in the following year.
I've seen this bounce around a bit lately but no source for it (capgeek lists the 2014-15 cap at 64.3M). Not saying it's wrong, just want some clarity if you can provide it!


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that 60m isnt accurate, it will likely go up after 64 next year. Its not going to keep going down, thats crazy.

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Habs take Komisarek back if Leafs take Kaberle back and buy them all snow cone machines...

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Leafs will use a free buy out on Komi.

No reason to have cap on the books

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Tell me more about the wallet.

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Meh... came in here hoping for a free wallet, leaving feeling like I got blind sided by a time share salesman.

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Would any teams be interested in picking up Mike Komisarek at half price for no assets for 1 year?

Would anyone take Komisarek off of our hands at 1.75m?
Burkie is in Anaheim, so there's hope...

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The cap is set at 64m next year and set to drop again to 60m in the following year.
No, it isn't. The cap can't drop below $64.3m under the new CBA.

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The Leafs could move Komi if they pick up enough salary, but in any case, don't expect to get anything of value back. Basically, if they eat $3M of dead cap space they could add a 7th round pick and save themselves a compliance buyout for next year. Is it really worth it?

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The Leafs could move Komi if they pick up enough salary, but in any case, don't expect to get anything of value back. Basically, if they eat $3M of dead cap space they could add a 7th round pick and save themselves a compliance buyout for next year. Is it really worth it?
2.25 is the max they can eat as 50% is the max

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I know it's currently 64 million but do you have credible source saying it will go to 60?
There isn't one, because it's false.

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Buy him out and someone can sign him for 900k.

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There isn't one, because it's false.

From the CBA itself:
For some reason i thoguht that the cap was gradually decreasing to 60m which was why the buyouts extended to next season. Looks like im wrong. One time that im more then happy to admit so.

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For some reason i thoguht that the cap was gradually decreasing to 60m which was why the buyouts extended to next season. Looks like im wrong. One time that im more then happy to admit so.
they tried to negotiate that with the NHLPA...but they rightfully said no. Heck, the revenues htye made this season of 48 games is likely enough to sustain a higher Cap than what we're saddled with next year.

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Leafs will use a free buy out on Komi.

No reason to have cap on the books
Why would they waste it with 1 year left in the deal

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