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10-12-2006, 04:43 PM
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Please guys get off

Perezhogin he's our future 35 goal scorer no need to be bringing he's confidence down, if anything send Latendresse back to junior if he wants to complaint!!

Team rewards for effort and presence and so far Perezhogin has proven lot of nay sayer wrong, lets please enjoy his play!!

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10-12-2006, 04:44 PM
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I understand what your saying but I just think putting Lats in Perez spot would really give us a spark on that third line.
Yeah because that third line has sucked so much!!! Lets change it up and pray that we can win a game sometime soon.

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10-12-2006, 04:47 PM
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I watched most of the game yesterday, and was very impressed with the Habs on the whole.

While the goals were not the product of transition zone play per se, the passes made on SH 2 on 1s and such were precision passes, and very good.

Even Bonk put in a solid performance, using his size around the net.

All around good stuff from the Habs.

And what is a win without a laser-beam wrist shot from Kovalev?

You should be proud of your guys for this one.

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10-12-2006, 04:49 PM
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I would still trade Bonk for a bag of pucks. The play where he just handed the puck to Philly's defenceman instead of pushing it in the corner was brutal.

On the bright side, his value is probably at it's highest.


I fail to see why Johnson's and Bonk's play means Latendresse should get better ice time? Higgins is playing well so let's put Lats on the 1st line. You're not making sense.
I've always felt Bonk has received an unfair rap. Defensively, the latter half of last year (especially in the playoffs) he was terrific, and so far this season (although it is incredibly early) he has been great for us again. The only way I see that people can knock him is the fact that he is recieving too much moola. But he fills an important niche on this team and does his job well (so far anyways!).

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10-12-2006, 04:49 PM
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Your telling me if your goal is to get as many points as possible out of Latendresse you play him with Begin and Downey/Murray rather then Bonk and Johnson? Ok there buddy.
The goal is to get the most out of all your players and win games.

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10-12-2006, 04:52 PM
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Yes that is the point... All I'm saying is that I think Latendresse would make more of his opportunity on that line then Perezhogin has. The goal is to win and I think our team is better with Latendresse on a line with Bonk and Johnson then it is with Perezhogin on it.
I see. I originally thought you just wanted Tender on the 3rd so he could get more points.

But in this case I have to disagree again. Perezhogin is playing very well and there's no reason to think Tender would add much to that line.

Plus, Perezhogin would just add nothing on the 4th. At least now Lats has a chance to learn the NHL game on this line (He is getting 9 mins of TOI per game) and not have too much pressure or responsibilites. Meanwhile, Perezhogin can continue to be an effective contributor on a good all-around line.

At this point it would detrimental to change them around.

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10-12-2006, 04:54 PM
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Latendresse played with Begin and Downey last night you do realize that, right?
Ryder when he started his career on the 4th line, would still manage to put up points

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Perezhogin might be playing well be we need results. I say give him two more games. If he doesn't start putting a few points on the board move Latendresse up.
Don't rush it. Latendresse doesn't deserve a promotion yet. He hasn't come close to getting points but Perezhogin has.

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10-12-2006, 04:57 PM
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Riiiight... so based on 1 good shift, Latendresse should get moved up.

And based on 3 solid games Perezhogin should get moved down.

Sounds good.
Only to the naive, not to those who who know something about hockey.

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10-12-2006, 04:59 PM
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Ryder when he started his career on the 4th line, would still manage to put up points
I find that the biggest mystery about fans on this forum. They truly think that offensive players will not develop if they play on the 4th line; that you have to play on the top 2 line or your career will be ruined... And this is after the last 2 seasons of Ryder starting out on the 4th line and then Higgins starting out on the 4th line. Both are top line players now.

When will NHL GMs learn that their only ruining their prospects by not playing them on the top 2 lines from the start?

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10-12-2006, 05:00 PM
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As opposed to the offensive dynamo that is Radek Bonk. I bet Downey had more points than Bonk last year.
You know he didn't. Of course, I'm sure that you, like the rest of us, appreciated the way Bonk handled Forsberg last night--and that's not being sarcastic.

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10-12-2006, 05:01 PM
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Bonk is playing terrif hockey!!! A couple of missed opportunities on the offesive side of things, but I like what I've seen from him thus far.

Bob traded for his defensive abilities, but he really hasn't demonstrated anything this year. I can't remember the last time I saw Bonk finish a check, or forecheck with any degree of effort.

Its too bad, because he could still be a much more useful player if he had an ounce grittyness to go with his frame.

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I think that Latendresse should be playing on the third line and the Perezhogan should be droppped down to the fourth.
Latendresse has been invisible thus far, and warrants no movement in the lines.

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10-12-2006, 05:10 PM
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As opposed to the offensive dynamo that is Radek Bonk. I bet Downey had more points than Bonk last year.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...000452006.html

You lose the bet.

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10-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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why dont we put murray on the first line, he also has no points and created almost

nothing, and we could put higgins on the fourth, ryder on the third, and trade

perezhogin for G.I Joe

go G.I Joe!!!!!!!!!

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10-12-2006, 05:59 PM
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Demote Perezhogin in favour of Lats. Oh man I love this place.

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10-12-2006, 06:08 PM
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Bob traded for his defensive abilities, but he really hasn't demonstrated anything this year. I can't remember the last time I saw Bonk finish a check, or forecheck with any degree of effort.
What do you mean by "he hasn't demonstrated anything this year"?

He shut down everyone he played against, and had a few scoring chances that he created for himself. He had one or two breakaways, and a few partial ones. Don't tell me he hasn't been good, because he has been playing great hockey. Now I agree he's not gritty, but that's just not Radek's game and he wasn't brought in to ring the opponants' bells.

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10-12-2006, 06:12 PM
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Yeah I suck at betting. I didn't even bother to look up any stats because I'm just too lazy but sarcasm aside, I still would get rid of Bonk.

He's not useless or even a detriment to his team it's just my opinion.

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10-12-2006, 06:19 PM
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Lats would spark up the third line? eh he hit once in 3rd game come on! Perezhogin is great so far he's just everywhere on the ice. Lats seems completely lost in D. He was everywhere except where he had to be. Latendresse doesnt impress me so far. He's young he only played 3 game this is not critica; but he doesnt deserve any promotion. Perez is the forecheker on that line and Latendresse dont have perez speed and quickness so I rather use perez on that line.

Perez-Johnson-Latendresse?

Are you crazy? This is a shut down line I dont think Latendresse will bring what bonk bring in his own zone for sure.

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10-12-2006, 06:24 PM
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Lat does not deserve anything more then the 4th line. He has had a few good shifts but Perez has been way better.

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Why make change when your team caught 5 of 6 possible points on the road ?

Some people are crazy...

All of fourth line have show something good...


Habs fan > mad woman

they're more annoying... I'm the only one who is piss off?

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10-12-2006, 06:26 PM
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Perezhogin might be playing well be we need results. I say give him two more games. If he doesn't start putting a few points on the board move Latendresse up.
What points has Latendresse put up?

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What points has Latendresse put up?
Bonk is 40 points, tops. Time to put Lats on that line and see what he can do. I'm convinced that Lats-Perez are a duo. THe fourth line has Begin, that's all it needs anyway. Throw Bonk down there.

Anyone who questions Lats has mashed potatoes for eyes.


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Latendresse played with Begin and Downey last night you do realize that, right?
So? Begin had more goals then Bonk last season.

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10-12-2006, 06:57 PM
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Bonk is 40 points, tops. Time to put Lats on that line and see what he can do. I'm convinced that Lats-Perez are a duo. THe fourth line has Begin, that's all it needs anyway. Throw Bonk down there.

Anyone who questions Lats has mashed potatoes for eyes.
Thank God Carbo's in charge...

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Yeah I suck at betting. I didn't even bother to look up any stats because I'm just too lazy but sarcasm aside, I still would get rid of Bonk.

He's not useless or even a detriment to his team it's just my opinion.
I can see your points in reguards to Bonk and can understand why you would want to see him traded. However, his value is next to nil right now. He would get a 4th rounder in return, max. I doubt the market is very strong for big underachieving centerman with hefty contracts.

I say we play him for the rest of the season and let him walk once his contract is up. The one thing he does bring is veteren depth on a young squad.

Personally, I havent given up on Bonk. At times last season, he did elevate his game. Although I dont expect consistancy, I do expect him to repeat this type of surge at a few points this season, and hopefully we'll see these at key moments

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