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06-12-2013, 08:38 PM
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Ondrej Pavelec

Just curious to see how Jets fans value him. As a Coyotes fan, I'd love to see Sean Burke work with him.

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Some fans love him, others not so much. At times he's brilliant and can steal a game, other times, again, not so much. His stats are somewhat "meh". But he's really all we have in terms of a starting goalie. I don't really know much about what PHX has for goaltenders. I personally would rather have Pavs over Smith and value Pavs more. We just hope he can become more consistent and become the goalie that he's shown he can be.

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Probably closer to being bought out than traded. I don't see many teams taking his deal on.

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Pavelec is a maddening combination of Hasek-like reaction saves and Toskala-like mediocrity...Jets games are always exciting & emotionally exhausting.

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He's one of the worst starters in the league, and has no trade value.

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Probably closer to being bought out than traded. I don't see many teams taking his deal on.
You are INSANSE.

All I see you doing if putting down the Jets

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You are INSANSE.

All I see you doing if putting down the Jets
Huh? First time that's been said about me. Most people call me a homer haha

Until Pavelec can raise his sv% to above those of a mediocre backup, I don't see any team wanting him with his current contract.

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Pavelec is a maddening combination of Hasek-like reaction saves and Toskala-like mediocrity...Jets games are always exciting & emotionally exhausting.
Actually a very accurate assessment. He has the ability to in one night produce both the save of the year and the worst play of the night on TSN

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What would phoenix be willing to give for Pavelec, would Gormley be available?

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Maybe a 2nd round pick at the most.

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Most polarizing player on the Jets team. Some fans would call him MVP, myself personally...I want a new goaltender.

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He's one of the worst starters in the league, and has no trade value.
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no9t really.

In every measurable way (besides fan adoration) he IS one of the worst starters in the league

of starters he has had one of the worst sv% for three years.


that's not arguable.


He's got a lot of tools, very athletic, great reflexes, but has pisspoor fundamentals. The problem is this leads him to making gigantic saves on routine shots which further makes fans think he's something special.

he has the potential to be special if he can figure it out, and i really hope he does, but he is currently one of the least effective goaltenders and extrodinarily ineffecient as far as performance vs caphit is concerned.

his purpose is to stop pucks. sv% is a hard stat about how likely he is to stop a puck. he is less likely to stop a puck then almost any other starter in the league.

these are facts.

many opinions say he is great/mvp, but the facts clearly say otherwise.

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I'd love to get Smith if it isn't to much. Pavelec is still decent, and he's the only guy we have, so unless we get a good goalie it's doubtful we trade him.

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Just curious to see how Jets fans value him. As a Coyotes fan, I'd love to see Sean Burke work with him.
As a JETS/Coyotes fan, I can agree with what the other JETS fans are saying. Pavelec is a workhorse with a flair for making amazing saves.

That said, he is inconsistent and I believe in Phoenix, Burke would make the JETS look foolish for trading him. Burke would settle him down and he'd become more patient, waiting on shooters as opposed to biting on head fakes and such. In all honesty, for Pavs to reach his full potential, it would be the best move for his career. Burke could turn Pavs into one of the better goalies in the NHL.

I'd definitely consider a Gormley/rights to Smith deal.

Or just convince Burke to come to Winnipeg. (he probably like nice parks too)

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Huh? First time that's been said about me. Most people call me a homer haha

Until Pavelec can raise his sv% to above those of a mediocre backup, I don't see any team wanting him with his current contract.
Wait.....I am getting you confused with someone else........where am I? What year is it?


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Idk, but every time the Flyers play him he puts up like 40 saves and looks like the best goalie in the league

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Idk, but every time the Flyers play him he puts up like 40 saves and looks like the best goalie in the league
He's a Jekyl and Hyde type of goalie, that's why it's hard to pinpoint his value. One night he'll make otherworldly saves and keep us in a game and then next he'll let in two soft ones and take us out of it. If he doesn't put up consistent numbers next year I hope the Jets use an amnesty buyout and get rid of him while we still can.

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Idk, but every time the Flyers play him he puts up like 40 saves and looks like the best goalie in the league
Thank god this ****ing guy moved out West. He literally did look like the best goalie in the league everytime he plays us.

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Pavelec is a maddening combination of Hasek-like reaction saves and Toskala-like mediocrity...Jets games are always exciting & emotionally exhausting.
I'd have to agree with this. Pavs is very inconsistent but the skill and athleticism is there, if he can stay consistent he'd be one of the better starters in the league.

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"I'd definitely consider a Gormley/rights to Smith deal. "

Really? I'm not a Pavs hater, but not a lover either. He is what he is. I assume that he is with us for the length of his contract since he will have low trade value (what have you actually done stats and win wise Pavs?).

But I jump all over your Gormley & rights to Smith deal. If we can sign Smith for the same length of time as Pavs is for $5.25-$5.5 and get a young LHD then I'm thrilled.

And you're right. If he gets on the right path in defensive system Phoenix then he could a lights out steal. But I'll do the deal for Smith & Gormley.

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Pavelec is a maddening combination of Hasek-like reaction saves and Toskala-like mediocrity...Jets games are always exciting & emotionally exhausting.
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ive liked pavelec even when he played in atlanta, always thought he's one of these great czech goaltenders. question is if he can take that step and become elite

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ive liked pavelec even when he played in atlanta, always thought he's one of these great czech goaltenders. question is if he can take that step and become elite
If he could get a good enough coach that could drive positioning into his brain than he could likely cross into the elite level.

Until then we're stuck watching him making great looking miracle diving saves because he was out of position in the first place.

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consistency is a real bear for goaltenders. Pavelec is no different. He clearly has the talent to be a fine NHL netminder, the question is if he is driven to excel at a higher level next year.
Assuming he is interested in challenging himself to be better and ironing out the creases, I think the Jets are in fine shape.

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