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06-13-2013, 09:04 AM
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It would have been almost impossible for Soderberg to have been worse last night than Daugavins.

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I disagree, that was a great defensive play by Oduya to tie his stick up there.
I don't know. He got him initially but KD had a nice second swipe at it too and flubbed it. Not to mention, had he just one-timed that pass from Seguin instead of going to the backhand, he almost definitely had a goal. Easy to say from the couch, but still....

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06-13-2013, 09:10 AM
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I disagree, that was a great defensive play by Oduya to tie his stick up there.
sarcasm, or...?

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06-13-2013, 09:25 AM
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I don't know. He got him initially but KD had a nice second swipe at it too and flubbed it. Not to mention, had he just one-timed that pass from Seguin instead of going to the backhand, he almost definitely had a goal. Easy to say from the couch, but still....
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I think he should be inserted into the lineup. Any chance he is in if Horton can't go?

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I think he should be inserted into the lineup. Any chance he is in if Horton can't go?
100% chance I'd say. Line 3.

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06-13-2013, 10:12 AM
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If he or Paille can play the off-wing and roll this

Lucic - Krejci - Seguin
Marchand - Bergeron -Jagr
Soderberg - Rich - Paille
Dog - Kelly - Thornton

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06-13-2013, 10:18 AM
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If he or Paille can play the off-wing and roll this

Lucic - Krejci - Seguin
Marchand - Bergeron -Jagr
Soderberg - Rich - Paille
Dog - Kelly - Thornton
I'd leave Paille at LW, move Pevs to RW and put Soderberg at C. Pevs can take faceoffs if necessary, but I think Yeti looked better at C than LW in the few games we saw him at the end of the season.

Lucic - Krejci - Seguin
Marchand - Bergeron - Jagr
Paille - Soderberg - Peverley
Daugavins - Kelly - Thornton.

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I don't know if there will be enough glass to break in all our collective homes if Pandolfo gets the nod. Hahaha man that would be something.

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I'd leave Paille at LW, move Pevs to RW and put Soderberg at C. Pevs can take faceoffs if necessary, but I think Yeti looked better at C than LW in the few games we saw him at the end of the season.

Lucic - Krejci - Seguin
Marchand - Bergeron - Jagr
Paille - Soderberg - Peverley
Daugavins - Kelly - Thornton.
Good point I forgot Soderberg played center.

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I don't know if there will be enough glass to break in all our collective homes if Pandolfo gets the nod. Hahaha man that would be something.
I will not be happy if this happens.

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I think the odds of Soderberg playing C over Peverely in game 2 of the SCF is about 0%

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06-13-2013, 10:29 AM
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All I know is they must have thought highly of him to go through hoops to get him signed. If they don't put him in and next year he does prove to be a key contributer, they are going to have some serious splainin to do if they lose this series.
Everyone insists we are sitting on some sort of gold mine when the people who made the effort to get him here aren't even putting him in the lineup!!! Can we please cut this out!!! He is not going to play. He did nothing in his audition to earn time over Caron at this stage. Nothing.

If this team loses this series it will have nothing to do with the lack of Carl Soderberg. Absolutely, positively nothing.

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I think the odds of Soderberg playing C over Peverely in game 2 of the SCF is about 0%
But what about that goal he scored on Lars Gdflbnlgbnlsdnbsdlkn in January over in Sweden? Or when he deeked Sven Kvbsdbgbdvigvbsbd out of his pants that day last November?

You gotta get him out there!

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Everyone insists we are sitting on some sort of gold mine when the people who made the effort to get him here aren't even putting him in the lineup!!! Can we please cut this out!!! He is not going to play. He did nothing in his audition to earn time over Caron at this stage. Nothing.

If this team loses this series it will have nothing to do with the lack of Carl Soderberg. Absolutely, positively nothing.
The only thing that Caron has going for him over Soderberg at this point is that he's actually played a game in the past month. That's the only reason I can see him getting in the lineup over Soderberg.

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All I know is they must have thought highly of him to go through hoops to get him signed. If they don't put him in and next year he does prove to be a key contributer, they are going to have some serious splainin to do if they lose this series.
They would??? One could argue, if he does play a significant role next year and is a key contributor it`s because he wasn`t thrust into duty too quickly.

He wasn`t the savior in his few regular season games, and to expect/believe he would be now wouldn`t be wise

Heard more than a few players speak about, especially when new or yet unfamiliar with the NHL playoff game some of the best lessons they learned was from their time watching upstairs

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06-13-2013, 10:40 AM
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Everyone insists we are sitting on some sort of gold mine when the people who made the effort to get him here aren't even putting him in the lineup!!! Can we please cut this out!!! He is not going to play. He did nothing in his audition to earn time over Caron at this stage. Nothing.

If this team loses this series it will have nothing to do with the lack of Carl Soderberg. Absolutely, positively nothing.
I usually agree with your posts, but I don't here. I have no issue with Caron and I wouldn't be against him being brought out for Saturday's game, but I think Soderberg has way more skill and speed, and I think size, than Dog and would have better finish ability out there. What has Dog done other than execute a trick penalty shot? Other than that, he's really just a body out there. Soderberg got an assist in the few games he played and, aside from having some crazy legs, looked to have very good hockey IQ and awareness and a good shot. Don't see how you can be so assured that he would bring nothing to the table.

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The only thing that Caron has going for him over Soderberg at this point is that he's actually played a game in the past month. That's the only reason I can see him getting in the lineup over Soderberg.
1. He has played in the Bruins system a lot longer
2. He has played in the NHL for way more than 6 games
3. He has played PLAYOFF games at the NHL level

Frankly I can't think of one thing Soderberg has over Caron aside from the fact he led an inferior league in scoring. Are we that mesmerized by scouting reports from foreign leagues?

Give me the kid who has played actual playoff games on this team any day of the week before an unknown.

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I usually agree with your posts, but I don't here. I have no issue with Caron and I wouldn't be against him being brought out for Saturday's game, but I think Soderberg has way more skill and speed, and I think size, than Dog and would have better finish ability out there. What has Dog done other than execute a trick penalty shot? Other than that, he's really just a body out there. Soderberg got an assist in the few games he played and, aside from having some crazy legs, looked to have very good hockey IQ and awareness and a good shot. Don't see how you can be so assured that he would bring nothing to the table.
Seriously? Got an assist? You're hanging your hat on his one assist? And Caron doesn't seem to have decent hockey IQ and awareness? Seems like a steady 3rd-4th liner to me.

I'm fairly certain every option to replace Horton is going to be a spare part. If I had to choose I'd pick a guy who has played NHL playoff games before at this level. And I'd choose Caron over Pandolfo because Pandolfo is 85 years old. Soderberg looked like he had some hands in warmups, so that's great. In the games he was a non-factor. I'd like to see him get an offseason and a camp and then we can talk about what we have in him. I don't want him anywhere near a Cup Finals game.

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1. He has played in the Bruins system a lot longer
2. He has played in the NHL for way more than 6 games
3. He has played PLAYOFF games at the NHL level

Frankly I can't think of one thing Soderberg has over Caron aside from the fact he led an inferior league in scoring. Are we that mesmerized by scouting reports from foreign leagues?

Give me the kid who has played actual playoff games on this team any day of the week before an unknown.
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A better arguement would be putting Caron in and Soderberg and scratching Dogman.

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Seriously? Got an assist? You're hanging your hat on his one assist? And Caron doesn't seem to have decent hockey IQ and awareness? Seems like a steady 3rd-4th liner to me.

I'm fairly certain every option to replace Horton is going to be a spare part. If I had to choose I'd pick a guy who has played NHL playoff games before at this level. And I'd choose Caron over Pandolfo because Pandolfo is 85 years old. Soderberg looked like he had some hands in warmups, so that's great. In the games he was a non-factor. I'd like to see him get an offseason and a camp and then we can talk about what we have in him. I don't want him anywhere near a Cup Finals game.
I've always been a Caron advocate. I think my point was not so much that I wouldn't have Caron in there, but that I'd rather have Soderberg, as well, in place of Daugevins, who I don't think can add much value in this SCF.

BTW, yes, just based upon my brief observation of Soderberg, I think he has a solid skillset that would allow him to become even a 2nd line player. Not saying that Caron doesn't, but IMO Soderberg certainly does.

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Seriously? Got an assist? You're hanging your hat on his one assist? And Caron doesn't seem to have decent hockey IQ and awareness? Seems like a steady 3rd-4th liner to me.

I'm fairly certain every option to replace Horton is going to be a spare part. If I had to choose I'd pick a guy who has played NHL playoff games before at this level. And I'd choose Caron over Pandolfo because Pandolfo is 85 years old. Soderberg looked like he had some hands in warmups, so that's great. In the games he was a non-factor. I'd like to see him get an offseason and a camp and then we can talk about what we have in him. I don't want him anywhere near a Cup Finals game.
Actually, he had 2 assists, but who is counting? That's 2 assists in 6 NHL games while getting acclimated to the new ice surface. Daugavans who has played in North America for years has 1 goal and 3 assists in 28 total games this year. This team NEEDS scoring from its 3rd line and fast. I don't know if Soderberg can do it. Maybe, maybe not. One thing I do know is Dagavins can't and Caron hasn't.

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Actually, he had 2 assists, but who is counting? That's 2 assists in 6 NHL games while getting acclimated to the new ice surface. Daugavans who has played in North America for years has 1 goal and 3 assists in 28 total games this year. This team NEEDS scoring from its 3rd line and fast. I don't know if Soderberg can do it. Maybe, maybe not. One thing I do know is Dagavins can't and Caron hasn't.
Okay so that's a position I can understand.

Since Soderberg has some skill and succeeded elsewhere, what the hell? Take a flyer and see what happens. I'm okay with that completely.

I just get frustrated by folks who claim he "should" be in there like he earned it or is an obvious better option. He's not. He's just another gamble who might offer offense. That's fine. I wouldn't do it but it's reasonable.

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Seriously? Got an assist? You're hanging your hat on his one assist? And Caron doesn't seem to have decent hockey IQ and awareness? Seems like a steady 3rd-4th liner to me.

I'm fairly certain every option to replace Horton is going to be a spare part. If I had to choose I'd pick a guy who has played NHL playoff games before at this level. And I'd choose Caron over Pandolfo because Pandolfo is 85 years old. Soderberg looked like he had some hands in warmups, so that's great. In the games he was a non-factor. I'd like to see him get an offseason and a camp and then we can talk about what we have in him. I don't want him anywhere near a Cup Finals game.
Not to mention Soderbergs assist was actually a phantom one. He didn't even touch the puck on that goal.

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