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06-13-2013, 10:22 AM
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It's amazing to think the flyers skill level if couts and schenn work out well. I mean imagine what this team looks like if schenn is a 70 pt player...
It's a tough situation though.

In order to maximize Schenn's potential, we should be trying to develop him as a Mike Richards-esque center.

In order to maximize our roster's potential, we should be trying to develop him as a Shane Doan-esque winger.

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06-13-2013, 10:29 AM
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It actually a really good team. I just am totally against trading Couts. If we can trade Read instead for Ryan then I would do that, but I do not want to trade Couts
Fair enough. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him, but for a guy like Ryan I would (assuming Shattenkirk is offer sheeted).

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06-13-2013, 10:32 AM
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Fair enough. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him, but for a guy like Ryan I would (assuming Shattenkirk is offer sheeted).
Are we still down to offersheet Shattenkirk?

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06-13-2013, 10:33 AM
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Are we still down to offersheet Shattenkirk?
Not at 6.8 million that someone suggested.....

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06-13-2013, 10:34 AM
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Are we still down to offersheet Shattenkirk?
I think we could still be in play. Streit is not a long term solution by any means.

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Not at 6.8 million that someone suggested.....
That's the only way they get him, and at that I still think the Blues match.

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06-13-2013, 10:53 AM
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Curiosity question, because I'm rather indifferent on this one, but do we consider going after Letang now that Malkin got the extension?

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Are we still down to offersheet Shattenkirk?
So it would be better to sign Shattenkirk to a giant offersheet, losing at least a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rd pick if not more, than get Rundblad on the cheap because Shattenkirk is a year or two ahead in his development? They are similar type players; right handed PMDs. This is the problem with the cuurent Flyers thinking: it is better to overpay for immediate results than to patiently develop for a season or two.

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Letang is going to be way overpaid. Probably by the Pens. Regardless, I don't want him.

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So it would be better to sign Shattenkirk to a giant offersheet, losing at least a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rd pick if not more, than get Rundblad on the cheap because Shattenkirk is a year or two ahead in his development? They are similar type players; right handed PMDs. This is the problem with the cuurent Flyers thinking: it is better to overpay for immediate results than to patiently develop for a season or two.
No, I'm not in favor of trading for Shattenkirk or Rundblad anymore based on the price to acquire them honestly.

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Curiosity question, because I'm rather indifferent on this one, but do we consider going after Letang now that Malkin got the extension?
He's rumored to be looking for $7-8M a year so I hope not.

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06-13-2013, 11:04 AM
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He's rumored to be looking for $7-8M a year so I hope not.
Even if they had the cap space, that is a whole lot of cap space for Letang.

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He's rumored to be looking for $7-8M a year so I hope not.
Oh lord jesus, ain't nobody got time for that!

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It's amazing to think the flyers skill level if couts and schenn work out well. I mean imagine what this team looks like if schenn is a 70 pt player...
Honest to god, without a sieve in goal, the sky is the limit for this team. The amount of raw talent we have is enviable to say the least. Just need to be patient. Therein lies the problem...

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06-13-2013, 12:24 PM
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Going to throw this under a "rumor" type of post. Up to mods if they want to leave it or not (since I'll be quoting a person I dont think is recognized as a "source")

According to TheFourthPeriod though:

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In order to fit Streit's new deal under the cap next season and make additional roster moves, Holmgren plans on buying out the contracts of center Danny Briere and goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov

According to a league source close to the situation, the decision to buy out both players was made once Philadelphia's season ended, and while there has been internal debate over buying out Bryzgalov, such a move will be made shortly after the conclusion of Stanley Cup Final.

Teams are allowed a total of two compliance buyouts, to be used this off-season and/or next summer, and those figures will not count against the salary cap.

TFP first reported the Flyers' decision on Briere on May 23.

Briere, 35, has an annual salary cap hit of $6.5 million for the remaining two years of his contract, but is owed only $5 million in actual salary -- $3 million next season and $2 million in 2014-15. He would be owed $3.333 million over the next four seasons.

The league source also indicated that the decision to buy out Bryzgalov's deal isn't fully related to money, as "he's disliked by many" of his teammates.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi130613.html

Goes on to state that we are still after Yandle (which Im hoping we are not) and the team is looking to grab a guy to replace Briere (my guess is a guy like Ryder via FA)

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06-13-2013, 12:30 PM
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Going to throw this under a "rumor" type of post. Up to mods if they want to leave it or not (since I'll be quoting a person I dont think is recognized as a "source")

According to TheFourthPeriod though:



http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi130613.html

Goes on to state that we are still after Yandle (which Im hoping we are not) and the team is looking to grab a guy to replace Briere (my guess is a guy like Ryder via FA)
Wow. As much as I hoped Bryz was going to be bought out, I didn't really think it would happen. I was excited when they brought him in. Defended him for his entire first season (and part of this season). I've been over it for a while. Good riddance. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

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06-13-2013, 12:34 PM
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I don't like the fact that it says we're finalizing a 4 year extension with Streit

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Goes on to state that we are still after Yandle (which Im hoping we are not) and the team is looking to grab a guy to replace Briere (my guess is a guy like Ryder via FA)
I am calling BS on the Yandle rumors. With Timonen and Streit, the Flyers already have two left handed PMD's in their top 4, unless they plan on putting one of them on the 3rd pair at over $5 mil a year.

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06-13-2013, 12:48 PM
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I believe that report. I was thinking to myself that Bryz is the type of guy with a personality you either love or hate. It happened in Phoenix and it happened in Philly. I just don't think he's a good teammate. At times he threw them under the bus even if the defense sucked in front of him he still shouldn't have made the comments he has in the past in the media.


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Letang would be a great addition, but Pittsburgh would never trade him to Philadelphia. I don't think there's any way they trade him at all.

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06-13-2013, 01:00 PM
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I am calling BS on the Yandle rumors. With Timonen and Streit, the Flyers already have two left handed PMD's in their top 4, unless they plan on putting one of them on the 3rd pair at over $5 mil a year.
The only thing I can think of is that they are looking to maybe move someone like Coburn. That being said though, too many puckmovers, not enough defensive defenders.

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06-13-2013, 01:01 PM
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I am calling BS on the Yandle rumors. With Timonen and Streit, the Flyers already have two left handed PMD's in their top 4, unless they plan on putting one of them on the 3rd pair at over $5 mil a year.
Agree. Also with the growth and development of Gus. I don't see them trading for Yandle. Mez is the odd man out and I see him traded for a modest return.

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The only thing I can think of is that they are looking to maybe move someone like Coburn. That being said though, too many puckmovers, not enough defensive defenders.
I think Cobbie stays. He had a down year but there is no way they move him and keep Mez who can't even stay healthy.

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I have a bad feeling that with the cap space gained from buying out Briere and Bryz, Homer is going to give Clarkson a big contract

Also, who replaces Bryz? Would we bring in Backstrom and a short-term deal? And don't say Mason because he's not a shoe-on to be this team's starting goalie at this point in time.

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I think Cobbie stays. He had a down year but there is no way they move him and keep Mez who can't even stay healthy.
a down year? Coburn has gotten progressively worse ever since his eye injury

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The only thing I can think of is that they are looking to maybe move someone like Coburn. That being said though, too many puckmovers, not enough defensive defenders.
I don't know, I think it is a good mix. If they got Yandle, th epairings would presumably be something along the lines of this...

Timonen-Yandle
Schenn-Streit
Grossmann-Coburn

Schenn and Grossmann are strictly defensive D-men. Yandle is offense and Streit is offense. Coburn and (moreso) Timonen are a little of both.

That being said, I think if they land Yandle then Mez and Coburn would both be traded.

EDIT: I don't know what PHX is looking for for Yandle, but do you think it would be possible to get him without giving up Couturier/Read/Schenn? As I have said in the past, I would probably be ok giving up Cuoturier (which I know is not a popular sentiment), but obviously I would prefer not to. I wonder if the deal included Mez or Coburn (or both) what the Flyers would have to add to get Yandle...

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