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06-11-2013, 04:00 PM
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How has Timmins achieved his success?

So, as a "kid" who'll be going to college soon, I've always wanted to become a sports agent or scout. Whether I'm a big shot or not doesn't matter. I'll be heading to McGill for business. I'm just curious. Where did Timmins go to college, and what was his degree in? I want to know everything from college until now about his life. Thanks.

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"Timmins is a graduate of Queen’s University in Physical Education. He also completed a Master of Business Administration (Queen’s) and earned a Master’s degree in Sports Administration at the University of Ottawa. He was born on January 5, 1968, in Almonte, Ontario"

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Kostitsyn over Brown, Carter, Seabrook, Parise and Getzlaf. Get a new role model.

This may, or may not have had a touch of sarcasm to it.

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Why do you want to be like timmins? By the looks of it he doesn't even lift....

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Kostitsyn over Brown, Carter, Seabrook, Parise and Getzlaf. Get a new role model.

This may, or may not have had a touch of sarcasm to it.
Timmins wanted Carter, Gainey wanted Kostitsyn.
Timmins wanted Giroux, Gainey wanted Fisher.

I think his role model is fine.

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Timmins wanted Carter, Gainey wanted Kostitsyn.
Timmins wanted Giroux, Gainey wanted Fisher.

I think his role model is fine.
Both are false actually. It was reported (by who I don't know, though it does get passed around as tho it is a fact here) that Andre Savard wanted Carter, we don't know who pushed for Andrei.

Also it has been confirmed (God knows how many times) that another Habs scout vouched for Fischer, having coached him early in his hockey career.

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I don't remember where I read it, but Timmins had a lock on Giroux. Gainey had the final word and wanted Fischer.

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I don't remember where I read it, but Timmins had a lock on Giroux. Gainey had the final word and wanted Fischer.
This is not true. Grant Mccagg, a former scout of the Habs who posts here confirmed that it was another scout on the scouting team that went to bat for Fischer.

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Actually the scout is still with the team, and he coached Fischer in minor hockey and went to bat for him in terms of his character and potential having coached him. Timmins really liked Giroux..but he liked Fischer as well....he wouldn't have drafted him in the first round if he didn't think he was a future NHLer. Timmins was hoping to get a crack at Giroux in the second round with the two picks they had...they traded down from 16 to 20 with San Jose IIRC.

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This is not true. Grant Mccagg, a former scout of the Habs who posts here confirmed that it was another scout on the scouting team that went to bat for Fischer.
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LOL - I never recommended Fischer. I wasn't on the staff at the time. It was Pat Westrum.

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Maybe you should edit your post and take off the scout name, it could get Grant into trouble.

Also Timmins started as a conditioning coach for the Sens and when a scout was sick or something he was asked to go do some scouting in his place and he came back with a very good report and was offered a scouting job and climbed to the top quickly.

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Timmins wanted Carter, Gainey wanted Kostitsyn.
Timmins wanted Giroux, Gainey wanted Fisher.

I think his role model is fine.
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Both are false actually. It was reported (by who I don't know, though it does get passed around as tho it is a fact here) that Andre Savard wanted Carter, we don't know who pushed for Andrei.

Also it has been confirmed (God knows how many times) that another Habs scout vouched for Fischer, having coached him early in his hockey career.
It has been highly speculated that in 2003, Trevor Timmins wanted to draft Ryan Getzlaf. I never heard about Andre Savard wanting Carter, but the rest of the scouting staff were high on AK46 because he was supposed to go in the top 5, but dropped because of his epilepsy issue, fixed by Dr. Recchi...i mean Dr. Mulder, the Habs Team Doctor.

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Getzlaf, Giroux ?

Dont EVER listen to somebody else. Let Timmins rocks his boat.

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Getzlaf, Giroux ?

Dont EVER listen to somebody else. Let Timmins rocks his boat.
Highly speculated, never confirmed.

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To answer your question and not spark another Timmins debate...


As far as scouting goes, this is a thread from 2006 but it's still pretty relevant and has lots of posts from people who have gotten into scouting and what the job entails, how to get your foot in the door if you don't have any connections, etc:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=253740

And Sports Management Worldwide offers some online courses that might be useful, including Hockey GM & Scouting and Athlete Management Courses if you want to become an agent:

http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide...ey-gm-scouting

http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide...t-sports-agent

It seems to me like a lot of agents come from law backgrounds, so that might be a better bet than business if that's the route you choose.

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A lot of legends about timmins.

I have also read that wanted to draft John carlson in 2008.

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To answer your question and not spark another Timmins debate...


As far as scouting goes, this is a thread from 2006 but it's still pretty relevant and has lots of posts from people who have gotten into scouting and what the job entails, how to get your foot in the door if you don't have any connections, etc:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=253740

And Sports Management Worldwide offers some online courses that might be useful, including Hockey GM & Scouting and Athlete Management Courses if you want to become an agent:

http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide...ey-gm-scouting

http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide...t-sports-agent

It seems to me like a lot of agents come from law backgrounds, so that might be a better bet than business if that's the route you choose.
Wow. Thanks a lot for all these links and informations. Pretty interesting tbh. However, it changes my plans a little...

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"Timmins is a graduate of Queen’s University in Physical Education. He also completed a Master of Business Administration (Queen’s) and earned a Master’s degree in Sports Administration at the University of Ottawa. He was born on January 5, 1968, in Almonte, Ontario"

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Thank you very much.

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Kostitsyn over Brown, Carter, Seabrook, Parise and Getzlaf. Get a new role model.

This may, or may not have had a touch of sarcasm to it.
As well as Gallagher over a few hundred guys. Subban, Mcdonagh, and Pacioretty over quite a few. We can play this game all day long..

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Why do you want to be like timmins? By the looks of it he doesn't even lift....
I don't want to be like Timmins. I mean, it'd be pretty awesome (yet stressful) to do his job for a week. I'm merely interested in his career and how he got into his position, other than hearing about connections.

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I've got a head start then. I have a Taurus. A nice 2001 Silver Ford Taurus SE. And, for your information, it's the coolest Taurus in the country. A taurus with a huge ass Habs sticker on the back window, with two twelve inch subwoofers.

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To answer your question and not spark another Timmins debate...


As far as scouting goes, this is a thread from 2006 but it's still pretty relevant and has lots of posts from people who have gotten into scouting and what the job entails, how to get your foot in the door if you don't have any connections, etc:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=253740

And Sports Management Worldwide offers some online courses that might be useful, including Hockey GM & Scouting and Athlete Management Courses if you want to become an agent:

http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide...ey-gm-scouting

http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide...t-sports-agent

It seems to me like a lot of agents come from law backgrounds, so that might be a better bet than business if that's the route you choose.
Merci beaucoup!

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Timmins was not the problem since 2003, Gainey and Gauthier were, they did not hire the right people to do a good job around them, they made most of the decisions on there own and when they did use other people, the people they were consulting were not good at what they did (example: Gomez trade).

Timmins in my opinion is the best head of amateur scouting in all of the NHL.

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Timmins was not the problem since 2003, Gainey and Gauthier were, they did not hire the right people to do a good job around them, they made most of the decisions on there own and when they did use other people, the people they were consulting were not good at what they did (example: Gomez trade).

Timmins in my opinion is the best head of amateur scouting in all of the NHL.
Don't underestimate the Kekalainen-era Blues (and, by that logic, the Blue Jackets as they stand today)...

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Whether its something unethical they've done, an affair they've confided in you about , hold onto it.

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