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06-10-2013, 03:34 PM
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More like eight years
Oh so he's going to be bad/average starting next year? I was under the impression that at least 4 or 5 of the next years Lundqvist will most likely still be very good. Oh well, let's not sign him at all then if he's going to be bad for 8 years starting now. Maybe we can trick some sucker to take him for a pick or something.

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Oh so he's going to be bad/average starting next year? I was under the impression that at least 4 or 5 of the next years Lundqvist will most likely still be very good. Oh well, let's not sign him at all then if he's going to be bad for 8 years starting now.
That's not what I said...but you already knew that.

It's a big cap hit for all eight years. Period.

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That's not what I said...but you already knew that.

It's a big cap hit for all eight years. Period.
Are you expecting to sign Malkin for 6mil? Do you think 8mil is an overpayment for Lundqvist? You want good players, you pay, I can't believe this is news to you.

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Are you expecting to sign Malkin for 6mil? Do you think 8mil is an overpayment for Lundqvist? You want good players, you pay, I can't believe this is news to you.
I can't believe you would pay him $8 million per for eight years.

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I can't believe you would pay him $8 million per for eight years.
Holy ****. Please go back to read my previous posts. Nowhere did I say that was a good idea. I asked what should we spend it on instead. We're probably not going to get a huge return for 1 year of Lundqvist. If we trade him, and get an average goalie like you've suggested because you want to spend the cash somewhere else: What do we go after? Because right now I don't see the options.

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Holy ****. Please go back to read my previous posts. Nowhere did I say that was a good idea.
Well, a few minutes ago you posted this:

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Do you think 8mil is an overpayment for Lundqvist? You want good players, you pay
So you think it's both a good idea, and a bad idea...got it.

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Well, a few minutes ago you posted this:



So you think it's both a good idea, and a bad idea...got it.
Stop dodging the question, what do we go after without Lunqvist of the availible players?

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Do you think 8mil is an overpayment for Lundqvist? You want good players, you pay
ment I thought it was a good idea. Actually, even though english is not my 1st language, I know that it does not. It means exactly that, if you want good players to pay good.

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06-13-2013, 02:09 PM
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So Malkin just signed a 9.5M contract.

Lundqvist's max is instantly pushed down to 9 at the very most he can possibly ask for.

He opens at 9, Sather should open at 6.75. Settle at 7.5.

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06-13-2013, 02:13 PM
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Lundqvist will be going to Brooklyn IMO. 8 yrs at 80 mil.

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Lundqvist will be going to Brooklyn IMO. 8 yrs at 80 mil.
Cool. So he'll never get his number retired here. If he ditches us for Brooklyn or the Devils, he can forget ever being welcomed by this fanbase again.

Let the Islanders be dumb enough to spend 10M on a goalie.

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06-13-2013, 02:22 PM
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Cool. So he'll never get his number retired here. If he ditches us for Brooklyn or the Devils, he can forget ever being welcomed by this fanbase again.

Let the Islanders be dumb enough to spend 10M on a goalie.
Isles are an up-and-coming team with a lot of cap space available. They have legitimate cornerstones to build around on offense and defense. I could totally see Lundqvist going there.

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Isles are an up-and-coming team with a lot of cap space available. They have legitimate cornerstones to build around on offense and defense. I could totally see Lundqvist going there.
I can't. I can see him going to California or something of the sort. Not to the Islanders. Can you really see him tarnishing his entire legacy as a Ranger to sign with the Islanders? If that's the case, you can put him into the category of only caring about the almighty dollar. Not a bad thing, but he'd have very little integrity. Just as the Devils complained about Gomez and Holik.

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I can't. I can see him going to California or something of the sort. Not to the Islanders. Can you really see him tarnishing his entire legacy as a Ranger to sign with the Islanders? If that's the case, you can put him into the category of only caring about the almighty dollar. Not a bad thing, but he'd have very little integrity. Just as the Devils complained about Gomez and Holik.
Money talks IMO. Messier left for money in Vancouver, not too much peeping about him. Jagr left for money with the Flyers, he doesn't get vehemently booed. I agree, it would definitely tarnish his legacy here deservedly or undeserving....

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Lundqvist will be going to Brooklyn IMO. 8 yrs at 80 mil.
Why do you bother posting crap like this? Is it wishful thinking or are you trying to mentally prepare yourself if he leaves?

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Money talks IMO. Messier left for money in Vancouver, not too much peeping about him. Jagr left for money with the Flyers, he doesn't get vehemently booed. I agree, it would definitely tarnish his legacy here deservedly or undeserving....
There is a big difference in leaving for Vancouver than leaving for the Islanders.

What does Jagr have much to do with anything? He went from the KHL to the Flyers. Unless Philly has this massive rivalry with Omsk I am unaware of . . .

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Why do you bother posting crap like this? Is it wishful thinking or are you trying to mentally prepare yourself if he leaves?
Pretty sure it's the former. So he can tell us how right he is and everything when it happens. He's such a big fan of the Rangers that he actually roots for the team to suck. That crazy, new, hipster way of rooting for a team.

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There is a big difference in leaving for Vancouver than leaving for the Islanders.

What does Jagr have much to do with anything? He went from the KHL to the Flyers. Unless Philly has this massive rivalry with Omsk I am unaware of . . .


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Money talks IMO. Messier left for money in Vancouver, not too much peeping about him. Jagr left for money with the Flyers, he doesn't get vehemently booed. I agree, it would definitely tarnish his legacy here deservedly or undeserving....
Mess went to the west, Jagr went to the KHL before coming back to the NHL. I'd hardly use either of those situations to compare to Hank. Either way he's not going to the Isles.

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Lundqvist will be going to Brooklyn IMO. 8 yrs at 80 mil.
Don't see that happening. At his age and with his skill and frustration with where the Rangers are at, why would he go to a team that's even further back? Yeah, they have a seriously incredible 1C in Tavares, but they have a ton of other holes. They're at least as far from being ready to contend seriously as the Rangers are, if not further.

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We can only make so many moves in one offseason, and there’s a good chance we won’t be strong contenders again next year.

Lundqvist wants to win. His next contract is his last one most likely. Will the NYR be able to convince him that we will be a legit SC contender in the next few years? Can they demonstrate in this offseason that a definite course action is going to be followed to ensure this?

I think the NYR need to know if they moves they make this offseason will keep Henrik here, because if he’s planning on testing free agency, then we should start including him as a trade piece and build in front of a younger goalie.

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06-13-2013, 03:20 PM
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If that's the case, you can put him into the category of only caring about the almighty dollar. Not a bad thing, but he'd have very little integrity. Just as the Devils complained about Gomez and Holik.
If Hank were to leave for money (which won't happen knowing the Edmonton Genius controls the checkbook), that would make him just a normal athlete.

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Don't see that happening. At his age and with his skill and frustration with where the Rangers are at, why would he go to a team that's even further back? Yeah, they have a seriously incredible 1C in Tavares, but they have a ton of other holes. They're at least as far from being ready to contend seriously as the Rangers are, if not further.
As much as I hate that stupid team....that's not true. The Islanders are not further back, and they have a TON of cap space (even a lot more than Hank would take up) to use to improve even further. With Hank they become a much better team, and they can also add a lot more than Hank.

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So Malkin just signed a 9.5M contract.

Lundqvist's max is instantly pushed down to 9 at the very most he can possibly ask for.

He opens at 9, Sather should open at 6.75. Settle at 7.5.
Hanks cap hit is 6.85 now. Not going to open negotiations at less.

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As much as I hate that stupid team....that's not true. The Islanders are not further back, and they have a TON of cap space (even a lot more than Hank would take up) to use to improve even further. With Hank they become a much better team, and they can also add a lot more than Hank.
How are they not further back? Rangers went to the ECF last year, then the second round this year. Islanders didn't even make the playoffs for 5 years, then got in this year and lost in the first round. Yeah, they gave Pitt a few good games, but they were good compared to what was expected of them, which was practically nothing. The Rangers disappointed by losing in the second round. The teams have totally different expectations on them at this point. The Isles very well may be a force in the future, but they're not one now and they still have a ton of work to do.

Cap space doesn't really impress me or dictate which team is closer to contending.

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