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06-15-2013, 07:40 PM
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Assistant Coaches?

Soooo, are we gonna fix that disaster?

Should we not go with the two most embarassing points of strategy- PP and defense? Block shots. Done. (No idea what on earth I could to associate anything with the word "strategy" regarding what he might've said to do on the PP).

Would he bring in his own guys?

(For the crowd that wanted him)Would he consider Messier? Would he even be a good assistant?

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#NYR 1 person that filled out NYR coaching questionnaire? Ulf Samuelsson. Highly regarded w/in org, Could warrant consideration for asst job

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I assume that's where Trxjw is since he's been AWOL since the speculation began last night.

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I think AV needs to hire his guys, although I'd strongly suggest holding Sully for defense.

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#NYR 1 person that filled out NYR coaching questionnaire? Ulf Samuelsson. Highly regarded w/in org, Could warrant consideration for asst job
Anyone but him. Literally anyone. Except Tocchet.

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Let the new voach hire his guys. When it fails you fire the crew.

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Anyone but him. Literally anyone. Except Tocchet.
Out of curiosity, why do you say this? I always thought Ulfie was an extremely cerebral player (and the second best agitator we've had in my lifetime, just behind Tik).

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06-15-2013, 09:13 PM
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I don't find it the least bit cute when a guy goes out of his way to end the careers of better players.

If a guy like that, with that kind of history had even tried something like that against a teammate of mine, I would have accepted the punishment for the necessary response. I want to see a guy like that coaching our team about as much as I want to swallow acid.

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I don't find it the least bit cute when a guy goes out of his way to end the careers of better players.

If a guy like that, with that kind of history had even tried something like that against a teammate of mine, I would have accepted the punishment for the necessary response. I want to see a guy like that coaching our team about as much as I want to swallow acid.
I dunno, I've never thought he was trying to end Neely's career. But I don't mean to take us OT.

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I don't find it the least bit cute when a guy goes out of his way to end the careers of better players.

If a guy like that, with that kind of history had even tried something like that against a teammate of mine, I would have accepted the punishment for the necessary response. I want to see a guy like that coaching our team about as much as I want to swallow acid.
let it go. he predominantly did all that dirty stuff not as a Ranger, he also payed the piper when Domi suckered him.

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Guy Boucher, please

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If Messier wants to coach--this might be a situation to start for him. If nothing else he could benefit the team potentially in special teams play and faceoffs--the pwp and faceoffs especially.

But even so it's usually best when the coach picks his own guys--as far as Sullivan--he might follow Tortorella wherever he goes.

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I really wanna see this coach questionnaire haha

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Samuelsson was an assistant with Gernander in Hartford.

Let the coach pick his assistants.

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let it go. he predominantly did all that dirty stuff not as a Ranger, he also payed the piper when Domi suckered him.
That's one of the things that always pissed me off about being a Ranger fan. It always seemed like dirty guys weren't dirty as a Ranger, but we got it the revenge for it. Even Domi didn't do notorious dirty stuff as a Ranger.

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I really wanna see this coach questionnaire haha
Let's get our MSG intern to go MI and get his hands on it. PM it around and we will all fill one out and send it in all titled "John Tortorella I/II/III/IV" etc.

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I don't find it the least bit cute when a guy goes out of his way to end the careers of better players.

If a guy like that, with that kind of history had even tried something like that against a teammate of mine, I would have accepted the punishment for the necessary response. I want to see a guy like that coaching our team about as much as I want to swallow acid.
Samuelsson took and he gave.

Here is the hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orQ-S7qw3pU

Its dirty and a suspendable hit, no doubt. But I don't know if there is all that more to it than that. Ulfie didn't exactly have 5 hits like that per year, he laid out a handful of them maybe over his career. There where many players in the league worse than him, but Ulfie was a European who didn't back down nor fight and took a ton of heat for it.

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I'd be open to Mess, but that might be awkward for AV, essentially grooming his replacement. Let AV bring in his own guys. We let Torts do it.

I hope Sully goes far, far away from this team.

I don't know how well a coach would take it if we say, yeah AV, we're going to hire you, but immediately dictate who else is behind your bench. He's going to have to keep Dineen (probably) and Benny Allaire (like this is even a debate), let him fill the other one or two spots as he pleases.

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I really wanna see this coach questionnaire haha
1. Can you beat up Larry Brooks at the bus stop?

a) Yes b) No c) Only if I have "golden gloves" Wade by my side.

2. Explain Carl Hagelin's play on the power play.

a) It's good b) Who's Carl Hagelin? c) Stinks d) Sick flow.

3. Would you ever get testy with Sam Rosen during a post-game interview?

a) No b) **** no, he's a living legend c) Are you out of your mind? Never.

4. How do you spell: "Qualm"

a) Q-u-a-h-m b) Are you serious? It's in the question c) I heard Trottier never made a spelling mistake

5. Can you teach defensemen how to take a one-timer?

a) Yes b) No

6. Marian Gaborik scores 40 goals as a RWer, what do you do next season?

a) Move him to LW b) Nothing, he just scored 40 goals c) How many shots did he block?

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Former Assistants w/Vigneault and current coaching jobs

Clement Jodoin - AC in Montreal
Dave King - none
Barry Smith - none
Mike Kelly - HC for St John Sea Dogs
Rick Bowness - AC in Tampa
Ryan Walter - none
Darryl Williams - video coach in Vancouver
Newell Brown - none

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Guy Boucher for PP coach

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Guy Boucher would be ideal.

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I'm echoing several others here Guy Boucher all the way.

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I'd be open to Mess, but that might be awkward for AV, essentially grooming his replacement. Let AV bring in his own guys. We let Torts do it.

I hope Sully goes far, far away from this team.

I don't know how well a coach would take it if we say, yeah AV, we're going to hire you, but immediately dictate who else is behind your bench. He's going to have to keep Dineen (probably) and Benny Allaire (like this is even a debate), let him fill the other one or two spots as he pleases.



1. Can you beat up Larry Brooks at the bus stop?

a) Yes b) No c) Only if I have "golden gloves" Wade by my side.

2. Explain Carl Hagelin's play on the power play.

a) It's good b) Who's Carl Hagelin? c) Stinks d) Sick flow.

3. Would you ever get testy with Sam Rosen during a post-game interview?

a) No b) **** no, he's a living legend c) Are you out of your mind? Never.

4. How do you spell: "Qualm"

a) Q-u-a-h-m b) Are you serious? It's in the question c) I heard Trottier never made a spelling mistake

5. Can you teach defensemen how to take a one-timer?

a) Yes b) No

6. Marian Gaborik scores 40 goals as a RWer, what do you do next season?

a) Move him to LW b) Nothing, he just scored 40 goals c) How many shots did he block?
1) A
2) C/D
3)B
4)C
5)A
6)C

AV should get to choose who he brings in... First losing streak for AV with Mess as an assistant and the crowd would be chanting for AV to be fired mid game

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bouch for pp coach would be clutch.. dunno if it'd happen though. i'd also keep sully with the defense if we don't have anybody coming with vigs (unlikely)

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Former Assistants w/Vigneault and current coaching jobs

Clement Jodoin - AC in Montreal
Dave King - none
Barry Smith - none
Mike Kelly - HC for St John Sea Dogs
Rick Bowness - AC in Tampa
Ryan Walter - none
Darryl Williams - video coach in Vancouver
Newell Brown - none
Dave King retired as an assistant coach in Phoenix and now works for the Coyotes in player development.

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