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06-17-2013, 08:41 PM
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I don't think you're getting the 5th overall pick for Coburn as the center pieces.
I don't think so either. I was just going off what other people were saying. Otherwise if we can get two great prospects, especially defensive prospects, then I would do it. That is assuming we trade into the 15-20 position. I'm usually not in favor of giving up proven talent for prospects, especially at a position of need, but to add to our chances of finding a true cornerstone defenseman I do it. And this seems like the type of draft to take that chance.

With that said, I don't think that happens. But the thought of walking away from the draft with Morrissey and Morin for example is just great to think about

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Yea. I know he is a key piece in minny. But it would be nice to have him here.

I would like to see on our 3rd line - if we don't keep/retain gags - a big wing who can play in a more d minded role but also chip in on the offence. Clutterbuck would be sweet but I don't feel as a 3rd liner he will/can produce O
I really like Clutterbuck but he's like a more talented Rinaldo. I also feel like he's one of those guys who cost more to his team than he's actually worth.

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06-17-2013, 08:49 PM
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''The interesting thing is that LA's Jonathan Bernier today changed agents and is now under CAA - Brisson's agency. You have to think Bernier did that thinking Brisson would have a better shot at getting him to the Flyers since he has Streit, Briere, Claude Giroux and Max Talbot there.'' -----Tim Panaccio

I know 99% of you dont like him....but just for the fact of changing for Pat Brisson today, do you think there's something there...

Read and a 2nd 2014...I know we overpay a bit, but Ill take the risk...u cant be wrong on goalies 100% of the time...now its maybe it...him and mason for the Jennings Trophy !!! lol

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I really like Clutterbuck but he's like a more talented Rinaldo. I also feel like he's one of those guys who cost more to his team than he's actually worth.
I can see that comparison jump of player.

He is a wrecking ball out there. Haha.

We would kill teams with him, rinaldo and schenn on the ice.

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I really like Clutterbuck but he's like a more talented Rinaldo. I also feel like he's one of those guys who cost more to his team than he's actually worth.
At the 1.4 cap hit he had I think he was a steal. But his value will likely go down depending on his next contract. But on his last contract he was well worth it IMO

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06-17-2013, 08:51 PM
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''The interesting thing is that LA's Jonathan Bernier today changed agents and is now under CAA - Brisson's agency. You have to think Bernier did that thinking Brisson would have a better shot at getting him to the Flyers since he has Streit, Briere, Claude Giroux and Max Talbot there.'' -----Tim Panaccio

I know 99% of you dont like him....but just for the fact of changing for Pat Brisson today, do you think there's something there...

Read and a 2nd 2014...I know we overpay a bit, but Ill take the risk...u cant be wrong on goalies 100% of the time...now its maybe it...him and mason for the Jennings Trophy !!! lol
Jennings leads to..... Stanley.

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06-17-2013, 08:58 PM
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At the 1.4 cap hit he had I think he was a steal. But his value will likely go down depending on his next contract. But on his last contract he was well worth it IMO
Oh yeah, I was talking from a trade standpoint not contract wise. I can't see him getting anymore than $1M raise though.

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Oh yeah, I was talking from a trade standpoint not contract wise. I can't see him getting anymore than $1M raise though.
Oh, I see. Yea I wouldn't trade for him either. And that includes and offer sheet unless it was for a third or something like that

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06-17-2013, 09:18 PM
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Unless he straight comes out and says he's leaving or it's him for giroux (example) Clutterbuck won't be traded

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I'm on the don't trade Read for Bernier team. Offer sheet him or nothing.

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''The interesting thing is that LA's Jonathan Bernier today changed agents and is now under CAA - Brisson's agency. You have to think Bernier did that thinking Brisson would have a better shot at getting him to the Flyers since he has Streit, Briere, Claude Giroux and Max Talbot there.'' -----Tim Panaccio

I know 99% of you dont like him....but just for the fact of changing for Pat Brisson today, do you think there's something there...

Read and a 2nd 2014...I know we overpay a bit, but Ill take the risk...u cant be wrong on goalies 100% of the time...now its maybe it...him and mason for the Jennings Trophy !!! lol
Any other notable NHL'ers that Brisson represents?

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06-17-2013, 10:25 PM
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Any other notable NHL'ers that Brisson represents?
Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Claude Giroux, Daniel & Henrik Sedin, Jonathan Towes, Patrick Kane, Anze Kopitar, and John Tavaras.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brisson

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06-17-2013, 11:17 PM
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Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Claude Giroux, Daniel & Henrik Sedin, Jonathan Towes, Patrick Kane, Anze Kopitar, and John Tavaras.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brisson
Brisson must be loaded

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06-17-2013, 11:42 PM
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Brisson must be loaded
Maybe we should send him to Dry Island......

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I don't think so either. I was just going off what other people were saying. Otherwise if we can get two great prospects, especially defensive prospects, then I would do it. That is assuming we trade into the 15-20 position. I'm usually not in favor of giving up proven talent for prospects, especially at a position of need, but to add to our chances of finding a true cornerstone defenseman I do it. And this seems like the type of draft to take that chance.

With that said, I don't think that happens. But the thought of walking away from the draft with Morrissey and Morin for example is just great to think about
I don't see anyway the Flyers will walk away from this draft with 2 top 20 picks (and certainly not 2 in the top 11). This team is in win-now mode and in order to add an additional high pick they'll have to give up an NHL asset (since their isn't much in the pipeline). If they move up, #11 will be included. It still wouldn't shock me if #11 is traded before the draft for an NHL piece. I don't think Homer is calling it a day after Streit.

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06-18-2013, 04:28 AM
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I think we shoulda traded for sergi gonchars rights as well and signed him instead of Dallas he would fill our needs perfectly imo

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06-18-2013, 09:06 AM
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Doubt we offer sheet bernier, Kings and Flyers are best friends, that would be a really unfriendly thing to do.

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06-18-2013, 10:37 AM
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Doubt we offer sheet bernier, Kings and Flyers are best friends, that would be a really unfriendly thing to do.
Unfriendly, yes, but sometimes you gotta be evil .

Better to give them a 2nd rounder for Bernier than Read

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Unfriendly, yes, but sometimes you gotta be evil .

Better to give them a 2nd rounder for Bernier than Read
Someone said they would match anything that doesn't get them at least a first and third. Not sure if that is true or where they heard it from, but I think if the compensation is a second, they'd match.

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06-18-2013, 11:13 AM
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I don't think he even gets to RFA. He's going to be traded before anybody can offer him anything

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I don't think he even gets to RFA. He's going to be traded before anybody can offer him anything
Yup, I don't think he makes it past the draft.

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06-18-2013, 11:34 AM
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If they want to maximize their return for Bernier, they'll trade him by the draft

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Keep hearing #Kings Bernier will b traded sooner than later. With poss' Breeze buyout and Leiweke LA link, #Leafs #Flyers front-runners

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Please let this happen. It would be our best move in awhile.

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Sweet. I know he's not 100% tested in the NHL, but it would be very, very exciting.

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