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Where would you rank the Toronto Maple Leafs offense?

View Poll Results: Where would you rank the Toronto Maple Leafs offense?
1-3 5 5.10%
4-6 19 19.39%
7-10 39 39.80%
11-15 27 27.55%
Bottom 15 8 8.16%
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06-18-2013, 12:34 PM
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Where would you rank the Toronto Maple Leafs offense?

Curious as to what the board thinks. They finished 6th in GF this year without their 2nd best forward for much of the season, and they seem to be the only team that could score on the Bruins this postseason.

For arguments sake let's assume we're evaluating the teams as they are now, so don't speculate about any free agent signings of anything.

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06-18-2013, 12:35 PM
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I wish this was the wording used in the now bashfest going on in the Cup forums.

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06-18-2013, 12:39 PM
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6th best.

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06-18-2013, 12:40 PM
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Personally I'd go with the 4-6 range. I think that the Penguins and Blackhawks definitely have a better offense, and then there are a few debatable teams like the Capitals, Flyers or Bruins.

I'm not just considering this year's results, I'm also just looking at rosters as a whole and how they could perform (hence why I hold the Flyers in high regard).

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06-18-2013, 01:02 PM
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Listen. This was a short season. I don't want to use the word asterisk, but you sort of have to. Sort of.

IN FACT, I use it to describe the Canadiens' season. They were one of the best in GF as well. Are they a top 10 scoring team in the NHL? IMO no. They also aren't Division Winners either. They got lucky.

So with regards to the Leafs, you're closer to 11-15. Maybe you crack the top 10 if all the stars align and you have barely any injuries again, etc. But to be 6th in GF over a whole 82-game season is hard.

Trust me, as a Habs fan, I know this all too well...

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06-18-2013, 01:05 PM
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They lack center depth to be an elite offensive group putting them in the 7-10 group.

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06-18-2013, 01:07 PM
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Listen. This was a short season. I don't want to use the word asterisk, but you sort of have to. Sort of.

IN FACT, I use it to describe the Canadiens' season. They were one of the best in GF as well. Are they a top 10 scoring team in the NHL? IMO no. They also aren't Division Winners either. They got lucky.

So with regards to the Leafs, you're closer to 11-15. Maybe you crack the top 10 if all the stars align and you have barely any injuries again, etc. But to be 6th in GF over a whole 82-game season is hard.

Trust me, as a Habs fan, I know this all too well...
Leafs were 6th this year and 10th last year over 82 games, they got rid of Connolly and Lombardi and replaced them with JvR and Kadri. I'd say 7-10 is more accurate.

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06-18-2013, 01:08 PM
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Listen. This was a short season. I don't want to use the word asterisk, but you sort of have to. Sort of.

IN FACT, I use it to describe the Canadiens' season. They were one of the best in GF as well. Are they a top 10 scoring team in the NHL? IMO no. They also aren't Division Winners either. They got lucky.

So with regards to the Leafs, you're closer to 11-15. Maybe you crack the top 10 if all the stars align and you have barely any injuries again, etc. But to be 6th in GF over a whole 82-game season is hard.

Trust me, as a Habs fan, I know this all too well...
They were 10th in GF in 2011-12 without JVR, and prior to Kadri and Franson breaking out offensively.

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06-18-2013, 01:13 PM
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Somewhere from 5-10.

Another season from guys like Kadri and JVR will make it more clear.

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Listen. This was a short season. I don't want to use the word asterisk, but you sort of have to. Sort of.

IN FACT, I use it to describe the Canadiens' season. They were one of the best in GF as well. Are they a top 10 scoring team in the NHL? IMO no. They also aren't Division Winners either. They got lucky.

So with regards to the Leafs, you're closer to 11-15. Maybe you crack the top 10 if all the stars align and you have barely any injuries again, etc. But to be 6th in GF over a whole 82-game season is hard.

Trust me, as a Habs fan, I know this all too well...
Leafs finished 10th in GF in 2011-2012. Only thing the Leafs have done since is add JVR and Kadri to the mix.

Nice try

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Listen. This was a short season. I don't want to use the word asterisk, but you sort of have to. Sort of.

IN FACT, I use it to describe the Canadiens' season. They were one of the best in GF as well. Are they a top 10 scoring team in the NHL? IMO no. They also aren't Division Winners either. They got lucky.

So with regards to the Leafs, you're closer to 11-15. Maybe you crack the top 10 if all the stars align and you have barely any injuries again, etc. But to be 6th in GF over a whole 82-game season is hard.

Trust me, as a Habs fan, I know this all too well...
29 other teams also played 48 games, not just Toronto. It doesn't matter.

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06-18-2013, 01:18 PM
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Lots of teams were missing their most important forward, it's not a good excuse.

Overall they're alright to good (5-10 range), but they could be even better if they improve their defence and faceoffs.

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06-18-2013, 01:28 PM
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Leafs were 6th this year and 10th last year over 82 games, they got rid of Connolly and Lombardi and replaced them with JvR and Kadri. I'd say 7-10 is more accurate.
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They were 10th in GF in 2011-12 without JVR, and prior to Kadri and Franson breaking out offensively.
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Leafs finished 10th in GF in 2011-2012. Only thing the Leafs have done since is add JVR and Kadri to the mix.

Nice try
NVM. 7-10 it is!

PS I love Kessel, Kadri, and Lupul. Also like Bozak, Grabo, JVR. In spite of what others might think, I'm actually happy that the TML had a playoff team this year.

Now I can actually have competent discussion with Leafs fans about their team, instead of the old "Habs suck" discussions I normally get (btw, this isn't on HF, this is in real life. Live in Toronto so I see it all the time.)

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29 other teams also played 48 games, not just Toronto. It doesn't matter.
I alluded to this in my OP. Thanks. It works both ways btw. The Devils, Flyers and other teams were bad over 48, doesn't mean they'll be bad over 82...

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Leafs probably have one of the best wingers depth in the league but their center position is bottom 15, so i'd probably say somewhere around 4-8.

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Fairly strong winger depth but very, very weak down the middle. 7-10

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7-10

If kadri and JVR repeat next year, then 4-6

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If kadri and JVR repeat next year, then 4-6
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Curious as to what the board thinks. They finished 6th in GF this year without their 2nd best forward for much of the season, and they seem to be the only team that could score on the Bruins this postseason.

For arguments sake let's assume we're evaluating the teams as they are now, so don't speculate about any free agent signings of anything.
I would put them at 7-10.

As far as being the only team to be able to score against Boston, this Boston team is playing quite a bit better now than when they played the Leafs, it is like night and day.

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Toronto is one of the teams that benefited from a short 48 game season

They usually begin to tank after Game 60 or so in a regular 82 game season
No reason why they wouldn't have tanked this season as well


Philly and New Jersey would of knocked out Toronto and the Islanders if they played a full year

So their offense would of dried up

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"Goals for" doesn't mean a damn thing when you don't play any western conference games to bring that number down to earth.

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Toronto is one of the teams that benefited from a short 48 game season

They usually begin to tank after Game 60 or so in a regular 82 game season
No reason why they wouldn't have tanked this season as well


Philly and New Jersey would of knocked out Toronto and the Islanders if they played a full year

So their offense would of dried up
I love the crappy arguments people use, it's so entertaining. Last year, Leafs were 10th best over 82 games (Kessel and Lupul PPG players) - HFboards...they were lucky, they won't be as productive with Carlyle as coach

This year Leafs were 6th best over 48 games (Kessel and Lupul PPG players) - HFboards...they were lucky, it was a shortened season, they won't be productive when its over 82 games

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